MCASgt New River 10,036 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 OK, to say this thing has a HIGH cyclic rate is an understatement. I want to test it out this evening when I brought it home so I loaded 3 rounds into the mag, cocked the bolt open, shouldered the weapon and squeezed! Well, it went SOOO damn fast that I looked down to see if I had a weapon malfunction, FTE, or some other jam...but low and behold I looked down at the gound and there were 3 EMPTY CASINGS! I SWEAR I ONLY HEARD ONE GUN SHOT!! Replay of the video shows very well, 3 empty casings flying through the air...so needless to say, all those willing to donate any and all unwanted, un-needed or homeless .45acp ammo please PM for my adddress. My MAC has a voracious appetite! Semper Fi, Kill, Kill, Kill! MCASSgt New River Quote Link to post Share on other sites
selph arms llc 14 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 You think the 45 is hungry, try the 380 Mac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MCASgt New River 10,036 Posted May 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 I have heard the .45 is somewhere around 1100RPM and the .380 is like 1600RPM?? Verify please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 (edited) Where is this video you speak of whitey??? Is this the stamp you have been waiting for since march??? Edited May 22, 2010 by Bean.223 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 I had an RPB 380 M-11 20 years ago. It wasn't full auto though, just an open bolt semi. It came with a couple hundred rounds of what I assume were hand loaded ammo. I say that because I found out they were JUST powerful enough to cycle the action, but not kick the bolt back hard enough to catch the bolt. The guy I got it from (who was a MI State Trooper) said to load 3 "special" rounds, then one regular round. He loaded up a mag for me before I left. That would produce the equivilent of a 3 round burst. Sounded like one shot though. Never found any more ammo like that, which was probably a good thing. Not sure if that would have been illegal or not. The gun itself wasn't modified in any way. Still, I sold the thing after a few years. Yeah, it was really fast. Corbin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MCASgt New River 10,036 Posted May 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Where is this video you speak of whitey??? Is this the stamp you have been waiting for since march??? Whitey, huh?? Well, you can go take a long walk off a short pier my friend! But yes, this stamp went through VERY quick...this time. Usually my average is about 3 months...this one was SUPER QUICK : - Sent: 03/23/10 - Del w/signature: 04/03/20 @ 03:19 PM - Chk Cashed: 04/08/10 - Approved: 5/17/10 - Form 4 Received: 5/20/10 - Picked up from Dealer: 5/21/10 Either way if you count from 3/23 or 4/3 to 5/17 thats FRICK'N QUICK!! You do have to realize this though, I paid for this weapon almost 2 years ago. My Sheriff didnt want to sign the Form 4 the first time I went to him, then I got deployed. So after all the BS I went back again and he had no problem signing off. The video will be posted tonight. I had an issue with photobucket last night and it didnt want to load. MCASSgt New River Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Raoul_Duke 113 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Nice! I'm itching for a FA . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MCASgt New River 10,036 Posted May 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 I'm in a definate search for a Lage slow-fire upper in .45 & 9mm now...this thing will eat me out of house and home in no time if I dont. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe Zambeak 53 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Congrats! That is one fun machine for sure! One of my buddies that I met through forum member Kwesi has a M-10 FA. That thing is great for installing skylights at the range! LOL! He has a fake suppressor on his, and it really helps control the muzzle climb. Even with that on there it is all you can do to hold it on the paper for a full mag. I love to watch the arc of casings fly out the side whenever someone holds it down for a full mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Congrats! Let us know when you have spent more on ammo than the $3k you spent on the gun. You can use an mag adapter and 9mm upper to shoot 9mm, right? I just sent off my form 4 for an M11/9, so I'll be joining the club soon. Got a Lage upper ordered yet? Here is a fast gun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xc5GcQLB0I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 With a MacJacker you can get ~2000rpm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Video link: LOL yeah your puzzled look was obvious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Congratulations on your first full auto. I can barely feed a 1911, I can only imagine the pain of a MAC 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 I love my Lage max-11 and I'm waiting for the .22lr conversion kit. Here's one for sale WTS: LAGE MAX10-45 I need to fund another project so I'm selling my Lage MAX10-45 Slowfire Upper Reciever. I take immaculate care of my weapons and I would rate this unit at 98%. Very light wear to the parkerizing only on the edges of the slot where the charging handle travels. Less than 2500 rounds thru it since I bought it in January 2008. Absolutely new condition. What you get.... Lage MAX10-45 Reciever with standard foregrip ....New cost $895 Lage K Grip.............................................. .........New cost $85 Side Acccessory Rails.........................................New cost $50 Total new cost.............................................. .............