deadon 3 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 If so can you post a pic and tell me if it make the gun louder? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) If so can you post a pic and tell me if it make the gun louder? I don't have one as of yet but I've read that the bolt on: http://store.carolin...iga-308/Detail. Works pretty well for muzzle climb and flash suppression with noise directed forward. I have an FSC hider/brake on my m4 and it's loud as hell only being a .223. The standard birdcage that comes on the m4 isn't terribly load. I have two 74 brakes on my 2 7.62x39's and they aren't bad either(24mmx1.5) Edited November 5, 2010 by AZG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
N4KVE 14 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 If so can you post a pic and tell me if it make the gun louder? I have a 74 style brake on my .308 & it's a noise amplifier. It's a US copy I picked up years ago with 14 mm threads, but it's very loud to shoot indoors. I had it permanently attached to my barrel as it was shortened to 14", & the FSB was pushed back against the gas block. Looks good though. GARY N4VE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paprotective 362 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 I have the DPMS AR10 Miculek Brake on my 21" Saiga 308.. I noticed the recoil kick is less.. But with a 21" bbl I don't know about the sound that comes from a 16" like you have. Rumor has it with 16", tables left/right will hate you more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 I use a modded SVD FH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deussne 38 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 I use a modded SVD FH. Thats crazy when your Flash hider/sight cost almost as much as the rifle. :-P Just kidding. Sweet looking saiga. One of these days I'll get myself an SVD sight/hider and maybe buy another saiga to use it on lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I use a modded SVD FH. Thats crazy when your Flash hider/sight cost almost as much as the rifle. :-P Just kidding. Sweet looking saiga. One of these days I'll get myself an SVD sight/hider and maybe buy another saiga to use it on lol. Got that one some years ago when the price wasn't quite as stupid as they are now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 (edited) Here you go fella! Dont really notice an increase in noise, just a decrease in recoil. Edited November 2, 2010 by AZG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Here you go fella! Dont really notice an increase in noise, just a decrease in recoil. Very nice. Is it threaded 24mm x 1.5? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Here you go fella! Dont really notice an increase in noise, just a decrease in recoil. Very nice. Is it threaded 24mm x 1.5? Why yes it is. Thanks. Specs: Dinzag: FCG modified OD green Kvar ware modified gas tube 74 FSB bolt on lower HG retainer AK103.com 74 Brake made for 308 modified cleaning rod MD Malot Grip and a sissy butt pad works great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bolster 15 Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 I am in the middle of my Saiga 308 conversion now. Just ordered a 5/8 x 24 die and TAT from Dinzag. Removing the FSB and boring it wasn't a lot of trouble. My barrel is .670, but I am going to carefully turn it down myself. I'm planning on using a muzzle brake made by Robinson Armament, which they offer on their 6.8 and 7.62 x 39 XCR barrels. I remember seeing a similar brake on VEPRs that came from RA. Is it generally agreed that you only need to thread about 5/8 of the barrel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XXasdf 29 Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 (edited) FSC30 from primary weapon systems, works great in reducing muzzle climb but makes it very loud. I have it on my 16" and I get dirty looks from people at the other tables at the range. Got mine installed by tac47 industries and when keith told me it dropped the recoil to 7.62x39 levels I couldn't believe it until I tried it out myself. Edited for close up pic of brake. Edited November 5, 2010 by XXasdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
getitat 609 Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Hello I use the same brake/semi-hider on at least a couple of my 16" S-.308's and I like 'em a lot. Don't know how much flash hidin' takes place, but I do think they're effective at reducing muzzle climb and recoil. To hell with those sissies with less-than-adequate hearing protection at the range anyway. JMHO.... -guido FSC30 from primary weapon systems, works great in reducing muzzle climb but makes it very loud. I have it on my 16" and I get dirty looks from people at the other tables at the range. Got mine installed by tac47 industries and when keith told me it dropped the recoil to 7.62x39 levels I couldn't believe it until I tried it out myself. Edited for close up pic of brake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 I have the FSC30, but have been using a Yankee Hill Machine Phantom flash hider for the hunting season, because I don't want to deafen my hunting partners. I'll be trying out the FSC30 at the range this Sunday for the first time. Looking forward to seeing just how effective and loud this mean-looking thing is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bolster 15 Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 I have the FSC30, but have been using a Yankee Hill Machine Phantom flash hider for the hunting season, because I don't want to deafen my hunting partners. I'll be trying out the FSC30 at the range this Sunday for the first time. Looking forward to seeing just how effective and loud this mean-looking thing is. The .308 Phantom is pretty big, isn't it? For a flash hider, it seems like they could have made it similar in size to the 1/2 x 28 versions for 5.56. