67ratrag 1 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 http://www.deryabin-oruzhie.ru/catalog/?id=207 Have seen this and several variants on the web. No knob to change gas setting. Hinged top cover. Bolt the same? No puck? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 http://www.deryabin-oruzhie.ru/catalog/?id=207 Have seen this and several variants on the web. No knob to change gas setting. Hinged top cover. Bolt the same? No puck? We know it can't be imported into the US due to ATF laws. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brickfield mfg 86 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 They feel we are not responsible to own such things......AgainstTrueFun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhunt 15 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Meh, I think it's neat and all but you can't make half the modifications to it that you could to a Saiga. Although I bet it would work right out of the box Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnaite 43 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 mine is 12C EXP 01 like the one on the picture (no ATF in Europe ) , except that there is no rail and the handguard is a standart one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ufo 20 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Meh, I think it's neat and all but you can't make half the modifications to it that you could to a Saiga. Although I bet it would work right out of the box I don't think so. It's the middle step from saiga to molot vepr. And about weak ammo - changing recoil springs. And modifications? Stock, grip, upperrail for optics, magrelease, trigger settings, forehand, muzzlebrake... etc... Burn in needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skiboatsp 111 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Meh, I think it's neat and all but you can't make half the modifications to it that you could to a Saiga. Although I bet it would work right out of the box I don't think so. It's the middle step from saiga to molot vepr. And about weak ammo - changing recoil springs. And modifications? Stock, grip, upperrail for optics, magrelease, trigger settings, forehand, muzzlebrake... etc... Burn in needed. It's another saiga variant using molot parts gas system self regulating most russian 12's are dssigned to use heavy loads...no need for birdshot in a millitary weapon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobbyshooter 59 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 most russian 12's are dssigned to use heavy loads...no need for birdshot in a millitary weapon You need to watch, or re-watch Alfred Hitchcocks "The Birds"! A Saiga with drums & drums of bird shot would have completely changed the direction of that movie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocinante 100 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 most russian 12's are dssigned to use heavy loads...no need for birdshot in a millitary weapon You need to watch, or re-watch Alfred Hitchcocks "The Birds"! A Saiga with drums & drums of bird shot would have completely changed the direction of that movie. Now thats funny, I don't care who you are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skiboatsp 111 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 most russian 12's are dssigned to use heavy loads...no need for birdshot in a millitary weapon You need to watch, or re-watch Alfred Hitchcocks "The Birds"! A Saiga with drums & drums of bird shot would have completely changed the direction of that movie. Now thats funny, I don't care who you are. I would have really liked to see Suzanne Pleshette toting an s12 around Bodega Bay Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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