Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Just got this in an email from one of my dad's girlfriends...Don't know how true it is or if it's already been all over but .....wow. And here I thought all their lead went into toys.................................... A guy came into the PD the other day to ask a favor. He had a S&W 629 (44 Mag.) that he wanted to dispose of after a mishap at the range. He said there was a loud bang when he tested his new ammo, (Chinese made), and the gun smacked him in the forehead, leaving a nice gash. When the tweety birds cleared, this is what he saw... Bet he never uses Chinese made Ammo again! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Star Arms 2,047 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Don't know if it's a genuine report, but Holy Cow! I have been to China, have observed their manufacturing and safety practices, and I have no reason to doubt the account. Some advice for anyone considering a visit to China: 1: Bring Neosporin, Clorox wipes, plenty of Band - Aids, a personal first aid kit, a respirator, and HAND SANITIZER. 2. Don't get sick in China. If you do, immediately book a flight to Singapore, Taipei, Thailand, or Hong Kong. Trust me on this one, 3. No matter how much your friends tease you, or attempt to convince you otherwise, DON'T share food off a common plate. Guard your plate jealously, and tell American and European Hippie food sharers to go to hell! You WILL get ill if you eat off the common plate, 4. ALL of the Karaoke places are whorehouses...., and all of the girls (and boys) are for sale. Same goes for "legtimate" massage services in major hotels. Don't bite, Chinese hygiene absolutely sucks. 5. Nightclubs, nightlife.... see above. Sorry. 6. If you see someone being chased down in the street and beaten by well dressed Chinese, do not interfere. They are secret police, and they will take exception to interference. 7. You are being watched, listened to, spied upon. Accept it, embrace it, and enjoy your stay. 8. If you meet a kindly Chinese stranger who takes a keen interest in you, and offers to show you around town, they are queer, a scammer, or with Chinese Intelligence, or all of the above. Makes no difference. Be polite, and ignore. 9. Real Chinese soldiers hate you and don't want to have their pictures taken with you, or at all. 10. Chinese have absolutely no health insurance, or safety net and beggars (often) have no hands, feet, legs, and get used to the smell and sight of gangrene. Really. 11. We are absolutely not competing for the same food supply. Be absolutely confident about this. 12.According to firsthand accounts(Dutch Embassy Personnel),public executions for "common crimes" take place in soccer stadiums. The family is billed for ammo costs. Sorry to go on a tangent with this, but I have seen some of this for myself, and have no reason to doubt the rest. Mike 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) It could be Chinese ammo, but my guess is, reloads gone wrong. I'm not aware of any currently available brand ammo that is even made in China, especially .44 mag. And I look at a bunch of ammo websites all the time. If ATG don't have it, who the hell does? There might be Chinese .44mag out there though, who knows. But most likely it looks like someone fucked up reloading with maybe too big of a powder charge or something, and the story got changed somewhere along the lines. Either way cool post and just goes to show, watch out for junk ammo or crap reloads! Who knows EDIT: Forgot to mention, I saw this photo on crazy shit dot com about a year or so ago, so that's another clue that the e-mail may just be a modified story. EDIT2: Just looked it up, yeah, they had it on their site on 12/14/09. I'd post the link but their site's full of popups and shit. Edited September 9, 2010 by Classy Kalashnikov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 All I know is that must have been one big ass bang to rip through both adjoining cylinders and detonate those two rounds also. The bullet didn't move in the left side but holy shit! Whoever was holding on to that was lucky if they didn't get hurt bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Those pictures make my nuts tighten up. (I would have kept the thing, as a reminder of how lucky I was to still have eyesight) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vampire847 9 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 why is there no apparent damage to the barrel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjrivero 50 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 These pictures and this story have been floating around for years. It comes up every 3-6 months over at smith and wesson forums. Generally the consensus is that this was a mishap due to handloaded .44mag ammo that was at least double charged. Chain firing in a revolver is no fun, for sure, but realize that double charges do bad things to guns, not just Magnum Revolvers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magsite20 1,664 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I'm with CK on more likely a bad job reloading. Double charge load are something. Guys lucky it was only a bump on the head and he's still got eyes and hands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Poorly reloaded ammo or poorly made gun. Importation of Chinese ammo has been off the table since the clinton years, so if it's Chinese ammo it's old or illegally