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#1 sparky923

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 09:08 PM

What are my options for a barrel an idiot cut a slot in to with a Dremel?
Replacement barrel?
MIG or TIG the slot?

#2 Chevyman097

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 09:12 PM

Make the idiot replace it?


Oh or like I do when all else fails, some jb weld and duct tape! jk jk I had to.

Edited by chevyman097, 08 January 2010 - 09:12 PM.




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Posted 08 January 2010 - 10:14 PM

Well depending on how far back the slot is you could cut the barrel behind where slot is and rethread it and permanently attach a flash hider/brake to make your 18" barrel OR if you live in a state like I do that allows it, you tell the wife you have no choice but to spend $200 to get your tax stamp and you have a new SBS. PROBLEM SOLVED!! :victory:
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 05:29 PM

I'm going to SBS my S-12

If you are interested (and there is enough usable barrel for an 8" SBS) I'll trade you my 19" factory threaded barrel.

It has already had the ports opened up and beveled.

Just handle the shipping cost both ways and I'll call it a fair trade.
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#5 sparky923

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 10:01 PM

I'm going to SBS my S-12

If you are interested (and there is enough usable barrel for an 8" SBS) I'll trade you my 19" factory threaded barrel.

It has already had the ports opened up and beveled.

Just handle the shipping cost both ways and I'll call it a fair trade.




There's enough barrel left. Now I just need to find the link on how to pull it.
Thank you.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 03:26 PM

I also saw that someone was making us made S12 barrels a while back, I forget who...

I think they were rifled though?

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 11:15 PM

I also saw that someone was making us made S12 barrels a while back, I forget who...

I think they were rifled though?


Last year there was a U.S. based company (who used to be a business member here) who had said they would be making regular smoothbore Saiga 12 barrels at some point, but they still haven't started making them yet.

Back last October Tony Rumore of Tromix said he would try making a rifled Saiga 12 barrel soon. Knowing how backlogged he is though, I doubt he has had time to do it yet.

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 11:43 PM

Well, the GB pressed right off but now I have to figure out how to press the barrel out.
Searching...........

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 11:59 PM

Well, the GB pressed right off but now I have to figure out how to press the barrel out.
Searching...........


Check a long time back Cobra posted a how to.
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DO YOUR OWN CONVERSION!

Look here for how: http://forum.saiga-1...showtopic=40886

#10 sparky923

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 07:30 PM

Remove the silver-soldered barrel extension.Punched out the pins. Made a chamber insert out of what was here. Welded up a tool to press out the barrel from a completed frame(always wanted to). Pressed out the barrel.
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Where tape starts.
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End of barrel.
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Barrel Jigs to press out barrel.
A: 12g shell base
B: Nickel spacer
C: washer profiled w/ dremel
D: 5/8 socket
E: barstock, 3/8 thick or so
F: 7/8 bolt by 12" long or so
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A thru D bolt together and fit into the chamber and support it during pressing
E,F form a tool to transfer pressure to the chamber jig and push out the barrel.

This is how they work together.
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Easy enough once inspiration came. Now to figure out getting it back in.

Edited by sparky923, 28 March 2010 - 09:13 PM.


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Posted 04 April 2010 - 11:45 AM

Remove the silver-soldered barrel extension.Punched out the pins. Made a chamber insert out of what was here. Welded up a tool to press out the barrel from a completed frame(always wanted to). Pressed out the barrel.


Where tape starts.


End of barrel.


Barrel Jigs to press out barrel.
A: 12g shell base
B: Nickel spacer
C: washer profiled w/ dremel
D: 5/8 socket
E: barstock, 3/8 thick or so
F: 7/8 bolt by 12" long or so


A thru D bolt together and fit into the chamber and support it during pressing
E,F form a tool to transfer pressure to the chamber jig and push out the barrel.

This is how they work together.
Posted Image
Easy enough once inspiration came. Now to figure out getting it back in.



What kind of foldiing stock do you have?

#12 sparky923

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 11:50 AM


Punched out the pins. Made a chamber insert out of what was here. Welded up a tool to press out the barrel from a completed frame(always wanted to). Pressed out the barrel.Remove the silver-soldered barrel extension.


Where tape starts.


End of barrel.


