jesse_sanchez 5 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) I purchased the Chaos extended quad rail for my Saiga-12, and needed to remove the rear iron sight to mount it. The instructions state, "Remove rear iron sight by driving it out from the side... If you are having to apply too much force and the sight will not move... you will require a Dremel with a cutoff wheel." I was indeed unable to remove the rear sight with only a hammer, vise, and punch set. Believe me when I say I tried. I pounded on it for 2 hours straight (so to speak). Then, I decided to think outside the box. Instead of using a dremel (which I don't have) I decided to use a simple hand saw. This is the cut I needed to make. After sawing for 5 minutes. After sawing for 10 minutes I was able to tap the little bugger out with very little effort. End result. End result. These are the tools I used. I'll be happy if this can help at least one person. Have a great Air Force day! Edited September 12, 2010 by Dirty88 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldandslow 3 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Nice job. That's what Saigas are all about. Innovation. Or in my case, butcher in haste, weld up the damage at my leisure. File and stone off the weld marks in what seems like forever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 I purchased the Chaos extended quad rail for my Saiga-12, and needed to remove the rear iron sight to mount it. The instructions state, "Remove rear iron sight by driving it out from the side... If you are having to apply too much force and the sight will not move... you will require a Dremel with a cutoff wheel." I was indeed unable to remove the rear sight with only a hammer, vise, and punch set. Believe me when I say I tried. I pounded on it for 2 hours straight (so to speak). Then, I decided to think outside the box. Instead of using a dremel (which I don't have) I decided to use a simple hand saw... ...I'll be happy if this can help at least one person. Have a great Air Force day! Nice "hand tools only" technique. Necessity is the mother of invention. I was able to drive my rear sight out, (to install Krebs irons), with a 5lb shop hammer and a punch, without cutting it. Also, thank you for your service. I'm an AF vet myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crucified 2 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 your tips were greatly appreciated! i banged the hell out of the rear sight trying to remove it and it wouldn't budge! the hacksaw method works great! sure it takes longer than a dremel but there is NO chance for error! thanks to your suggestions i was able to install my Krebs Battle sights with NO effort! Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shadoh 16 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 I have a dremel but thats the same method I used to remove mine when I did it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vbrtrmn 167 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Welcome to the forum, GREAT first post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
epbullen 21 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Nice job! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jesse_sanchez 5 Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Thanks for the positive feedback, guys (and gals if y'all posted)! I really appreciate it. And I'm really happy this helped you, CRUCIFIED (= I knew I had to post this when I couldn't find any easy methods online (could of been that I didn't look hard enough). Nevertheless, I'm happy to help (= Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Welcome to the Forum. Good info and pics to go with it. I am also ex Air Force, thanks for serving. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jekbrown 14 Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 I justed used a hammer and a flat screwdriver. Laid the gun on it's side with a couple t-shirts under it, smacked the sight a couple of times and it started to move... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 (edited) A little tip... if you are having no luck trying to remove the rear sight by using a punch and hammer, try do the same from the other side of the rear sight. Believe it or not these things will move in one direction, but not so much in the other. Edited September 16, 2010 by Jpanzer 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 A little tip... if you are having no luck trying to remove the rear sight by using a punch and hammer, try do the same from the other side of the rear sight. Believe it or not these things will move in one direction, but not so much in the other. +1 This is absolutely true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvhanh20 1,052 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Good job, your S12 looks great! We also have place here that people showcase their S12s, be sure to post pics in there: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=13312 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shadoh 16 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 I tried mine in both directions as I know many of those dovetails are directional. When the punch and hammer feel like your doing more harm than good it was time to get the hacksaw ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gshadley 0 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thanks for the tip! I tried to get mine off with a hammer and drift, but it wouldn't even budge. So, I used a dremel half way and finished with a hack saw. Took a little over 5 minutes as I was constantly checking my depth. Sight gone! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thanks for the tip and pics, start my conversion next weekend, EX Navy, thanks for your service Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheHunterOfSkulls 230 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Definitely a helpful thread for anybody who doesn't have a dremel or doesn't want to use it for this job. I only used a dremel on mine because I have really steady hands and very little patience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sjglaw 1 Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Tried to get mine off with: rubber mallet, then flat screw driver with metal hammer, then metal hammer with wedge-the sucker would not budge, followed the cut diagraham in this thread with a dremel followed by the screw driver with metal hammer and it came off easily. Thanks for the tips. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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