$1030 I'll let it go for $900+shipping from Alabama http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53822 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thehopping1 105 Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Congrats! Let us know when you have spent more on ammo than the $3k you spent on the gun. You can use an mag adapter and 9mm upper to shoot 9mm, right? I just sent off my form 4 for an M11/9, so I'll be joining the club soon. Got a Lage upper ordered yet? Here is a fast gun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xc5GcQLB0I Holy crap I had a chance to shoot a FA M10 and thought it was surprisingly controllable. I kept all 32 rounds on a 5' square sized target from 50 yards. If I could afford to feed one I would definitely get one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raidersfan_5544 57 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 "I had a chance to shoot a FA M10 and thought it was surprisingly controllable. I kept all 32 rounds on a 5' square sized target from 50 yards. If I could afford to feed one I would definitely get one." You have a video of this? If not I'm calling BS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MCASgt New River 10,036 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I love my Lage max-11 and I'm waiting for the .22lr conversion kit. Here's one for sale WTS: LAGE MAX10-45 I need to fund another project so I'm selling my Lage MAX10-45 Slowfire Upper Reciever. I take immaculate care of my weapons and I would rate this unit at 98%. Very light wear to the parkerizing only on the edges of the slot where the charging handle travels. Less than 2500 rounds thru it since I bought it in January 2008. Absolutely new condition. What you get.... Lage MAX10-45 Reciever with standard foregrip ....New cost $895 Lage K Grip.............................................. .........New cost $85 Side Acccessory Rails.........................................New cost $50 Total new cost.............................................. .............$1030 I'll let it go for $900+shipping from Alabama http://www.uzitalk.c...ead.php?t=53822 See PM, I'm still interested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macaholic 5 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 OK, to say this thing has a HIGH cyclic rate is an understatement. I want to test it out this evening when I brought it home so I loaded 3 rounds into the mag, cocked the bolt open, shouldered the weapon and squeezed! Well, it went SOOO damn fast that I looked down to see if I had a weapon malfunction, FTE, or some other jam...but low and behold I looked down at the gound and there were 3 EMPTY CASINGS! I SWEAR I ONLY HEARD ONE GUN SHOT!! Replay of the video shows very well, 3 empty casings flying through the air...so needless to say, all those willing to donate any and all unwanted, un-needed or homeless .45acp ammo please PM for my adddress. My MAC has a voracious appetite! Semper Fi, Kill, Kill, Kill! MCASSgt New River Congradulations on the purchass of such a fine old Subgun. You just happen to have the most desireable of all Mac's, the Powder Springs model 10. I own 2 of them and two Daniels model 11's. If I could give some humble advice, Please take the time to get a feel for the cyclic rate. What I would suggest is to run about 500 rounds through it while practiceing controled burst. After a while, you will begin to notice that consistant doubles and triples are very easily achieved on full auto mode. Also, use the stock and look through your sights. The standard distance for that gun should be about 25 to 50 feet. The gun is very accurate at the distances it was designed for and very controlable as well, after you have put in the right amount of trigger time. Lastly, please do your self a big favor and stay away from the Lage upper, and all other slow fire gadets made for that particular weapon, because the are dangerous. I have personaly wittnessed the Lage upper and other after market slowfire uppers produce randome run away's. This is the very thing they are famous for and that is exactly why I call the dangerous. Besides, a little practice and you will see that your old Mac is not so uncontroleable after all and you will be haveing more fun than you could have ever imagined. