mollysman420 19 Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 20" Barrel 7.62x54R PSL Magpul UBR Bulgy. Front sight block and flash hider Houge grip Next is an adj. gas block for the 203gr cannon balls Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffian72 548 Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Good looking set up. Don't see many upgrades from the original configuration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mollysman420 19 Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) Thanks I had to make it match my Vepr. LOL Edited April 14, 2010 by dragonwolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 If there was any way to get higher-capacity mags for it, I think this would be a more popular battle rifle. I would love one with 18"bbl, standard AK furni, and 20 round mags. Guess that'll never happen though. Unless the PSL experiences a huge surge in popularity in the US, that is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
padenbrown 2 Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 i need a psl upper the same lenght as a lower!!! shit i need a lower too lol, for my s308, has anyone ever seen a psl that someone has modded so the upper matches the lower Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mollysman420 19 Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 If there was any way to get higher-capacity mags for it, I think this would be a more popular battle rifle. I would love one with 18"bbl, standard AK furni, and 20 round mags. Guess that'll never happen though. Unless the PSL experiences a huge surge in popularity in the US, that is. That mag would have a wicked curve to it! I have a Vepr 308 with a 16" barrel. I wanted a 20" 30cal and figured ammo is cheap for the PSL. As far as the other Q if you can find the wood the mod to the gas tube would be easy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 i need a psl upper the same lenght as a lower!!! shit i need a lower too lol, for my s308, has anyone ever seen a psl that someone has modded so the upper matches the lower Ironwood Designs has a PSL handguard in-stock marked: "correct long upper/lower hand guard set" $110. Is this what yall are referring to? I think I can post a link since no forum vendors offer such products (Mods please remove if I am wrong.) http://www.ironwooddesigns.com/IWDsite/IWD2pchg.html (Bottom of the page.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Just a thought... Bren mags? .303 Brit isn't too far from 7.62x54R dimensionally. Two concerns spring to mind that could make it a pain in the ass. Bren mags are stupidly long - might have to mod the hell out of the receiver, and likely the front trunnion, for the weapon to accept unmodded Bren mags. Spring pressure might also be an issue. Being top-fod, the Bren mags might rely somewhat on gravity, and being mounted below the weapon might leave the spring unable to cope. But, assuming the ammunition fits the mag, those issues should be possible to overcome. So... Who wants to try it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDiwRFaJv-A Edited April 16, 2010 by madmax4x4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mollysman420 19 Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 I want that rifle with a solid side folder! And a case of the mags The problem with the hand guards is the upper stops short of the lower, it would look better if they lined up like AK hand guards! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
padenbrown 2 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) i need a psl upper the same lenght as a lower!!! shit i need a lower too lol, for my s308, has anyone ever seen a psl that someone has modded so the upper matches the lower Ironwood Designs has a PSL handguard in-stock marked: "correct long upper/lower hand guard set" $110. Is this what yall are referring to? I think I can post a link since no forum vendors offer such products (Mods please remove if I am wrong.) http://www.ironwooddesigns.com/IWDsite/IWD2pchg.html (Bottom of the page.) that set is the same as a regular psl stock set. i sent ironwood a email a couple months ago, asking if they could make an upper the same length as the lower, but they didnt seem to understand. i think ironwood is the way to go once i get them to understand what i want. once i get someone to make the stock i want, i figure it will be kinda more dragunov style, or as close as it can be without major mods for drag furniture Edited April 16, 2010 by BROWNEYE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 If there was any way to get higher-capacity mags for it, I think this would be a more popular battle rifle. I would love one with 18"bbl, standard AK furni, and 20 round mags. Guess that'll never happen though. Unless the PSL experiences a huge surge in popularity in the US, that is. That mag would have a wicked curve to it! I have a Vepr 308 with a 16" barrel. I wanted a 20" 30cal and figured ammo is cheap for the PSL. As far as the other Q if you can find the wood the mod to the gas tube would be easy. Anything is possible.. How much is it worth to you? And how many PSLs are out there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Anything is possible.. How much is it worth to you? And how many PSLs are out there? A 20 round mag would greatly expand the roles the PSL could fill. I'm hoping someone makes a good reliable one sooner or later. (I've saving up for PSL at the moment). Seems to me like there could be some gotchas in designing those mags though, considering the rimmed cartridges... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Yeah the rims are the problem. Recoil tends to link the rims every so often, which would give you a phantom feed issue. The design must be such that the rims will unlink before reaching the top of the mag, I'd guess the PSL mag has something on the back to do that function. I did read just now that the mags are "matched" to the gun at the factory.. Now that is a real pain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) I did read just now that the mags are "matched" to the gun at the factory.. Now that is a real pain. No not really and not with a PSL. But if "matched" is putting numbers on whatever then yes. SVD FPK PSL you know whats the cheapest but thats still a good deal. I want a krink FPK or PSL no really I do Edited April 16, 2010 by madmax4x4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mollysman420 19 Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 They made a 16" with the sight block right up tight against the Gas block. