Hello XDM .45

[saigalupo 1]

I just bought the new Springfield XDM .45 about 8 hours ago for $610.... It was an impulse buy and I made a mistake. I have not even fired it yet

and Im going to take it back tomarrow for a refund and probley get a Glock 21sf or a S&W 686 plus 3 inch like I originally planned.

The gun felt really good in hand and pointed well and had a match grade barrel but...

 

Just some gimmicky things about it I DO NOT like.

 

1st, the loaded chamber indicator, do we really need a big piece o metal sticking up to snag on something when the weapon is loaded??

 

Also mag release was very gritty and sticky, I guess Sig and HK just spoiled me.

 

2nd, the picatinny rail is waaay outta spec, wont fit any of my lights and not even close to any picatinny rails I have laying around. Springfield calls it a "Multi-Adjust Rail System". Bull focking shit nothing adjustable about it, same one my Sig has except that one is actually in spec and works. I think its just for looks. Even

my cat was like WTF man..

 

I guess this is what I get for not doing some research first and buying on impulse. I should say this this what I get for buying a gun

with motherfucking rails on the motherfucking Box! WTF!

 

These things erked me enough to bring it back tomarrow.

Edited June 22, 2010 by saigalupo

[theplastik 67]

Yes, I hate how the XDM is about aesthetics for marketing rather than reliability and functionality.

I hear some models are picky about ammo also.

 

A GEN 4 Glock is a much better buy.

[VaiFanatic90 360]

I actually picked one up at the local gun store to see how it felt. I didn't like the feeling of it in my hand. The mag release was gritty just like you said, and pulling back the slide was damn near impossible.

[sjgusmc21 850]

Shit, lost everything I was typing...OK, here we go again...

 

Bought a New XD .45 OD Tactical a few months ago from buds. Price was outstanding and a great value. I have took it to the range and put about 250+ rounds through it. No FTE, FTF, nothing. Fired HP, SP, Jacketed, etc., etc. Worked superbly. However, as this is my first 'resin' pistol, there are a few things I don't like, but are easily fixed...

 

1. Don't like the trigger...too mushy and way too much travel. This is a relatively cheap and easy fix. Will do that in the near future.

 

2. FREAK'N MAG RELEASE WAS MADE FOR SUPERMAN! Wow. However, this will also be replaced and will function much better when done.

 

3. Slide release. Don't dislike or like it, but feel the replacement for it is much better. This too will be done in the near future.

 

I haven't qualified with a pistol since around 1998. We qualified with Berreta 9mm. Sweet pistol BTW. The first .45 I qualified with was in Sea School in 1982, and it was a HUGE POS (the old 'shake, rattle, and role' military colts that were old as dirt). Anyway, my first 50 rounds out of my XD at 15 yards, 42 were in the black, the other 7 was near the black, and the last one was the 'pulled that one out of my ass' shot. So I am happy with my pistol, just needs some tweaking. I did read up a lot though and knew what I was getting into. The pistol cost me $405, free shipping, and $25 for my FFL. So I am more then happy with it. There was NO WAY I was going to spend the $600+ on the new XDM, and IMO, most of that for looks.

 

This is my only and will be my only resin handgun purchase. Next will be either a Taurus 92 or a 1911 full metal pistol. Just something about the resin frame that bugs me. Hope you get things sorted out and good luck. Semper Fi!

Edited June 22, 2010 by sjgusmc21

[kresk 10,063]

I've never been a big fan of the XD's. Made in Croatia, lotsa complaints as previously stated. Hell of an advertising department.

[saigalupo 1]

Yes, I hate how the XDM is about aesthetics for marketing rather than reliability and functionality.

I hear some models are picky about ammo also.

 

A GEN 4 Glock is a much better buy.

 

 

 

 

Thats it in a nutshell.

[saigalupo 1]

I've never been a big fan of the XD's. Made in Croatia, lotsa complaints as previously stated. Hell of an advertising department.

 

 

 

 

Me either but the people who have them talk about them them as a glock killer or something and the gun did feel good in my hand but like you said

they have one hell of an advertising department.

 

Ive been to Croatia while in the military around 00 and I remember it sucked lol. Not a place I would call the best to produce a

pistol that would outpreform Glock.