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MCASgt New River 10,036 Posted July 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 Congradulations on the purchass of such a fine old Subgun. You just happen to have the most desireable of all Mac's, the Powder Springs model 10. I own 2 of them and two Daniels model 11's. If I could give some humble advice, Please take the time to get a feel for the cyclic rate. What I would suggest is to run about 500 rounds through it while practiceing controled burst. After a while, you will begin to notice that consistant doubles and triples are very easily achieved on full auto mode. Also, use the stock and look through your sights. The standard distance for that gun should be about 25 to 50 feet. The gun is very accurate at the distances it was designed for and very controlable as well, after you have put in the right amount of trigger time. Lastly, please do your self a big favor and stay away from the Lage upper, and all other slow fire gadets made for that particular weapon, because the are dangerous. I have personaly wittnessed the Lage upper and other after market slowfire uppers produce randome run away's. This is the very thing they are famous for and that is exactly why I call the dangerous. Besides, a little practice and you will see that your old Mac is not so uncontroleable after all and you will be haveing more fun than you could have ever imagined. I took the MAC to my last CQB shooting competition just for some shits-n-giggles. I managed to be able to but down 8 targets and have some ammo left over in the magazine to spray at the end of the stage. (See the NFA Video's LINK and look for posts #20 and 22 this is me shooting.) I appreciate all the suggestions but Richard Lage is a member here and is well respected in the MAC Community. I'm VERY interested in getting a .45acp & 9mm slow-fire conversion upper as well as a Practical Solutions .22lr kit. My SWR Spectre is itching to suppress a FA weapon!! Thanks & stay safe, MCASSgt New River Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M11stuff@hotmailcom 3 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 Wow! I would really like to hear from the customer that had a runaway with one of my upper receivers. Of course, I am only hearing of this alleged incident second hand. I have been manufacturing and selling slowfire uppers for 6 years now and never heard of a runaway that was not a result of a worn out sear or underpowered, reloaded ammunition. Neither has anything to do with the upper receiver. -Richard Lage Lage Manufacturing P.S.- Good to see you posting over here since you were banned from Uzitalk and MAC10talk. Congradulations on the purchass of such a fine old Subgun. You just happen to have the most desireable of all Mac's, the Powder Springs model 10. I own 2 of them and two Daniels model 11's. If I could give some humble advice, Please take the time to get a feel for the cyclic rate. What I would suggest is to run about 500 rounds through it while practiceing controled burst. After a while, you will begin to notice that consistant doubles and triples are very easily achieved on full auto mode. Also, use the stock and look through your sights. The standard distance for that gun should be about 25 to 50 feet. The gun is very accurate at the distances it was designed for and very controlable as well, after you have put in the right amount of trigger time. Lastly, please do your self a big favor and stay away from the Lage upper, and all other slow fire gadets made for that particular weapon, because the are dangerous. I have personaly wittnessed the Lage upper and other after market slowfire uppers produce randome run away's. This is the very thing they are famous for and that is exactly why I call the dangerous. Besides, a little practice and you will see that your old Mac is not so uncontroleable after all and you will be haveing more fun than you could have ever imagined. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrM4 3 Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 (edited) If it isnt our old friend macoholic or as he thinks of himself "god". I see your here telling the same lies and slander that got you banned from uzitalk.com. Hopefully people here will see threw your BS quickly. Edited July 25, 2010 by MrM4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmacken37 4 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) I have personaly wittnessed the Lage upper and other after market slowfire uppers produce randome run away's. This is the very thing they are famous for and that is exactly why I call the dangerous. Besides, a little practice and you will see that your old Mac is not so uncontroleable after all and you will be haveing more fun than you could have ever imagined. Macaholic, I appreciate your admiration for the Mac guns. What has gotten you into trouble is the way you consistently fight against anyone who wants to modify their mac and the manner in which you conduct your "fight." You've really crossed the line above by labeling the Lage upper as "dangerous." My Lage uppers have NEVER given me a problem (I've had 3 of them). They are widely in use in the various subgun matches I've participated in and watched because they work. It is strange that you devote yourself to the mac in its stock form. In my opinion (note how I make that clear), the factory M11/Nine (I don't have any other macs) with its high rate of fire, crude, pot metal parts, and collapsing stock is unsafe. Jake Edited July 26, 2010 by jmacken37 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chowderhead72 13 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Was that a 4-way Bitch slap? Nice! MCASSgt New River: Good luck with your purchase, looks like expensive fun.