bearhead 2 Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I only have 5 AKs in my collection so far with a wishlist at least 10 deep... if you could only choose 1 AK to keep the rest of your days which one would it be and why? I'm not sure myself... it would have to have folding stock, great choices for optics installation, quality build... not get too hot too fast like my wasr... I think I'd have to shoot all the ones on my wishlist to choose for sure... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Krinkov! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akastormi 617 Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 IMHO, there like potato chips, you can't have just one, or 10, or 25, you'll always want the next one. Do I have fav's? Yes. Do I have safe Queens? Yes. They don't really take up to much space. You don't have to feed them every day. They don't get jelious of each other. Why settle on one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I don't even have a .223 Saiga, but if i had to choose ONE ak, that would be it. No i don't think the .223 is better than 7.62x39, nor better than the .308. In fact, i think .223 sucks as a round. BUT it's sufficient and plentiful in the US. If I were in a foreign country, 7.62x39. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 if I could only keep one, it would be my POLYTECH LEGEND. why? old school baby, milled receiver, thicker barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) Obviously the 7.62x39 in 103 configuration is the most ideal for all around use. The idea of a Krinkov is silly because it lacks accuracy beyond 100m. The idea of a milled PolyTech Legend is equally bad because it lacks 24mm threads for a proper brake and weighs more then it needs to (also I don't trust anything made in China...). Edited June 18, 2010 by bigsal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macbeau 902 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 My .308 Saiga, Baby... 14 mags. 2000 rds and all-around awesome! I sold my Galil ARM and Israeli PARA because I was out of work... But, I keep the S-308... Macbeau sends... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob-cubed 74 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 A 7.62 VEPR. They are heavy but hands-down the most accurate AKs I've ever shot. And very well finished like all Russian rifles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PRISONSHANK 70 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 SGL21-72 so fresh & so clean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Valmet 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loki0629 55 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 +1 on the S308. But I can't afford to get a Valmet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CavScout888 0 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 SLR-106F But I'd need to stock up prior with magazines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volkov 318 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) Any good solid stamped 7.62 gets my vote (especially the saiga). My favorite I own is a lancaster built on a polish kit (I DO NOT recomend lancaster but I got lucky- don't own a saiga in 7.62 because I got this first and like it, but I love my saiga's in other calibers). I use the ak 100 plastic type looks for weight and because I find the forend to be very comfortable- and I've tried a huge selection of furniture before deciding the russians just knew what they were doing and it's my favorite set up. I don't like milled- I'm with bigsal on this one, it's unneccesary. I'd also consider the 5.45 for affordability on ammo.. Have a saiga 5.45 set up identically to my 47 and love it almost as much. It sees the most range time due to how cheap it is to shoot it. and the valmet is a cool gun as well.. wish I had one Edited January 16, 2011 by volkov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jager 1 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Robinson Armament Vepr K in 7.62x29. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 The idea of a Krinkov is silly because it lacks accuracy beyond 100m Untrue 300 yards is easy for a 5.45 AKSU and just about as easy for a 7.62. I had both and regularly shot them at 300 yards, hitting a 3/4 mansize steel plate is routine with irons, even simpler with a red dot. Z 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 The idea of a Krinkov is silly because it lacks accuracy beyond 100m Untrue 300 yards is easy for a 5.45 AKSU and just about as easy for a 7.62. I had both and regularly shot them at 300 yards, hitting a 3/4 mansize steel plate is routine with irons, even simpler with a red dot. Z +1 I run my 7.62 AKSU out to 200 with an aimpoint its like cheating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 The idea of a Krinkov is silly because it lacks accuracy beyond 100m Untrue 300 yards is easy for a 5.45 AKSU and just about as easy for a 7.62. I had both and regularly shot them at 300 yards, hitting a 3/4 mansize steel plate is routine with irons, even simpler with a red dot. Z TX:> the 8" barrel lets the 5.45 out with 1900 FPS which is much less than a 16" barrel. I am glad you are having such good results with your rifles, but you can't tell me there is no difference in accuracy between the two lengths..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm not telling you there is no difference in accuracy. I'm telling you that 300 yards is a routine shot for AKSU's, which is based on actually shooting them as opposed to reading about them on the Internet. The muzzle velocity difference is an academic discussion, real world accuracy is excellent despite the difference in barrel length. They don't lack accuracy beyond 100m and to suggest they do is misleading. There is a tendency for people to keep thinking AK's are inaccurate, but even 8" barrel 7.62 SLR107's will hit at 300 yards pretty consistently, particularly when used with a red dot which eliminates sight radius problems at those distances. All I can say is what many people already do, that AK's have excellent practical accuracy and can reliably score hits past 300m with a decent shooter behind the trigger. Z 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supertex 242 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 arsenal sgl 21-61, because it`s all new and not a vodka special Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm not telling you there is no difference in accuracy. I'm telling you that 300 yards is a routine shot for AKSU's, which is based on actually shooting them as opposed to reading about them on the Internet. ... Well sure, as long as the target is large enought.... But you should do some of this amazing AK shooting in a large public match and lay this puppy to rest! BTW, I have also done a LOT of AK shooting and a lot of high power in general. Your experience seems contrary to my observed reality for whatever reason... