Boba Debt 350 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Pure AK-47 Bull Pup Porn It was a good day in the shop I still have a lot of work to do but I think my rail looks a lot better then this I'm sure I can make this work on my S-410 and I might be able to squeeze and S-12 into this set up. I'll eventually add this image and information about the mod to my Bull Pup progress thread but I'm so excited about the way this turned out I thought it deserved it's own thread 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Good job dude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigalupo 1 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Nice! Good job man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kope007 14 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 very nice. i'd like to a pic with the mag inserted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superA 289 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Looks real nice Boba! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrGonZo 157 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 That quad rail looks absolutely bad ass!! Do you plan on putting some kind of vertical fore-grip on it for your front hand? Also, what kind of optics are you going to use? I love it, Keep up the good work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Looks nice. Are you going to put an optic on the rail, flip up AR sights, etc.? What did you have in mind? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Debt 350 Posted July 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that likes this one I already have a broom stick mounted on front. It looks too close to the trigger guard but it isn't. I'm going to use flip up AR sights with an Eotech style optic in the center. I have to make the barrel shroud and paint everything and then I'll post a new picture tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Thats the hottest bullpup I've seen,very nice work! Makes me wish I wasn't a lefty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volkov 318 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 if they all came like that, I'd own one.. Very nice (is the top rail an issue at all when firing it? seems a bit long and potentially eye poking) and just seconding the want for a picture with a mag Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Debt 350 Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 (edited) Here is a shot of it with the mag and the broom stick Here is a shot of my bull pup compared to an original (with the exception of the butt stock pad, which I added) Thats the hottest bullpup I've seen,very nice work! Makes me wish I wasn't a lefty. Thanks Do the right side charging handle mod if they all came like that, I'd own one.. Very nice (is the top rail an issue at all when firing it? seems a bit long and potentially eye poking) and just seconding the want for a picture with a mag I doubt it will be an issue. I have plenty of eye relief. You could build this gun for about $600. You just need the AKU-94 ($400), both UTG Saiga 7.62 and S-12 Rails ($140) a few other misc parts. Do some fancy mods with a table and miter saw combined with a lot of hand filing and a few hours later you have one Edited July 12, 2010 by Boba Debt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BpS12 512 Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Very nice BD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stansplace 414 Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 That is super, super sexy man. That is so cool I will be the first to say that you need to do a step by step thread with pics, parts, prices etc. Hell I may even request a sticky on the how to thread if you do it. I'm not anybody around here, but if I beg nicely....................... Seriously, that is bad ass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Debt 350 Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 That is super, super sexy man. That is so cool I will be the first to say that you need to do a step by step thread with pics, parts, prices etc. Hell I may even request a sticky on the how to thread if you do it. I'm not anybody around here, but if I beg nicely....................... Seriously, that is bad ass. I'm going to document the second one I build 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) Cool project, Boba, but bull-pupped Kalashnikovs still look clumsy and wrong to me. I just don't see how it could be comfortable/natural to fire with the grips so damn close together. Imo, if a weapon is to use a bull-pup design, it should be built from the ground up for exactly that. Otherwise... I am interested to see the final configuration and some video of you shooting it, though. Edited July 13, 2010 by post-apocalyptic 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BpS12 512 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Nice fit BD, PA, It's a lot like shooting a pistol with the rifle butt attachment. Using a Shotgun barrel mount mini tri-rail and a longer rail, I fashioned a fore-rail for my Bullpuped S12 that allowed the fore-grip to be moved farther forward. Gives you more control, but that's on a 19"+ barrel. On the 16"ers, it may not be as necessary. I would agree with you that Bullpups "should be built from the ground up for exactly that." But how many of us can actually afford one of those. The next best option, imho, is a converted AK platform Bullpup. In the long run, the AK BPs may be more reliable anyway. Just my 2 bits, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffetDestroyer 969 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 How is the trigger on the bullpup? That IMO has been the weakest part of doing one. I think it looks pretty badass and with the VFG, it is reminiscent of an AUG. Nice Work Boba Debt! