gun show 7.62 fully converted new in box???

[devin_c1 2]

today at the gibralter gun show in mt clemens mi i seen a fully converted , with muzzle brake and feed ramp for reg ak 30 rd mags , ak fore grip the works new in box $475. has any one else heard of fully converteds being imported? ask the owner and he said he got in several some with side folders all were soold but two. he said his wife orders all the guns so he wasnt sure were they came from but he could get more probly in 308? but not in 12 ga?? so does he have a source converting them or r they being imported

[Eric86GT 0]

I'd say he was blowing smoke in your direction. Sounds like he's either converting them himself, or whoever he's getting them from is converting them. As far as I know they can't be imported in pistol grip config and with the ability to accept hi-caps as per 922r. I wonder if Izhmash could legally export pistol-grip Saigas here if they installed the correct number of U.S. parts. Then again, that's probably not very feasible as they'd have to import the U.S. parts to do so in the first place.

 

What's the name of the gun dealer you saw at Gibraltar? I've always wanted to go there for the gun shows.

Edited May 1, 2005 by Eric86GT

[k_dawg 0]

importation of saiga's fall under a seperate restriction of imports from Russia/USSR of only allowing firearms "for sporting purposes only". Not just 922r. Kind of like arms from China [ just not as restrictive ]

[Eric86GT 0]

k_dawg,

 

So with that restriction would it still be illegal for Izhmash to theoretically import non-sporting Saigas with the correct number of U.S. parts?

[Bvamp 604]

hes not importing them. and that isnt a bad price for the converted 150 dollar gun. id buy two.

[monomonk 0]

For a little more you could get a Ruger Mini 14 and put a folding pistol grip stock from Butler Creek on it. Or for less, you could get a real AK. I got a very nice Chinese AK (MAK-90) with Choate dragunov-style stock (quasi pistol grip) for $300 at a gun show.

 

Monomonk

 

hes not importing them. and that isnt a bad price for the converted 150 dollar gun. id buy two.

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[devin_c1 2]

eric ive heard alot good and bad!! about gibralter but i would go againg it was not a great show but a good show almost as good as the one at silver dome . the dealer was firearm exchange llc out of west land mi 734 729 guns ph# . I also thought 475 was a good price but i already have a un converted that i now wish i wouldnt have bought nowing i can get one converted for 475 hindsight is 20/20. I already have a ak but the siaga is much better quality and more accurate and i love the look of the krebs con. thats what the one at the show cold be with a lil work. if i want too shot 223 ill shoot my ar it rocks id just like to have a shorty ak with folding stock so im wondering if i should convert mine or wait to see if they r gonna start selling them converted??? mostly right now i want a shorty 308 im going to call him to see if he can get them or have mine converted cheapenough . i also seen converted siaga polymer 30 & metal 40s at the show custom mods $45 &$55 just thought id let every one now people r starting to get creative hopefuly prices will start to drop if people start making this stuff now some one need to make a good folding stock with pistol grip.

[Eric86GT 0]

Firearm Exchange.... I bought my Steyr M9 pistol through them. Had CDNN transfer it there. They had the cheapest transfer fee of any gun shop I could find close to Livonia. All the others wanted $40. Firearms Exchange charged $25. They seemed like a couple of good guys. I'll probably do my CCW class with them. Is the owner the Asian guy or the older Caucasian guy?

 

It's not too hard to convert your Saiga. It seems like it'll be awhile before the new importer is up and running. I would just go ahead and convert it.

Edited May 2, 2005 by Eric86GT

[blue_bomber 0]

Well I'm new to the AK's, but I just put one in layaway today from firearm exchange, and it looked to be converted, so I asked him and the asian guy said they just come like that, so I left it at that. It looks like its converted and it comes with a 30 round mag; I'm confused, but oh well, I like the way the gun looks.

[Doerdie 0]

Either it's not a Saiga or the guy is confused. When you said it has an AK foregrip I get suspicious. I don't think anyone would stamp Saiga on a Century....do you? Post a pic if you can.