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 if you could only choose 1 AK to keep the rest of your days which one would it be and why? My self-converted x39 Saiga. I already know it runs like a raped ape, so I know I can trust it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Well sure, as long as the target is large enought.... But you should do some of this amazing AK shooting in a large public match and lay this puppy to rest! BTW, I have also done a LOT of AK shooting and a lot of high power in general. Your experience seems contrary to my observed reality for whatever reason... Do you shoot an AKSU at 300 yards? All I can say is that I do and my observations are like I mentioned...300 yards is not difficult, its pretty routine. We're not talking headshots, previously I stated a 3/4 man size steel plate, basically a little bigger than a torso sized target. We're not talking magic here or myserious sub moa accuracy either, the AKSU is a very reasonable performer past 100 yards. Z 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
7N6Wolf 61 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Valmet I would also choose a Valmet if I could only have one AK (I have a strong preference for aperture sights). I just wish I could afford one of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I'm not telling you there is no difference in accuracy. I'm telling you that 300 yards is a routine shot for AKSU's, which is based on actually shooting them as opposed to reading about them on the Internet. The muzzle velocity difference is an academic discussion, real world accuracy is excellent despite the difference in barrel length. They don't lack accuracy beyond 100m and to suggest they do is misleading. There is a tendency for people to keep thinking AK's are inaccurate, but even 8" barrel 7.62 SLR107's will hit at 300 yards pretty consistently, particularly when used with a red dot which eliminates sight radius problems at those distances. All I can say is what many people already do, that AK's have excellent practical accuracy and can reliably score hits past 300m with a decent shooter behind the trigger. Z I will yield to your real world experience bro, but a 16" barrel would be much more consistent in reaching out beyond 100m as I originally stated. That is unless the laws of physics are temporaraly suspended around Krinkovs..... (but seriously, no disrespect intended, I dont doubt you are getting those results) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I agree a 16" AKS74 is a better overall choice for just one AK but the AKSU can still get the job done, at leastin semi automatic. There is a reason why they aren't used by regular troops in the Russian army, partly due to less accuracy on full auto and partly due to the AKSU having the tendency to stall out during automatic fire. My understanding is that the 74 is highly effective at longer ranges and the AKSU isn't as much, so all things considered troops don't like them a whole lot, from what I have heard. That being said for a Katrina type situation I would prefer a fullsize 74 but wouldn't have a problem taking an AKSU for defense, they are accurate enough. Z 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Well sure, as long as the target is large enought.... But you should do some of this amazing AK shooting in a large public match and lay this puppy to rest! BTW, I have also done a LOT of AK shooting and a lot of high power in general. Your experience seems contrary to my observed reality for whatever reason... Do you shoot an AKSU at 300 yards? All I can say is that I do and my observations are like I mentioned...300 yards is not difficult, its pretty routine. We're not talking headshots, previously I stated a 3/4 man size steel plate, basically a little bigger than a torso sized target. We're not talking magic here or myserious sub moa accuracy either, the AKSU is a very reasonable performer past 100 yards. Z I read your other posting on the Winter Course that you has attended. Your claims there were very reasonable and practical for the AK. I just get tired of the 1-2 MOA idiots that post here consistently. To answer your question, I have fired both the AKSU-74 and the AK105. I am fan of the 5.45x39 if only for its price. I have a LOT of it. I am working on an piston upper for my M4 in that caliber right now. The only reason I want to do it with an M4 as oppsoed to an AK is because mine is a ClassIII rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Select fire 5.45 M4 with a piston sounds pretty darn neat, hope you can get it together and have it run smooth. That would be sweet indeed. Personally I'm not a 1 MOA kind of guy which is the main reason I think AK's and AKSU's are plenty accurate, I think we agree on that. Z 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ANDREY 40 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 See pic attached. No comments necessary. Brgds, A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike1234567 26 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Are we talking manufacturer, modifer, caliber? If just 1 caliber I'd pick a .308 because it's the most versatile, IMHO. Good for SD and hunting plus ammo is still fairly cheap/plentiful. I'd stock up on ammo and maybe some spare parts. Just my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga_rom 91 Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 I only have 5 AKs in my collection so far with a wishlist at least 10 deep... if you could only choose 1 AK to keep the rest of your days which one would it be and why? I'm not sure myself... it would have to have folding stock, great choices for optics installation, quality build... not get too hot too fast like my wasr... I think I'd have to shoot all the ones on my wishlist to choose for sure... if i could only have one AK style rifle, i think id go with a nice classic wood grain milled russian AK with a slant cut muzzle break. i really like that deep red finish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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