imported. There's a similarly blown up revolver at the local range, hanging on the wall. Factory ammunition in a piece of shit no-name revolver, not a .44 mag, just a .38. The guy was surprisingly unhurt, but the damage pattern is almost identical. He gave it to the range to hang up as a reminder to not buy shitty $150 revolvers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 That's crazy shit right there. I've seen something similar to the glock happen. It was a G23, looked to be 2nd gen. But, I've never seen that happen to a revolver. To be honest, I wish there had been video footage, so you could see exactly what was going down as it happened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Damn that Glock erupton looks like it was fucking painful. Looks like another fool tried to use soft lead bullets....ouch. Only issue I ever had with my G-17 and hand loads was a few cases getting caught and were FTL and FTE because they were expanded too far and got stuck in the chamber. In fact those were the only jams I've ever had with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
308SAIGA 55 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Now that is scary..... It looks like 3 rounds discharged, I wonder if ATF is going to arrest him for having a FA weapon without a stamp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 why is there no apparent damage to the barrel? It looks like the explosion didn't make it far enough to damage the barrel as bad as the cylinder. These pictures and this story have been floating around for years. It comes up every 3-6 months over at smith and wesson forums. Generally the consensus is that this was a mishap due to handloaded .44mag ammo that was at least double charged. Chain firing in a revolver is no fun, for sure, but realize that double charges do bad things to guns, not just Magnum Revolvers. Bad things indeed. Those above photos are the ones Glock haters love to post (no, not you) with the "Glocks are hand grenades!!" bullshit. They like to leave out the fact that 99% of those types of photos are due to operator error; super hot reloads or shooting bare lead bullets down the factory Glock barrel. Two things that are specifically frowned upon if they'd bother to read. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 I'd love to get one of these just to put on display at the range I wanna open just so people can see what happens when they do stupid things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead7544 35 Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 I have seen this picture before. a few years ago. The story was from overseas, Europe somewhere. The guy had decided to tumble clean some reloaded ammo. He left the tumbler running for a weekend. The first shot blew the revolver. When the ammo was broken down the powder had turned into dust. I cant confirm any of this but I also dont know of any Chinese 44 Mag ammo. The bullet looks like an XTP. My brother borrowed an ammo box from me to carry to the range. When he brought it back he told me his friend had blown up a S&W M19 with his handloads. Later when I dumped the box out I found half a cylinder. I keep it on my reloading bench to remind me to be careful. His friend admitted he was distracted by his family when he was reloading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjrivero 50 Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 (edited) I have seen this picture before. a few years ago. The story was from overseas, Europe somewhere. The guy had decided to tumble clean some reloaded ammo. He left the tumbler running for a weekend. The first shot blew the revolver. When the ammo was broken down the powder had turned into dust. I cant confirm any of this but I also dont know of any Chinese 44 Mag ammo. The bullet looks like an XTP. My brother borrowed an ammo box from me to carry to the range. When he brought it back he told me his friend had blown up a S&W M19 with his handloads. Later when I dumped the box out I found half a cylinder. I keep it on my reloading bench to remind me to be careful. His friend admitted he was distracted by his family when he was reloading. I don't believe this tumbler explanation either. Here's a link to an experiment for rounds tumbled for 200 hours with microscopic photographs of the powder. Caution: Photo heavy thread. The most probable explanation is that this revolver was the recipient of a Double load, or powder mix up that caused the catastrophic failure. Bottom line: beware of internet chain mythology. Question everything, because half truths are everywhere. Edited September 11, 2010 by rjrivero 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Bottom line: beware of internet chain mythology. Question everything, because half truths are everywhere. The first tell tale sign that an internet story is total bullshit is when the format looks like this. I don't know why, because e-mail formatting has not looked like this in over a decade, but for some reason internet chain e-mails are always written like this. Maybe because they are intended to be read by old people, who still have a Packard Bell 486 with a 640x480 screen resolution. Either way, I am glad they are written like this, because I instantly know that the truncated, poorly formatted lines I am about to read are total bullshit. >> It's even worse >> When they write them like this 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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