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One of my friends wants to get into shooting, but we all know how annoying range costs are, and not everyone has the luxury of living outside city limits on a large property. Thus, one of my friends is interested in setting up a range in his attic. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to even go about doing this? Also, how quiet is subsonic ammo? Say 9mm? Could he shoot it in his attic without getting his neighbors calling the cops on him if he used subsonic bullets? Any help would be appreciated, thanks all!

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One of my friends wants to get into shooting, but we all know how annoying range costs are, and not everyone has the luxury of living outside city limits on a large property.  Thus, one of my friends is interested in setting up a range in his attic.  Does anyone have any suggestions for how to even go about doing this?  Also, how quiet is subsonic ammo?  Say 9mm?  Could he shoot it in his attic without getting his neighbors calling the cops on him if he used subsonic bullets?  Any help would be appreciated, thanks all!

 

 

well the only way to maybe do it would be to sound proof the room set up some kind of bullet trap and add some sort of vent system to get rid of all the lead in the air. But thats highly dangerous and blowing your neighbor's head off is going to cost you more money in the long run on attorney's fees than paying to go to the range is . good luck :killer:

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Subsonic ammo alone still makes a bang but it does not carry very far. When used with a suppressor (which is a big no no) it can be quieter than the snap of your fingers. There are some loads for a .22 which are loaded only with a primer. I have never shot any of them but you might give that a try. I think Aguilla makes them.

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Um, having used a Walther P22 with supressor several times, the "snap of your finger" is well, not correct. It is still fairly loud.

 

The difference is more in the *character* of the sound. In stead of being a sharp crack, its more of a longer/hollow "FOOMPT!!" sound

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I agree with LeadMonkey. I am not seeing many positive reasons to do this.

Having sold Real estate before, this feature could make the home unwanted by the average buyer. Similiar to a large swimming pool that many people do not want. With many states requiring Sellers Disclosure Info Sheets they would have to disclose this lead contaminated room to potential buyers. Does this person want to live there forever?

 

 

Well, if you install a bullet trap, and use only TMJ ammo and have a vent system, there won't be any leading problem.

 

It's still a bad idea though. I thought it was a joke when I first read it.

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Well I can tell that neither you or your friend have fired a pistol indoors. Without a supressor sub sonic ammo in a pistol is loud as hell!!!

 

A air pistol would be the only cost effective way to practice in his attic.

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One of my friends wants to get into shooting, but we all know how annoying range costs are, and not everyone has the luxury of living outside city limits on a large property.  Thus, one of my friends is interested in setting up a range in his attic.  Does anyone have any suggestions for how to even go about doing this?  Also, how quiet is subsonic ammo?  Say 9mm?  Could he shoot it in his attic without getting his neighbors calling the cops on him if he used subsonic bullets?  Any help would be appreciated, thanks all!

 

 

Naaaww. Don't do it. Bad idea. This is how it has become during our plunge into global socialism. For the time being its better to deal with the annoyance of range cost while we still have them.

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Thanks all for the input. I wasn't sure if an in-attic range would be possible, but it definately doesn't sound too feasible. I have shot pistols indoors and unfortunately know how loud it is, but I've only shot at ranges which are essentially enclosed concrete boxed. I was hoping with insulated walls, it would absorb some of the sound wave's impact, and not make it quite as unbearable.

 

However, I've never shot subsonic ammo before in my life. I know with a suppressor it makes a difference, but neither my friend nor I live in an area where suppressors are legal, not to mention the cost of a can is pretty steep when added to the cost of subsonic ammo, and the gun itself. So I'll go with y'all's advice and be grateful that I got it before he made a mistake with the attempt.

 

However, just for my own edification:

1) How much quieter is subsonic ammo?

2) I shoot once a weekend at an indoor range, and I'm assuming that it's vented well. Should there ever be a concern for the recreational shooter about lead poisoning?

 

Thanks all!

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Aren't 9mm rounds always subsonic? I thought I heard that somewhere. Like I said before I have only shot .22 subsonics but It is considerably more quiet, but still makes a good bang. The sound doesn't carry very far though. I'm sure you probbably know already but the idea is not to break the sound barrier thus the name subsonic. The noise you here from a subsonic round is from the gas escaping from the wepon. A regular round makes a bang from the gas escaping and from breaking the sound barrier.

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However, just for my own edification:

1) How much quieter is subsonic ammo?

2) I shoot once a weekend at an indoor range, and I'm assuming that it's vented well.  Should there ever be a concern for the recreational shooter about lead poisoning?

 

Thanks all!

 

 

1) I don't know first hand, but I have heard on UZItalk that with a suppressor, subsonic ammo will be very quiet. Basically you'll hear the action working and the case ejecting. I don't know how it would sound without a suppressor though.

 

2) Ranges seem to have the option of either AC or ventilation. AC means the room is comfortable, but there's nowhere for the fumes to go so there may be a concern about contamination. Presumably they'll be more picky about what type of ammo they allow you to use (prefering TMJ). If it's ventilated, it most likely will be very stuffy in there and rather uncomfortable on hot summer days, but chances of contamination are negligible (as long as their ventilation system is working appropriately). Most ranges I've heard of seem to be leaning toward ventilation.

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What's wrong with going out to the range? I went out yesterday to the state range and shot. It's far but the drive in the country is nice and the air is clean. I know of someone who was shooting in his basement. It's a lot safer than the attic and less likely to hurt the neighbors let alone finding out where the stray shots went during a rainstorm.

 

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If you have ever shot a 25,32,380,or 45 auto pistol you have fired subsonic ammo. Also if you ever shot a 32,38,or 45 revolver you have fired subsonic ammo.

 

 

1- None in a pistol but 22 subsonic gets pretty quiet in a rifle.

2-No

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one point id like to make that either i missed was said already, or hasnt been voiced yet, is powder and lead fumes. dont forget that both of those breathed in are pretty toxic to you, and will ruin your health in the long run.

 

ive shot indoors a lot. get a pellet gun and dont use steel BBs in it inside. always shoot at paper too. you can make a trap VERY easily by taking a piece of decent sheet metal, and making a 45 degree or shallower angled backed box out of it. fill it about 4" with sand (you really need to test the amount in a safe place with your gun to be sure its enough) and clean it out like you would a litter box when you are done or after a lot of shots, as you WILL get ricochets, from different causes. this is possible with a 22 as well, but if you dont know what you are doing, you will put your eye out, or worse, somebody else's. a good pellet gun with pellets makes a really good practice device. it is also better as was said to do this in your basement, not your attic, and if you can find something about 600fps in .177 caliber, you would be far better off...unless you are fortunate and have a massive house that would require a scope to even see the target.

 

you can make the box out of plywood, and just layer the back and inner sides with sheet metal if you use a pellet gun. DO NOT FACE THE BOX OFF ON THE FRONT EDGE WITH METAL!

 

there is nothing wrong with a pellet gun folks.

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as another issue, many cities have laws regarding discharge of a firearm within city limits. Ranges usually have to get a special permit. In addition, many counties and states have regulations pertaining to discharge of a firearm within X feet of a road way.

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