ergceo 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I am a Saiga noob but not an AK noob as I own both a WASR and a PolyTech both in x39. I am curious to know the diffs between the S308 and the S308 V21. The 21 looks to have the receiver cut off at an angle but the conversion is already done. If I am wanting a good guerilla sniper / hunter, what would you recommend as the rifle to start with as my foundation? Also, is it safe to assume that the Saiga's in 308 and the 12ga shotguns are as reliable as my AK rifles in x39? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 The Ver21 is sweet. I highly recommend it, and yes it is already converted. I think they spend a little more time at the factory on their nicer exports. It will need some US parts added if you want to use more than 10 round mags, trigger group, gas piston, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ergceo 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Can you get after market butt stocks to fit the receiver on the v21? Thx. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 As far as I know, there are no other butt stocks that will fit. there are some people that have modded stocks to fit the angled receiver, and some have welded peices onto the receiver to fit regular AK stocks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Can you get after market butt stocks to fit the receiver on the v21? Thx. I recall reading that, because v21 is basically a Vepr knock-off, you can use Vepr stocks with some minor fitting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JulianH 4 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 The Choate Dragunov style stock will fit, anything for a MAK-90 will fit, or you can get an ACE style internal receiver block and then you can use any number of different stocks. That's probably the one downside to the v21, but the factory stock is pretty nice already... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ergceo 0 Posted February 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Ok, so why not get the v21, which is already converted, add the Choate Dragunov stock and forearm with rail underneath instead of getting the S308 and paying to have it converted? I can buy the v21 for approx $100 over the S308. The only other expense I would be out to get the Saiganov look is for furniture, muzzle hardware, gas piston and FCG. Thoughts? I am just trying to build this for as little as possible. Thanks again for the assistance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 (edited) Deleted Edited February 4, 2010 by SpetsnazGRU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volkov 318 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Also, is it safe to assume that the Saiga's in 308 and the 12ga shotguns are as reliable as my AK rifles in x39? yes, although sometimes the shotguns take some tweaking (polishing, boring out the gas block a bit) before they get there.. They have the potential to be every bit as reliable as any AK, but some need a litle work- it's all easy to do though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Do it! You can offset the cost by selling me your take-off wood furniture if you decide you don't want it. Ok, so why not get the v21, which is already converted, add the Choate Dragunov stock and forearm with rail underneath instead of getting the S308 and paying to have it converted? I can buy the v21 for approx $100 over the S308. The only other expense I would be out to get the Saiganov look is for furniture, muzzle hardware, gas piston and FCG. Thoughts? I am just trying to build this for as little as possible. Thanks again for the assistance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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