shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 (edited) I just received my new and improved Saiga-12 "Mk. 3" back from Lone Star Arms. This gun is now "done", as far as I'm concerned. I'll probably buy a couple more IZ-109s for future builds, but this one is pretty damned perfect, (she's short, has reduced recoil, relatively light, and is completely reliable), for two-legged threat elimination... More details on exactly what work was done this time 'round are available here. Edited November 13, 2010 by post-apocalyptic 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 optics? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 optics? The Burris FastFire II looks pretty good, but I haven't bought anything yet. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Looks great! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dannyfantasy2000 68 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Not gonna lie, that's the best Saiga 12 I've seen in a while. Lone Star Arms is right down the street from me, it's really tempting. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvhanh20 1,052 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Looks great, Man that breaks look massive heavy, whats the weight on that? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnaite 43 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I've ever seen this 8rds mag really nice ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swells08 128 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 (edited) Will that break/breech interfere with the disperstion of the buckshot?...I am not positive about how quickly the rounds expand...just curious since I see these on shotguns so I assume the pattern in tight enough out to at least 1 foot...btw that thing looks totally bad ass! Edited November 13, 2010 by DJ Big Dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 (edited) Looks great, Man that breaks look massive heavy, whats the weight on that? The Tromix Monster Brake ain't light, (~12.6 oz), but that's hardly suprising. It's machined from solid bar stock. Of course, it replaced ~6" of barrel, a Krebs FSB, and a Polychoke, the combined weight of which I'm not sure of. Edited November 13, 2010 by post-apocalyptic 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Where did you buy that magazine from? I want one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raymundo 4 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Mike did the bolt differently this time. It looks good like fish scales. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RABIDFOX50 6 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 That is a sexy beast.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Nice! Having that brake take up so much previous barrel space gives it a very SBR'ish look to it. I like it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Not gonna lie, that's the best Saiga 12 I've seen in a while. Lone Star Arms is right down the street from me, it's really tempting. you wont be sorry. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
farmdog 12 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Very nice, "monster" brake is a good name for that brake. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fumes 84 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 It looks badass for sure PA, now that you got it back will you measure the LOP for me? From the end of the receiver to the end of the butt. I've got 10 1/4 if I hook a tape on the hinge an 1/8 more if I hook it on the block, so I'm guessing you have an inch longer LOP. I cut mine and I cut mine and it's still too short. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Will that break/breech interfere with the disperstion of the buckshot?... Short answer: no. The Monster Brake is ~5.8" long. Buckshot doesn't spread that quickly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Where did you buy that magazine from? I want one! That's an 8-rnd Izhmash mag. The wonderful clusterfuck of an unconstitutional agency known as the BATFE does not consider them "sporting", (which has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment of course ), so they don't allow Russia to export them to the US in any real numbers, creating artificial rarity. If/when you find them for sale, they're almost always from private individuals, and they command a premium price, (to put it lightly). They usually go for ~$140 each, on the rare occasion that you find any for sale at all. The one I own I acquired by trading forum member Midnaite one of my MD20's in exchange. Good luck finding one, (and more importantly, not getting raped on the price). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swells08 128 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Will that break/breech interfere with the disperstion of the buckshot?... Short answer: no. The Monster Brake is ~5.8" long. Buckshot doesn't spread that quickly. Thanks for the info just curious... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 (edited) Will that break/breech interfere with the disperstion of the buckshot?... Short answer: no. The Monster Brake is ~5.8" long. Buckshot doesn't spread that quickly. Thanks for the info just curious... You're welcome, of course, man. Edited November 14, 2010 by post-apocalyptic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Nice! Having that brake take up so much previous barrel space gives it a very SBR'ish look to it. I like it. You mean a SBS'ish look? Yeah, I agree. My S-12 is funtionally a SBS, (~13" factory barrel left), with a silver soldered Tromix Monster Brake to bring her up to >18". As such, she has been tuned to reliably cycle everything down to Winchester "universal" birdshot, with a slightly modified, (polished), OEM factory gas plug and puck. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 PA, You already know how I feel about the stock , but the rest of it looks great Mike dun good. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 (edited) PA, You already know how I feel about the stock , but the rest of it looks great Mike dun good. Yeah, I already know you hate the stock. Too utilitarian for you, I guess. I may still have one of the Russian poly folders I bought installed on this gun, but the current stock works so damn well, (Mike removed the "wiggle" from my Ace push-button folder; I didn't even ask him to, he just saw something that could be improved and did it), that it's a tough decision. For now, that "ugly" lightweight stock actually functions quite well. Edited November 15, 2010 by post-apocalyptic 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plan.B 7 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Nice weapon PA 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vustah 4 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 That gun is one sexy beast!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Nice! Having that brake take up so much previous barrel space gives it a very SBR'ish look to it. I like it. You mean a SBS'ish look? Yeah, I agree. My S-12 is funtionally a SBS, (~13" factory barrel left), with a silver soldered Tromix Monster Brake to bring her up to >18". As such, she has been tuned to reliably cycle everything down to Winchester "universal" birdshot, with a slightly modified, (polished), OEM factory gas plug and puck. Yeah, SBS-ish. Apparently had a brainfart. Did the barrel-chop induce the need for a gas system tweak, even though it has a brake in place to take up that barrel space? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Looks beautiful and I love what they do with stock forends. "They" is Mike. By "forends", I assume you mean the factory handguard, and I agree. It's so much improved, (and light), that I use it instead of the Chaos tri-rail I own. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Nice! Having that brake take up so much previous barrel space gives it a very SBR'ish look to it. I like it. You mean a SBS'ish look? Yeah, I agree. My S-12 is funtionally a SBS, (~13" factory barrel left), with a silver soldered Tromix Monster Brake to bring her up to >18". As such, she has been tuned to reliably cycle everything down to Winchester "universal" birdshot, with a slightly modified, (polished), OEM factory gas plug and puck. Yeah, SBS-ish. Apparently had a brainfart. Did the barrel-chop induce the need for a gas system tweak, even though it has a brake in place to take up that barrel space? Yes, the "barrel-chop" induced the need for a gas system tweak. The muzzle brake is designed to reduce recoi, (directly bleeding off gasses), rather than containing and amplifying the effect, as a ~6" longer barrel would. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 It looks badass for sure PA, now that you got it back will you measure the LOP for me? From the end of the receiver to the end of the butt. I've got 10 1/4 if I hook a tape on the hinge an 1/8 more if I hook it on the block, so I'm guessing you have an inch longer LOP. I cut mine and I cut mine and it's still too short. From the end of the receiver to the end of the fattest part of the 1" Ace recoil pad, it's ~11.25". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fumes 84 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 It looks badass for sure PA, now that you got it back will you measure the LOP for me? From the end of the receiver to the end of the butt. I've got 10 1/4 if I hook a tape on the hinge an 1/8 more if I hook it on the block, so I'm guessing you have an inch longer LOP. I cut mine and I cut mine and it's still too short. From the end of the receiver to the end of the fattest part of the 1" Ace recoil pad, it's ~11.25". Cool thanks mang!, thats what I thought. I think if I get a new tube and cut mine right this time it'll keep my giant nose outta the hinge and still keep the butt from catching my arm pit.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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