[saigalupo 1]

Shit, lost everything I was typing...OK, here we go again...

 

Bought a New XD .45 OD Tactical a few months ago from buds. Price was outstanding and a great value. I have took it to the range and put about 250+ rounds through it. No FTE, FTF, nothing. Fired HP, SP, Jacketed, etc., etc. Worked superbly. However, as this is my first 'resin' pistol, there are a few things I don't like, but are easily fixed...

 

1. Don't like the trigger...too mushy and way too much travel. This is a relatively cheap and easy fix. Will do that in the near future.

 

2. FREAK'N MAG RELEASE WAS MADE FOR SUPERMAN! Wow. However, this will also be replaced and will function much better when done.

 

3. Slide release. Don't dislike or like it, but feel the replacement for it is much better. This too will be done in the near future.

 

I haven't qualified with a pistol since around 1998. We qualified with Berreta 9mm. Sweet pistol BTW. The first .45 I qualified with was in Sea School in 1982, and it was a HUGE POS (the old 'shake, rattle, and role' military colts that were old as dirt). Anyway, my first 50 rounds out of my XD at 15 yards, 42 were in the black, the other 7 was near the black, and the last one was the 'pulled that one out of my ass' shot. So I am happy with my pistol, just needs some tweaking. I did read up a lot though and knew what I was getting into. The pistol cost me $405, free shipping, and $25 for my FFL. So I am more then happy with it. There was NO WAY I was going to spend the $600+ on the new XDM, and IMO, most of that for looks.

 

This is my only and will be my only resin handgun purchase. Next will be either a Taurus 92 or a 1911 full metal pistol. Just something about the resin frame that bugs me. Hope you get things sorted out and good luck. Semper Fi!

 

 

One othe thing I did like about it was that it held 13+1 of .45, hard to argue with that. Thats an awesome price for a pistol, especially since the xdm came out and the reg XDs went down.

[chevyman097 2,579]

Actually not the whole gun is made in Croatia, just parts.

 

Edit: Actually Ill just say im not sure about that anymore. It has been many years since I purchased one. I dont know about them now. I believe the uppers used to be built elsewhere and assembled in the US, but that seems it may have changed.

Edited June 22, 2010 by Chevyman097

[yakdung 2,926]

Saigalupo,

 

"Even my cat was like WTF man.." Made my day too funny

 

Thanks for the report. I have also been spoiled by my SIG's. When I have I few extra coins I'm thinking about a SIG P238.

 

 

Be safe,

Yakdung

[GregM1 241]

i have an XD40 SC and like it a lot. I would agree it is not a glock killer but i will say it is equal. The LCI is not anything I care for either. It does sit lower than the front sight, so if it snags, so would your front sight. The mag release wass tough at first but has since lightened some through use (or I just got used to it). It is accurate enough for my needs too. I can hit coke cans @ 15yards w a 3" barrel. Even with a double tap. I went with it over a glock because I prefer the safety system more. Also, the price I paid for the XD made it the best buy in the dollar range. If I had went with the XDm price range, I would have probably got a Berreta or Walther.

Edited June 22, 2010 by GregM1

[saigalupo 1]

Saigalupo,

 

"Even my cat was like WTF man.." Made my day too funny

 

Thanks for the report. I have also been spoiled by my SIG's. When I have I few extra coins I'm thinking about a SIG P238.

 

 

Be safe,

Yakdung

 

 

 

 

Glad I made you laugh.

 

That Sig P238 is very nice I looked at one the other day, my GF wants it for CCW but its too much coin for her. Besides Sigs are not for girls lol.

[saigalupo 1]

i have an XD40 SC and like it a lot. I would agree it is not a glock killer but i will say it is equal. The LCI is not anything I care for either. It does sit lower than the front sight, so if it snags, so would your front sight. The mag release wass tough at first but has since lightened some through use (or I just got used to it). It is accurate enough for my needs too. I can hit coke cans @ 15yards w a 3" barrel. Even with a double tap. I went with it over a glock because I prefer the safety system more. Also, the price I paid for the XD made it the best buy in the dollar range. If I had went with the XDm price range, I would have probably got a Berreta or Walther.