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macaholic 5 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Congradulations on the purchass of such a fine old Subgun. You just happen to have the most desireable of all Mac's, the Powder Springs model 10. I own 2 of them and two Daniels model 11's. If I could give some humble advice, Please take the time to get a feel for the cyclic rate. What I would suggest is to run about 500 rounds through it while practiceing controled burst. After a while, you will begin to notice that consistant doubles and triples are very easily achieved on full auto mode. Also, use the stock and look through your sights. The standard distance for that gun should be about 25 to 50 feet. The gun is very accurate at the distances it was designed for and very controlable as well, after you have put in the right amount of trigger time. Lastly, please do your self a big favor and stay away from the Lage upper, and all other slow fire gadets made for that particular weapon, because the are dangerous. I have personaly wittnessed the Lage upper and other after market slowfire uppers produce randome run away's. This is the very thing they are famous for and that is exactly why I call the dangerous. Besides, a little practice and you will see that your old Mac is not so uncontroleable after all and you will be haveing more fun than you could have ever imagined. I took the MAC to my last CQB shooting competition just for some shits-n-giggles. I managed to be able to but down 8 targets and have some ammo left over in the magazine to spray at the end of the stage. (See the NFA Video's LINK and look for posts #20 and 22 this is me shooting.) I appreciate all the suggestions but Richard Lage is a member here and is well respected in the MAC Community. I'm VERY interested in getting a .45acp & 9mm slow-fire conversion upper as well as a Practical Solutions .22lr kit. My SWR Spectre is itching to suppress a FA weapon!! Thanks & stay safe, MCASSgt New River Mazel tov! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macaholic 5 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) If it isnt our old friend macoholic or as he thinks of himself "god". I see your here telling the same lies and slander that got you banned from uzitalk.com. Hopefully people here will see threw your BS quickly. You hope people will see threw my B.S quickly? Wow! looks like your spelling is as bad as mine! Edited July 30, 2010 by macaholic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macaholic 5 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) Wow! I would really like to hear from the customer that had a runaway with one of my upper receivers. Of course, I am only hearing of this alleged incident second hand. I have been manufacturing and selling slowfire uppers for 6 years now and never heard of a runaway that was not a result of a worn out sear or underpowered, reloaded ammunition. Neither has anything to do with the upper receiver. -Richard Lage Lage Manufacturing P.S.- Good to see you posting over here since you were banned from Uzitalk and MAC10talk. Congradulations on the purchass of such a fine old Subgun. You just happen to have the most desireable of all Mac's, the Powder Springs model 10. I own 2 of them and two Daniels model 11's. If I could give some humble advice, Please take the time to get a feel for the cyclic rate. What I would suggest is to run about 500 rounds through it while practiceing controled burst. After a while, you will begin to notice that consistant doubles and triples are very easily achieved on full auto mode. Also, use the stock and look through your sights. The standard distance for that gun should be about 25 to 50 feet. The gun is very accurate at the distances it was designed for and very controlable as well, after you have put in the right amount of trigger time. Lastly, please do your self a big favor and stay away from the Lage upper, and all other slow fire gadets made for that particular weapon, because the are dangerous. I have personaly wittnessed the Lage upper and other after market slowfire uppers produce randome run away's. This is the very thing they are famous for and that is exactly why I call the dangerous. Besides, a little practice and you will see that your old Mac is not so uncontroleable after all and you will be haveing more fun than you could have ever imagined. This is the type of reply I would expect from you concerning your product. Unfortunately, my testamony to the failiers and randome runaway's I've wittnessed, are all first hand and I even had the oportunety to personally inspect one of the weapons after the incedent, and saw no problem with the sear or any other part of the factory lower. As for ammo used, I believe the opperator was useing 115 grain Winchester in the white box. In addition, I