How far should the shrould be cut back?

[CPE1704TKS 24]

Thinking about threading my X39, but in reading through the posts on threading, I did not find any discussion of whether to cut it flush with the FSB or at some intermediate point.

 

Options? Trade-offs?

 

TIA

[gtnichols 51]

Cut it flush.

You need as much length to thread as possible.

[Rhodes1968 1,638]

A dremel makes that job easy, makes a lot of work on rifles easier.

[n102788 6]

I went to home depot and got the mini copper pipe cutter and that did the job perfectly it only cost like $7.

[CPE1704TKS 24]

I went to home depot and got the mini copper pipe cutter and that did the job perfectly it only cost like $7.

 

As I understand it, a pipe cutter will not cut the shroud flush with the FSB. That leaves you with roughly half an inch of shroud still in place.

[SaigaScott 6]

I went to home depot and got the mini copper pipe cutter and that did the job perfectly it only cost like $7.

 

As I understand it, a pipe cutter will not cut the shroud flush with the FSB. That leaves you with roughly half an inch of shroud still in place.

correct, but depending on what brake/compensator you plan on installing might not require the entire shrouded area, so a pipe cutter would be adequate depending on what you plan on installing.

 

Also remember that the Saigas (besides .308) have a longer barrel profile than normal AK's, and by that I mean the shrouded area/barrel past the FSB.

[into_the_knight 22]

Get your brake or muzzle device you want first.

 

Measure how far the threads go inside the muzzle device.

 

Then cut your shroud to accomodate this. AFAIK, the threading die will thread right up to the edge of the shroud.

 

Then you can index with plumbing (?) tape.

 

DO NOT cut the shroud all the way to the FSB!

 

In the thread cutting tutorial, the poster said not to do that because your threaded portion will be way too long.

[Jigen 8]

Get your brake or muzzle device you want first.

 

Measure how far the threads go inside the muzzle device.

 

Then cut your shroud to accomodate this. AFAIK, the threading die will thread right up to the edge of the shroud.

 

Then you can index with plumbing (?) tape.

 

DO NOT cut the shroud all the way to the FSB!

 

In the thread cutting tutorial, the poster said not to do that because your threaded portion will be way too long.

 

At least unless you buy the brake from Dinzag that has the threads that go one inch deep.

[quig 2]

Damn it. I missed this discussion, or over read it. I was lucky enough to have threads already done, but I was cutting it almost flush, but stopped when I didn't see much progress. I ended up movin forward a 1/4 inch and it easily came off. I used a dremel and now have an unsightly gouge.

 

I'll post pics later.

[quig 2]

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af35/lafdquig/0d22a971.jpg

 

I know, a damn hack job. Any suggestions?

Edited January 20, 2010 by quig

[paprotective 362]

Maybe some quick steel to fill the gap/gash.

 

Where you get the threader?? Was it hard to line up and do??

[quig 2]

 

 

Where you get the threader?? Was it hard to line up and do??

 

In reference to the thread about the factory threaded models, mine was produced in 2/09. This is why I gave it a shot. I was pleased to see I did, in fact, have the threads when I took off the shroud. Thanks for the suggestion, I will defiently be looking into the quick-fill.

[CPE1704TKS 24]

Could I get some education here? How do you determine the manufacturing date?

[into_the_knight 22]

Could I get some education here? How do you determine the manufacturing date?

I think it is in your manual. The QA person at Izhmazh wrote down information in there like how accurate the rifle was when they testfired it.

[into_the_knight 22]

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af35/lafdquig/0d22a971.jpg

 

I know, a damn hack job. Any suggestions?

 

Oh wow dude. I feel for you.

 

My suggestion would be to remove the FSB and see if you can replace it. Besides if you replace it, the new FSB will have a retainer on the bottom for a cleaning rod.

[quig 2]

Could I get some education here? How do you determine the manufacturing date?

 

There are two booklets when I got the rifle. One was just a generic manual. The second was a certificate-like book with official stamps and dated. That is where I got the suspected manufactured date. I am not sure if all Saiga's come this way.

[jrmock 7]

I cut my shroud all the way off (flush with the front sight block). I then ordered dinzag's threading kit and one of his 14x1 LH muzzle nuts. I threaded the muzzle nut on first and then put my brake on. When I got the brake in the right spot I tightened the muzzle nut into the brake to clock it. Works great.

 

http://www.dinzagarms.com/brakes_hiders/brakes_hiders.html

 

For some reason dinzag's muzzle nuts are unavailable right now.

 

jrmock

[Killshot44 0]

Quig is talking about a barrel that came already threaded by the factory. Many of the 2009 7.62s have been found to have threads under a metal shroud.

 

If you have a factory threaded barrel, do NOT cut flush with the FSB......

Edited January 21, 2010 by Killshot44

[imarangemaster 315]

Try JB Weld for the gash. Amazing stuff. Let it get almost hard and rough trim it with a file. After hard, use fine file and emery paper, then paint with Rustoleum Bar B-Q paint. It is a close match. I refinished the entire Saiga with it and it is tough and looks great.

Edited January 21, 2010 by imarangemaster

[quig 2]

Try JB Weld for the gash. Amazing stuff. Let it get almost hard and rough trim it with a file. After hard, use fine file and emery paper, then paint with Rustoleum Bar B-Q paint. It is a close match. I refinished the entire Saiga with it and it is tough and looks great.

 

Thanks, I will report back when repaired.

[quig 2]

Well, here is a pic after a "patch and paint" with the muzzle brake on. Not perfect, but it will do for now. Thanks for the advice.

[Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393]

Good job. I second the JB Weld, it is very durable and will make a good hold for you.

[ChileRelleno 7,071]

Another outstanding Graduate from 'Bubba's School of Gunsmithing'

[quig 2]