 

 

 

 

Im glad you like yours and that it works for you. True about that front site thing but that lci is not needed. Ive head great things about the

XD40 but my particular xdm was a let down/

[saigalupo 1]

So this afternoon I went in and got a full refund, my gun guy is cool and understanding. I decided to go with a Glock 21sf w/ night sights and pic rail, I wanted one with a glock rail but he had none. Oh well it doesnt bother me much. So for a total of $706 and some change after tax I got a sweet new glock and four extra mags. Im happy now.

Edited June 22, 2010 by saigalupo

[theplastik 67]

So this afternoon I went in and got a full refund, my gun guy is cool and understanding. I decided to go with a Glock 21sf w/ night sights and pic rail, I wanted one with a glock rail but he had none. Oh well it doesnt bother me much. So for a total of $706 and some change after tax I got a sweet new glock and four extra mags. Im happy now.

 

Great choice!

[chevyman097 2,579]

Im glad you are happy with the deal Saiga, nice buy. You cant go wrong with the night sights!

[Heath_h49008 442]

The XDM must be a huge step down from the original XD45.

 

I wasn't really curious about the XDM series until now, but hearing this I want to know what they did. When I purchased mine, the XD45 was second only to the H&K for feel and function. I am not a fan of Glock or Sig.

 

Is the XDM a new series, or just cosmetic changes to the old weapon to sell it to the "Tacticool"?

[Stansplace 414]

I am really surprised to hear this about the XDM. I too have a XD .40 SC and I absolutely love it. It is my primary CCW weapon and I wouldn't trade it for the world. Hell I sleep with the damn thing. I have never been a glock fan, but I am glad you posted about this Saigalupo, I was considering buying one just because of the capacity, but now I will have to look at it very carefully before I do. It's going to be tough to beat my Ruger P90 though, to me that gun is super sexy and is my "go to war" pistol.

 

Maybe I really do need to borrow my brothers glock and go shoot the hell out of it. He swears by it and so do alot of other people I know, maybe it will grow on me.

[saigalupo 1]

The XDM must be a huge step down from the original XD45.

 

I wasn't really curious about the XDM series until now, but hearing this I want to know what they did. When I purchased mine, the XD45 was second only to the H&K for feel and function. I am not a fan of Glock or Sig.

 

Is the XDM a new series, or just cosmetic changes to the old weapon to sell it to the "Tacticool"?

 

 

I think its mostly cosmetic changes but the XDms might hold more rounds.

[saigalupo 1]

I am really surprised to hear this about the XDM. I too have a XD .40 SC and I absolutely love it. It is my primary CCW weapon and I wouldn't trade it for the world. Hell I sleep with the damn thing. I have never been a glock fan, but I am glad you posted about this Saigalupo, I was considering buying one just because of the capacity, but now I will have to look at it very carefully before I do. It's going to be tough to beat my Ruger P90 though, to me that gun is super sexy and is my "go to war" pistol.

 

Maybe I really do need to borrow my brothers glock and go shoot the hell out of it. He swears by it and so do alot of other people I know, maybe it will grow on me.

 

 

 

 

Ive heard nothing but good things about the XDs in 9mm, .40 and .45, also the XDms in 9mm and .40. The XDm .45 has been a year in the making

and it just came out about a month ago. Id think SA should of spent more time on R&D with it than advertising. I would stick with what you

got. Im not a huge Glock fan either but they are simple and I shoot them good and its a high cap .45 so what the hell.

[hobbyshooter 59]

Sig P238: First I'll admit, I'm not a 1911 fan. I have 3 sigs. 2 newer models and one quite old P220 .45 all of which are SA/DA. With that said I would never pocket carry cocked & locked, I would rather not carry a disabled pistol (decocked or not chambered), and If I'm going to WB carry it's going to be 9mm or larger.

 

If the P238 were available SAO or SA/DA, and weighed half as much it would be an interesting pocket pistol. I see the P238 being a halfass way for sig to get quickly into the very popular pocket pistol market.

