sicktooth 8 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 (edited) Went out last weekend to shoot and this happened when I bump fired a couple of mags. I racked the Saiga after the backwords jam,then it tried to chamber two rounds at once. Thought I would share this with you guys... Edited April 29, 2010 by sicktooth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Bump fire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sicktooth 8 Posted April 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Oh...thanks... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mgconnor13 206 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 I've had feeding issues because of a bad mag. other then then that my AKs have been flawless. never seen a backwards shell like that before.... very interesting..... double feeds are usually mag related in my experience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paprotective 362 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Do you have a bullet guide in it?? can't tell from the pic. Laquer on the casings may have gotten hot and dragged one-another up to the breach.. (aka bumpfire) The backwards one is probably from sticking to the HOT bolt (bottom side) and it got flip-flopped. Never thad that happen to me.. but I don't and have not ever bump-fired (yet ) Guessing here.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Bump fire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Donkismash 81 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Bump fire. Bump fire also when you have a fail to feed/eject drop the mag first then clear the problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 The double feed looks more like the mag is sitting to high in the gun. Try pushing hard up on the mag and see if it can grab two rounds. How did you adjust the Ak mag to fit? Actually in looking harder it is hard to say what happened there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elia.jon1 1 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 the quickest way to fuckfeed a ar or ak is to fuck up a bump fire...... that is why it is not a normal way to shoot and whatnot...... its a trick not a skill...... a fucked-bump-fire will also drop a hammer on a live round and not have it go off.....let the hammer go to soon and it rides the bolt home..... shoot a ak and it wont jam unless the mag is f-ed....bump a gun and watch the fuck ups fly to the surface..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Dude, bumpfire is the equivalent of limp-wristing a pistol. My pistols have 100% reliability until I limp-wrist one and it double-feeds/jams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Every gun that fires cartridges can jam. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superA 289 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 How did the round get turned around? In the next to last picture they are both facing forward and then the last picture shows one backwards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eric1785 15 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Yea dont see how it turned around like that, is there enough room to move like that? i Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 I'm guessing while it was being extracted, the limp-wristy-shoulderless bump-firing caused the case to fail to extract completely, and the bolt carrier caught it and pushed it back forward, backwards.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Saiga != Avtomat Kalashnikova != is computerese for "does not equal" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superhawk138 202 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Avtomat Kalashnikova - avtomat = saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Every gun that fires cartridges can jam. This. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Shooting a firearm by a method it was never designed to and then complaining when it doesn't work doesn't make sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loki0629 55 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Shooting a firearm by a method it was never designed to and then complaining when it doesn't work doesn't make sense. Yep. In theory I can fire my AK using my feet but I'm not going to expect it to work properly either. BTW don't try this at home folks, it was meant as a tongue-in-cheek response. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 (edited) Shooting a firearm by a method it was never designed to and then complaining when it doesn't work doesn't make sense. Yep. In theory I can fire my AK using my feet but I'm not going to expect it to work properly either. BTW don't try this at home folks, it was meant as a tongue-in-cheek response. I'm going to try this, and if something goes horribly wrong, I'm blaming you personally. Edited May 1, 2010 by -Shooter- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sicktooth 8 Posted May 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Shooting a firearm by a method it was never designed to and then complaining when it doesn't work doesn't make sense. How am I complaing? Everyone fucks around with their toys...if you find my post offensive, delete it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Shooting a firearm by a method it was never designed to and then complaining when it doesn't work doesn't make sense. How am I complaing? Everyone fucks around with their toys...if you find my post offensive, delete it... Just look at the title of your thread. It takes no imagination at all to see it as a complaint when you call bullshit because the AK jammed when bump firing. It's not the fault of the firearm in this case. You can say whatever you want, but by the same token I don't have to agree with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elia.jon1 1 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 i dont take it as a complaint....i take it as a bump-fire EPIC FAIL....someone needs practice... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loki0629 55 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Shooting a firearm by a method it was never designed to and then complaining when it doesn't work doesn't make sense. Yep. In theory I can fire my AK using my feet but I'm not going to expect it to work properly either. BTW don't try this at home folks, it was meant as a tongue-in-cheek response. I'm going to try this, and if something goes horribly wrong, I'm blaming you personally. Please post on youtube so we can all point and laugh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Shooting a firearm by a method it was never designed to and then complaining when it doesn't work doesn't make sense. Yep. In theory I can fire my AK using my feet but I'm not going to expect it to work properly either. BTW don't try this at home folks, it was meant as a tongue-in-cheek response. I'm going to try this, and if something goes horribly wrong, I'm blaming you personally. Please post on youtube so we can all point and laugh! Of course I will! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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