JK-47 33 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Looking to see if any 20" barrel saigas in .223 came in lately or if it's all been 16" rifles? Also, are they all dimpled receivers with the punched gas blocks and front sights? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
555JM 10 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Wish I'd had that link a few weeks ago. 20" makes sense in .223. Helps the bullet get up to speed and speed is about all the .223 has going for it. Short barrels neuter the .223 Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
55645 1 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Wish I'd had that link a few weeks ago. 20" makes sense in .223. Helps the bullet get up to speed and speed is about all the .223 has going for it. Short barrels neuter the .223 Bob you can always get another one to keep ur 16in happy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 (edited) Actually, the 55 Grain M193 still does pretty well from a 16" barrel. If I recall right, it only drops from 3250 FPS in a 20" to 3100 FPS in a 16" barrel. FMJ M193 will yaw and fragment reliably down to 2600 or 2700 FPS depending on maker. Wolf HPs blow up down to about 2300-2400 from what I have heard. The 62 grain M855 drops more from a short barrel than the 55 grainer. Here is a link: http://www.razoreye.net/mirror/ammo-oracle/AR15_com_Ammo_Oracle_Mirror.htm#velocity Edited January 31, 2010 by imarangemaster Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JK-47 33 Posted February 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 ? ah so... Any awnsers? anyone seen an '09 .223 with 20" barrel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
55645 1 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 ? ah so... Any awnsers? anyone seen an '09 .223 with 20" barrel? posted a link on here for 1 but guess it was removed, I just pm u where to get one hope that helps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alexc.s. 25 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 When I ordered my 16" they asked if I wanted one of the 20" models they had. I was going for a carbine at the time so I passed, but they were are 09s, or so they say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JK-47 33 Posted February 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 (edited) Just to follow up, I was able to find a 20" 2009' model saiga in .223. It's has dimples, and no punches or divots in the front sight block and gas block. it does not appear to be a heavier style barrel than the 16" carbines. Edited February 24, 2010 by JK-47 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NMNSX 0 Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Im not sure what year this is (recently purchased used) but no dimples........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thegoaty 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 i just purchase my 20" from armsofamerica and it has the dimpled reciever and got it for a smokn deal too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
centexasman 0 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 I just purchased a 20" .223 This Month at the San Antonio gun show, without dimples, for $309.00 I took it and my 7.62 sagia to the range today. They both shot great. I was really pleased with them. I believe I will purchased two more in the .223 at the next gun show. I guess I better stock up before the prices start to shoot up on them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave43 0 Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Are you guys referring to the Saiga M? Itsn't the 223 M closer to 22 inches? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buckmeister 11 Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 I just purchased a 20" .223 This Month at the San Antonio gun show, without dimples, for $309.00 I took it and my 7.62 sagia to the range today. They both shot great. I was really pleased with them. I believe I will purchased two more in the .223 at the next gun show. I guess I better stock up before the prices start to shoot up on them. Which gunshow? I am in SA and looking for a 20". buckmeister Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BKLYN_C 14 Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Got mine 2 weeks ago. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=53884 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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