Edited June 23, 2010 by hobbyshooter

[highoctane 0]

I dunno why there is so much hate on the XDs I personally like em. I put 250 rds in one day through my XDM .40 and it still works like a dream. I bought my XD to stray away from the Glock crowd. Overall its a great pistol but it does have a shitty trigger. But still damn it , great gun.

[blkgunlvr 31]

I've got an XD in .40, an XD in .45 and an XDm in .40. I like the guns - (I also have Glocks) but there are a few "issues" with them. First and biggest in my book is the "proprietary" mags for the XDms - an XDm mag will not lock into a regular XD and a regular XD mag will not even go into the well of an XDm!! The "gritty" mag release is because it is ambidextrous. It is very difficult to push when a full mag is up against the bottom of the slide because of the mag spring/rounds pressure - they are easy release and fall free when the slide is locked back, either side pushed. All of mine are accurate and reliable. The loaded chamber and cocked striker issues are no big deal to me, and I don't do lights, bayonets, lasers or "add ons" to my pistols, so the rail is something I don't even consider. The only thing that really gets my goat is the mag interchangeability issue.

[thehopping1 105]

I was eyeballing these the other day and was curiouse about capacity. 13+1 is nice but my FNP-45 is 15+1 and works great. The only complaint I have heard is the grip is too big, but I'm over it. Just ordered my first Glock the other day and it should be here this week. It's a 9mm but at least I will be able to shoot it more often than my 45's.

[Heath_h49008 442]

My XD45 Tactical is 13+1... why the XDM? I just want a threaded barrel for mine to add on a muffler. (when they become legal in Michigan or when I move that is) I don't see the need for a new model, or any reason to buy it.

 

I have never had a single issue with the mag release, or the trigger, or anything else.

 

Honestly, the XD. and XD compact, and XD tactical in .45acp have so many interchangeable parts, it's like a hobby-kit(long or short slide, long or short frame, long or short mags... all interchangeable, except for short mags into long frame.)

 

I know Glock has the fan club, but especially for the price, warranty and feel... I have a hard time looking past the XDs.

[saigalupo 1]

I know the XD crowd and the Glock crowd like to exchange blows about everything with these two guns but heres my take.

 

I just recently got into Glocks, I was always Sig and HK kinda guy. But After shooting one I said why not?

 

Glocks are proven, XDs are not. Glocks are made in Austria, where I lived for a long time. I KNOW Austrians make very high quality

 

things like the Germans do, Croatians, not so much. I would trust Glock more. In fact I just bought my first .40 cal

 

two days ago, a Glock 35. Love it!

 

That XDM just was not for me, I felt like I was tricked by Springfields marketing department. That and its obvious XD is

 

a Glock wannabe. From now on I will buy only Sig, HK and Glock.

[nalioth 405]

The XDM is aimed at the "race gun" crowd. IPSC and such-like. Super-capacity magazines, features that appeal to the race gunners, etc.

 

 

The original XD is a great pistol, but they dropped the ball on the XDM (as far as doing their market research).

[BrutalGardener 205]

I know the XD crowd and the Glock crowd like to exchange blows about everything with these two guns but heres my take.

 

I just recently got into Glocks, I was always Sig and HK kinda guy. But After shooting one I said why not?

 

Glocks are proven, XDs are not. Glocks are made in Austria, where I lived for a long time. I KNOW Austrians make very high quality

 

things like the Germans do, Croatians, not so much. I would trust Glock more. In fact I just bought my first .40 cal

 

two days ago, a Glock 35. Love it!

 

That XDM just was not for me, I felt like I was tricked by Springfields marketing department. That and its obvious XD is

 

a Glock wannabe. From now on I will buy only Sig, HK and Glock.

 

Croatia is a former republic of Yugoslavia. Second to Slovenia, it's the richest and most "Westernized" one. The Yugos were known for making decent guns and most of their weapons production was in Croatia.

 

Personally, I really like my XD(M) 40. It has the rounds capacity that I need, feels much better in my hand (than a Glock), has never malfunctioned in any way, and I like the features such the extra safety of the grip button, the loaded chamber and striker indicators and the ability to fire with the slide slightly out of battery (as in when weapon is pushed against glass or someone's back). It doesn't seem to be built quite as tough as my Sig, but what is?