Barrel Jigs to press out barrel.
A: 12g shell base
B: Nickel spacer
C: washer profiled w/ dremel
D: 5/8 socket
E: barstock, 3/8 thick or so
F: 7/8 bolt by 12" long or so


A thru D bolt together and fit into the chamber and support it during pressing
E,F form a tool to transfer pressure to the chamber jig and push out the barrel.

This is how they work together.
Posted Image
Easy enough once inspiration came. Now to figure out getting it back in.



What kind of foldiing stock do you have?

AK100 series that somebody did a sorry job of riveting in.

Edited by sparky923, 06 April 2010 - 11:48 PM.


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Posted 04 April 2010 - 12:03 PM

I'm selling/trading a die to thread the barrel in the FS/T section..
http://forum.saiga-1...l=&fromsearch=1

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 07:52 AM

you might want to edit that and put "removed barrel extension" AFTER the part where you removed the barrel
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#15 sparky923

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 11:46 PM

you might want to edit that and put "removed barrel extension" AFTER the part where you removed the barrel

Oops. Didn't see that til you mentioned it. I do know better than to do anything with such a barrel BEFORE pulling it. I don't know how to edit, though.

you might want to edit that and put "removed barrel extension" AFTER the part where you removed the barrel

Oops. Didn't see that til you mentioned it. I do know better than to do anything with such a barrel BEFORE pulling it. I don't know how to edit, though.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 12:12 AM

All better now. Just need to range test and refinish.

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Edited by sparky923, 13 June 2012 - 12:13 AM.


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Posted 16 June 2012 - 02:39 PM

Have enlarged the three ports, added two more, and it still only goes bang ONCE.
Still researching.

#18 sparky923

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:22 AM

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 05:49 PM

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:12 PM

tell me aboot te silver soldered barrel extension... why did that come apart?
and do you have pics of that better?
thanks for all he pics and vids btw, i hate endless pages of text where a pic shooulda been

#21 sparky923

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 10:02 PM

tell me aboot te silver soldered barrel extension... why did that come apart? It looked like it belonged on a raygun. Had to go.
and do you have pics of that better? Nope. Sorry.
thanks for all he pics and vids btw, i hate endless pages of text where a pic shooulda been



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Posted 20 October 2012 - 06:25 PM

no, the chamber end. sorry, maybe mono block or something is the correct phraseology?

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 08:24 PM

no, the chamber end. sorry, maybe mono block or something is the correct phraseology?


Pardon?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:06 PM

i think a mono block refers to a barrel extension that is soldered over the straight barrel... its so ya dont have to do complicated machining on a long piece o work, and prob so ya dont have scrap a barrel if ya screw up...

the way it was explained to me, is that it has the bolt lockup/extractor cut into it and then slides over the barrel....

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 02:02 AM

Sorry everyone, I see this thread is dated & this is my first post; Having said that I'll try to be a contributing member of this forum.


I was wondering about the ¿gas tube mounted rail? that runs from the rear sight to the front bead on OPs s12 (picture posted on 29 September 2012 - 05:53 PM). I've seen them in a few pictures but never could find out exactly what it's called or a source to obtain one. Any info would be much appreciated.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 08:50 PM

Sorry everyone, I see this thread is dated & this is my first post; Having said that I'll try to be a contributing member of this forum.


I was wondering about the ¿gas tube mounted rail? that runs from the rear sight to the front bead on OPs s12 (picture posted on 29 September 2012 - 05:53 PM). I've seen them in a few pictures but never could find out exactly what it's called or a source to obtain one. Any info would be much appreciated.





That's just the factory original sight.
Do you mean an ultimak rail?
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#27 Patrick Swayze

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 04:40 PM

Thanks for the input Sparky923, beautiful machine you have there Posted Image

but no, ultimaks are nice but I suppose I'm referring to the factory sight add-on. Havent seen any for sale or even on a saiga at a gunshow or otherwise.
I'd drop the $$$ for one, but short of calling russia I can't find a source.

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#28 Patrick Swayze

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:57 PM

Earlier imports had vent rib sights apparently. It seems a lot of people went through the trouble to remove them, so shouldn't be too hard to dig one up in classifieds.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 03:54 PM

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Just to add. CNC Warrior appears to have the correct die in stock.



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Posted 06 April 2013 - 05:50 PM

What length barrel did you end up with sparky? And did you get it running good and what work to the ports did it take?




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