have also seen a number of other reliability issues associated with the use of your uppers. If it were my call, I would ban the use of your uppers at our local subgun matches for safety reasons. Edited July 31, 2010 by macaholic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macaholic 5 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) I have personaly wittnessed the Lage upper and other after market slowfire uppers produce randome run away's. This is the very thing they are famous for and that is exactly why I call the dangerous. Besides, a little practice and you will see that your old Mac is not so uncontroleable after all and you will be haveing more fun than you could have ever imagined. Macaholic, I appreciate your admiration for the Mac guns. What has gotten you into trouble is the way you consistently fight against anyone who wants to modify their mac and the manner in which you conduct your "fight." You've really crossed the line above by labeling the Lage upper as "dangerous." My Lage uppers have NEVER given me a problem (I've had 3 of them). They are widely in use in the various subgun matches I've participated in and watched because they work. It is strange that you devote yourself to the mac in its stock form. In my opinion (note how I make that clear), the factory M11/Nine (I don't have any other macs) with its high rate of fire, crude, pot metal parts, and collapsing stock is unsafe. Jake It's beginning to feel like old times Jake. Glad to see I have a few friends I can relate to over here. Edited July 30, 2010 by macaholic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macaholic 5 Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) If it isnt our old friend macoholic or as he thinks of himself "god". I see your here telling the same lies and slander that got you banned from uzitalk.com. Hopefully people here will see threw your BS quickly. I was banned from Uzitalk for telling lies and makeing slanderous statements ? Well how about going to the Mac 10 site on Uzitalk, and read the thread posted by Trident 9, titled, My first runaway. Edited July 31, 2010 by macaholic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M11stuff@hotmailcom 3 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Wow! I would really like to hear from the customer that had a runaway with one of my upper receivers. Of course, I am only hearing of this alleged incident second hand. I have been manufacturing and selling slowfire uppers for 6 years now and never heard of a runaway that was not a result of a worn out sear or underpowered, reloaded ammunition. Neither has anything to do with the upper receiver. -Richard Lage Lage Manufacturing P.S.- Good to see you posting over here since you were banned from Uzitalk and MAC10talk. Congradulations on the purchass of such a fine old Subgun. You just happen to have the most desireable of all Mac's, the Powder Springs model 10. I own 2 of them and two Daniels model 11's. If I could give some humble advice, Please take the time to get a feel for the cyclic rate. What I would suggest is to run about 500 rounds through it while practiceing controled burst. After a while, you will begin to notice that consistant doubles and triples are very easily achieved on full auto mode. Also, use the stock and look through your sights. The standard distance for that gun should be about 25 to 50 feet. The gun is very accurate at the distances it was designed for and very controlable as well, after you have put in the right amount of trigger time. Lastly, please do your self a big favor and stay away from the Lage upper, and all other slow fire gadets made for that particular weapon, because the are dangerous. I have personaly wittnessed the Lage upper and other after market slowfire uppers produce randome run away's. This is the very thing they are famous for and that is exactly why I call the dangerous. Besides, a little practice and you will see that your old Mac is not so uncontroleable after all and you will be haveing more fun than you could have ever imagined. This is the type of reply I would expect from you concerning your product. Unfortunately, my testamony to the failiers and randome runaway's I've wittnessed, are all first hand and I even had the oportunety to personally inspect one of the weapons after the incedent, and saw no problem with the sear or any other part of the factory lower. As for ammo used, I believe the opperator was useing 115 grain Winchester in the white box. In addition, I have also seen a number of other reliability issues associated with the use of your uppers. If it were my call, I would ban the use of your uppers at our local subgun matches for safety reasons. Macaholic, if you are sincerely concerned about this issue (and you sound like you are), please encourage any MAX-11 or MAX-10 owner that has experienced this problem to contact me ( sales@max-11.com or 602-430-1978 ). The condition you are describing is abnormal and I would like to hear from them to resolve the issue. If I do not know about a problem, I cannot resolve it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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