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 get a psl in .308. It takes the standard (if ever so pricey) galil mags. Im still kicking myself over the last one i passed over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mollysman420 19 Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 If it takes Galil mags you should be able to make it accept Saiga 308 mags? One in 308 would be stellar!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) Yeah the rims are the problem. Recoil tends to link the rims every so often, which would give you a phantom feed issue. The design must be such that the rims will unlink before reaching the top of the mag, I'd guess the PSL mag has something on the back to do that function. I did read just now that the mags are "matched" to the gun at the factory.. Now that is a real pain. People use surplus mags with PSL all the time without difficulties. It's hard to know, but I get the sense that the PSL is at least as popular as the Saiga 308, in terms of sales. A reliable 15 or 20 round mag would also, I think, expand the market. I'm guessing that Saiga 20s are about to get more popular, given the new magazine options coming. Edited April 16, 2010 by Jim Digriz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Hey, I just found this thing over on Atlantic Firearms, never seen one before but its pretty much what I had in mind. http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct886.aspx Now I just need a stack of converted Bren mags! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sjgusmc21 850 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Hey, I just found this thing over on Atlantic Firearms, never seen one before but its pretty much what I had in mind. http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct886.aspx Now I just need a stack of converted Bren mags! I have been drooling over that for a while now! Have been formulating in my head how hard it would be to convert one like this. I always get stuck at moding the back of the receiver. I am limited to what I can do on my patio (apt living). Still keeping it in mind though. I am sure those that are guru's here know much more about what all it would take to do so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Hey, I just found this thing over on Atlantic Firearms, never seen one before but its pretty much what I had in mind. http://www.atlanticf...product886.aspx Now I just need a stack of converted Bren mags! I have been drooling over that for a while now! Have been formulating in my head how hard it would be to convert one like this. I always get stuck at moding the back of the receiver. I am limited to what I can do on my patio (apt living). Still keeping it in mind though. I am sure those that are guru's here know much more about what all it would take to do so. Instead of modding the reciever, you could just get the stock set of your choice (in the wood of your choice) from Ironwood Designs. Their PSL stocks are made to fit the radius cut reciever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Hey, I just found this thing over on Atlantic Firearms, never seen one before but its pretty much what I had in mind. http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct886.aspx Yikes. The muzzle blast and loudness of that thing would be overwhelming, I would think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HarvKY 72 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Im guessing thats one of the conversion models (re; the back end mounting) that the group in TN is putting out ?? They had/have both a shorty (truck gun) version and a longer PSL version. On another forum where these were intoduced everyone was clammoring for 20rd mags for them. Someone in those threads posted in a veiled manner that folks should "keep an eye out" for 20's - dont know if he is with the company, just trying to stir up sales, or actually knows something? HarvKY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Eric Pate 478 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I just realized that thing in the above pic is bolt action. Now I'm really confused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernBornRebel 0 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 I just recently built up a PSL. I am trying to figure out some way to get a 20 round mag to work but until then, 10 rounders will have to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 I just recently built up a PSL. I am trying to figure out some way to get a 20 round mag to work but until then, 10 rounders will have to do. Nice looking gun! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sjgusmc21 850 Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 (edited) I just recently built up a PSL. I am trying to figure out some way to get a 20 round mag to work but until then, 10 rounders will have to do. Very HOT! Looks painful on the shoulder though. Great job! Did you make the back plate yourself? Edited April 23, 2010 by sjgusmc21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernBornRebel 0 Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 Very HOT! Looks painful on the shoulder though. Great job! Did you make the back plate yourself? No, it is all standard AK parts. I didn't want to "Bubba" it up, although some will say I did. It has a Romanian sidefolder lever stock, standard AK pistol grip, K-Var handguards and normally wears the RPK style brake. You would be surprised how comfortable this rifle is to shoot. It isn't painful at all, which shocked the hell out of me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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