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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BpS12 512 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 From what I've heard, the kit's trigger wire works well with the rifles and smaller shottys. But a small cable and clamps seems to be the ticket for the S12 as the Kit's wire can drag on the mags. BD, did you say you were gonna do flip up BUIS and an optic? I think that would be a rocking combo. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Debt 350 Posted July 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 From what I've heard, the kit's trigger wire works well with the rifles and smaller shottys. But a small cable and clamps seems to be the ticket for the S12 as the Kit's wire can drag on the mags. BD, did you say you were gonna do flip up BUIS and an optic? I think that would be a rocking combo. Keep up the good work. I'm going to do a flip up in the back. I haven't found a low profile front flip up so I will use the low profile FSP already mounted on the rail. I still haven't decided on what optic to use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Pretty neat project BD. It sure streamlined the looks of it but appears your sight plane is now even higher than the stock one. How's the cheekweld when aquiring the sights you pictured? If you could figure out an optic that would give you a good cowitness with some lower profile irons, that would alleviate the higher sight plane. A set of Chaos' new low pro HK style irons would be the shit on your setup! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) Cool project, Boba, but bull-pupped Kalashnikovs still look clumsy and wrong to me. I just don't see how it could be comfortable/natural to fire with the grips so damn close together. I don't think my grips are too close together. It really does have a natural feel to it and is not at all clumsy. Compared to FNH's offerings. I think my grip distance is fairly close to the STG's. I will compare to my buddy's next range day. Sorry to jack your thread Boba! Edited July 15, 2010 by MT Predator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sparky63 46 Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) :super:outstanding!! i wonder what your Brain would look like through an MRI? keep up the great work! Edited July 14, 2010 by sparky63 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Debt 350 Posted July 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) Sorry to jack your thread Boba! No worries MT, your AK bull pup is great and the gas tube rail system looks very solid. Does the optic co-witness with the iron sights? I considered using and Ultimac with the Krebs recover rail but when I added up the cost I determined that I could make a single unified quad rail for about the same amount of money :super:outstanding!! i wonder what your Brain would look like through an MRI? keep up the great work! Thanks.........................I think Edited July 14, 2010 by Boba Debt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) Sorry to jack your thread Boba! No worries MT, your AK bull pup is great and the gas tube rail system looks very solid. Does the optic co-witness with the iron sights? I considered using and Ultimac with the Krebs recover rail but when I added up the cost I determined that I could make a single unified quad rail for about the same amount of money Yup! Mine co-witnesses great. I had to mock it up with the Ultimak and the Aimpoint QRP (no spacer), then measured what I needed to space it with, and thankfully there was 3/4" riser that worked for me which I had to mod a bit to match the Ultimak length plus the clearance needed in the rear. Yours really looks clean though. That bitch would look bad with a set of Cameron's HK sights on your rail. Edited July 15, 2010 by MT Predator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Debt 350 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 ........ That bitch would look bad with a set of Cameron's HK sights on your rail. Are there any optics that will co-wittness with the low profile of his sites? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I think they said in the thread regarding the new Chaos sights was that the sight plane is 1/2 a inch from the top of the rail so an Aimpoint T1 or possibly Jpoint, Fastfire should give a cowitness in the lower 1/3 of the RDS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BronCobraJet 80 Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 Damn, Boba, you have vision and talent! I'm still stuck on how your second pic looks though. An S-12 in that config would be cool, and I've seen where people have added a rail on the dust cover for optics instead of having the front sight sit so high. (no front sight, just an optic, or the side plate to mount an optic) Would anything like that be feasible at all for an S-12? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Debt 350 Posted July 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) Damn, Boba, you have vision and talent! I'm still stuck on how your second pic looks though. An S-12 in that config would be cool, and I've seen where people have added a rail on the dust cover for optics instead of having the front sight sit so high. (no front sight, just an optic, or the side plate to mount an optic) Would anything like that be feasible at all for an S-12? Thanks. Which second picture?? The second picture I posted is of the factory gun. Once I sell my S-12 Race Gun I'll start buying the parts to make an S-12 version with my rail, it shouldn’t be too much harder to do. On this bull pup design the sights have to be high or you can not get proper sight picture. The center of the factory sight system is 3 3/8" from the bore axis, mine is 3 1/2" The difference is that my single rail is very versatile, I can mount hundreds of iron sight/optic combinations. Edited July 16, 2010 by Boba Debt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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