tonster67 0 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 New to the Saiga club and I have only shot 40 or 50 rounds thru so far. The bolt hold open is not sticking out anymore and it feels like NO spring is attached. To say I am 'mechanically challenged" would be a huge understatement and I am afraid I cannot fix it myself. I keep looking at it but not sure I should touch it.... I'm in Northern Indiana 1/2 way between Chicago and Toledo. Any saiga gunsmiths close? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobbyshooter 59 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 New to the Saiga club and I have only shot 40 or 50 rounds thru so far. The bolt hold open is not sticking out anymore and it feels like NO spring is attached. To say I am 'mechanically challenged" would be a huge understatement and I am afraid I cannot fix it myself. I keep looking at it but not sure I should touch it.... I'm in Northern Indiana 1/2 way between Chicago and Toledo. Any saiga gunsmiths close? Your BHO spring leg fell off the return bend of the lever. You can pick it up and place it back on the lever with a dental pick or with some fine tweezers. Just take the cover off, remove the bolt & carrier, then drop the hammer forward. That should give you access to view the BHO assembly pretty good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 (edited) If you'r converted, this is how it's done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yek8AfLlu-s (if other methods don't work) Also, locking hemostats may work for you to do it without disassembly. Edited January 29, 2010 by Paulyski 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobRez 1,895 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 i used a dental tool to guide the spring backonto it's proper location. It is not complicated, but was frustrating for me. But I fixed it, so give it a fwe(lots)of tries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vbrtrmn 167 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 i used a dental tool to guide the spring backonto it's proper location. It is not complicated, but was frustrating for me. But I fixed it, so give it a fwe(lots)of tries. Frustrating is RIGHT on! I wound up bending the tip of my dental pick into more of a hook. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonster67 0 Posted January 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Like I said I am not at all mechanical. I tend to get frustrated and break things. Will this happen again and if so is there a permanent fix? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonster67 0 Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Been playing with for over an hour. Gonna take a break now before it gets thrown thru a wall. Sure wish I had a dental pick. Paperclips, tweezers etc.. not working Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobRez 1,895 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Don't worry, I broke 2 dental tools doing it. It is tough to get behind the BHO latch to sort of "scoop up"the spring end with the curved end of a dental tool, while pulling the BHO away from the receiver side wall to get past the hook on the BHO, then pushing the BHO in and down while timing the release of the spring end from the dental tool so that it rests on top of that hook on the BHO. My first session trying to fix mine was 2 1/2 hours! I got so frustrated I had to wait 10 days before another 1 1/2 hours finally resulting in victory! Even after I figured it out I "almost had it!" lots of times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonster67 0 Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Thanks for the encouragement..but I am not that patient. Will have to walk away for now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobRez 1,895 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Seems you are familiar with one of my favorite lines from Mad Max...."Just walk away......." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobbyshooter 59 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) Like I said I am not at all mechanical. I tend to get frustrated and break things. Will this happen again and if so is there a permanent fix? Yes it can happen again. The best fix I've found is to take a small jewelers file and create a notch for the spring leg to call home. But that would most likely involve removing the safety lever and positioning the BHO lever straight up to get the file at it. Sorry to hear you're having trouble with it. I just flicked that spring leg off my '08 S12 and pulled it right back up into place in under 2 minutes. I have a fine tools for such work though. That's probably what you need to do is get a pick set and lots of small tweezers. My favorite tweezers are the curved tip stainless fine tip from techni-tool. 352TW011 Edited January 30, 2010 by hobbyshooter 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonster67 0 Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Thanks. I will order a set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonster67 0 Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Got it on. Only 3 hours or so of hell. Now to figure out how to put this thing back together. As I said earlier...I'm really not mechanical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 (edited) you didn't take the trigger group out to notch it? because, you really didn't need to do that at all. all you had to do was move the BHO plate away from the receiver, and rotate it up, notch it, and just push it back into place, then pick up the leg of spring and put it in place. Edited January 31, 2010 by Matthew Hopkins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gkcf 8 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I'm pretty sure all he was trying to do was get the spring leg back onto the lever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonster67 0 Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Yup. Took out spring and dust cover etc... didn't touch trigger or hammer. Still need to put back together though and I will need to find a few pictures because I'm not sure how it went together. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 It happened to me a couple of times, I bent the crook of the spring a little more so it hooks on better and it has not happened since. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 (edited) Like I said I am not at all mechanical. I tend to get frustrated and break things. Will this happen again and if so is there a permanent fix? Yes it can happen again. The best fix I've found is to take a small jewelers file and create a notch for the spring leg to call home. But that would most likely involve removing the safety lever and positioning the BHO lever straight up to get the file at it. +1 I did the same thing "just in case" for reliability. Except I just tapped the area with a dremmel cutoff wheel. I had the slip off issues... But while installing the FCG. the notch makes all the difference in the world to avoid the frustration. The major converters should do this to their guns too, as it increases reliability. Shit. everyone should IMHO. Edited January 31, 2010 by Paulyski Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.