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 I have the FSC30, but have been using a Yankee Hill Machine Phantom flash hider for the hunting season, because I don't want to deafen my hunting partners. I'll be trying out the FSC30 at the range this Sunday for the first time. Looking forward to seeing just how effective and loud this mean-looking thing is. The .308 Phantom is pretty big, isn't it? For a flash hider, it seems like they could have made it similar in size to the 1/2 x 28 versions for 5.56. Yeah. Big and heavy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bolster 15 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 I have the FSC30, but have been using a Yankee Hill Machine Phantom flash hider for the hunting season, because I don't want to deafen my hunting partners. I'll be trying out the FSC30 at the range this Sunday for the first time. Looking forward to seeing just how effective and loud this mean-looking thing is. The .308 Phantom is pretty big, isn't it? For a flash hider, it seems like they could have made it similar in size to the 1/2 x 28 versions for 5.56. Yeah. Big and heavy. Probably no bigger than the AK-74 brake, but for some reason I think the AK-74's brake is acceptable. On my 6.8 and 308 AR's, I have run several hiders and brakes, but I avoided the phantom because it made already large guns that much longer. I have a A2-style flash hider that seems to work well on 6.8 and .308 16" barrels. I may stick that on my Saiga .308 at some point. I still haven't even shot it yet, but I remember my 7.62 x 39 Saiga kicking significantly harder than I expected, which was fixed by a bulgy 24 x 1.5 FSB and K-var AK-74 style brake. I got that gun all AK-103'd (except no side folder) and then Arsenal started releasing the factory converted Saiga's. Mine was no longer special. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) Tried the FSC30 for the first time today. Wow! Very impressed. Recoil and muzzle climb does seem to be reduced to 7.62x39 mm weapon without a muzzle attachment levels. I didn't find it to be very loud when shooting the weapon - only when standing next to someone else shooting it. I'll take more detailed pics and make videos later. Even the little Russian girl I took shooting commented that the recoil was mild for such a "big gun": Edited November 7, 2010 by SpetsnazGRU 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paprotective 362 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 When I bought the DPMS the only review I had 'heard' was that people on the left/right may get annoyed as the gases vent that way.. Your brake is very similar with 3 slots on the left/right.. Congrats.. the recoil KICK is dimished on mine IMHO too.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I cut my 22" barrel back to 16" and recrowned / threaded it for an adapter so I could use this 22mm 74 brake (brake was opened up a little). It shoots great and not that much louder from what I can tell. The brake works great! Thanks dinzag for the parts and the custom work he did on my FSB. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 When I bought the DPMS the only review I had 'heard' was that people on the left/right may get annoyed as the gases vent that way.. Your brake is very similar with 3 slots on the left/right.. Congrats.. the recoil KICK is dimished on mine IMHO too.. That being said, I dont think the noise issue should really be a problem reguardless if whomever is using proper hearing protecting. I just remember feeling the pressure when I first fired it on my .223, Great Brake/Hider Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kilovictor 0 Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 I just got the FSC30 put on my DPMS as well, can't wait to try it out this weekend. I'll bring back the details Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sunset_Va 2 Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 I cut my 22" barrel back to 16" and recrowned / threaded it for an adapter so I could use this 22mm 74 brake (brake was opened up a little). It shoots great and not that much louder from what I can tell. The brake works great! Thanks dinzag for the parts and the custom work he did on my FSB. That is a nice rifle. I am thinking of cutting my 21" barrel to 18" and doing same brake and sight work. Very nice rifle . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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