theboz 6 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 any clue on a rough release date? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mgconnor13 206 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) It actually looks pretty nice. I'm interested how the double feed tubes work. Hard to believe some one actually may have found a way to improve the good old pump gun. Edited January 3, 2011 by Rusty truck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XdamagedX 248 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 kinda crazy how a company that always seemed to be compared to jennings and hi-point is maturing into something that has anticipated releases for it's firearms 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Saving up starting now. Gutta have one of these. Was gunna do a saiga 12. But this thing will eat the bulk pack right outa box!!! Probably gunna be a huge wait on them if it's like anything else kel tec though. Apples and oranges... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L5K 162 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 I am amazed. Someone has actually come out with a design that is functional first, then tacticool second. I MUST KNOW THE PRICE! This will probably replace the Sig 556 as my next purchase....I'll never own a 5.56 rifle at this rate... Check out the Sig 516 and 716. The ONLY AR's I'd ever buy. Yeah I've seen these, but I like the 556 a lot better. More AK than AR. The carrier and bolt are straight up copies almost. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 It actually looks pretty nice. I'm interested how the double feed tubes work. Hard to believe some one actually may have found a way to improve the good old pump gun. Probably some sort of selector lever to switch between tubes or something that activates the full tube once the first is emptied. Doubtful that it feeds sequentially. I'm just speculating of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 if you look real close on the pics you wiil see a selecter switch to switch between mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 If I can pick one of these for less than $800 I'm all over it!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Saving up starting now. Gutta have one of these. Was gunna do a saiga 12. But this thing will eat the bulk pack right outa box!!! Probably gunna be a huge wait on them if it's like anything else kel tec though. Lets hope it doesn't take as long as the PMR-30 saga did... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BpS12 512 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 It's cool, but I'm guessing NO tactical reloads. Looks like once your 14rds are gone, you better have a back up. I don't see why they can't just make an actual 12ga. bullpup. They seem to have several bullpuped rifles. When they do that, I'll be interested/impressed. Till then I'll stick with my Bp'd S12. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Debt 350 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 It's cool, but I'm guessing NO tactical reloads. Looks like once your 14rds are gone, you better have a back up. I don't see why they can't just make an actual 12ga. bullpup. They seem to have several bullpuped rifles. When they do that, I'll be interested/impressed. Till then I'll stick with my Bp'd S12. Why do you think this can't be tactically re-loaded?? What do you mean by that? I don't see why you just couldn't cram more rounds in the tubes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 It's cool, but I'm guessing NO tactical reloads. Looks like once your 14rds are gone, you better have a back up. I don't see why they can't just make an actual 12ga. bullpup. They seem to have several bullpuped rifles. When they do that, I'll be interested/impressed. Till then I'll stick with my Bp'd S12. Why do you think this can't be tactically re-loaded?? What do you mean by that? I don't see why you just couldn't cram more rounds in the tubes. he refering to the fact that its bottom ejected. without a closer look at the action it would be hard to determin if you could just drop a round in the chamber, while the slides back. its a null point for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 A little more info here: KSG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L5K 162 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 It's cool, but I'm guessing NO tactical reloads. Looks like once your 14rds are gone, you better have a back up. I don't see why they can't just make an actual 12ga. bullpup. They seem to have several bullpuped rifles. When they do that, I'll be interested/impressed. Till then I'll stick with my Bp'd S12. Why do you think this can't be tactically re-loaded?? What do you mean by that? I don't see why you just couldn't cram more rounds in the tubes. he refering to the fact that its bottom ejected. without a closer look at the action it would be hard to determin if you could just drop a round in the chamber, while the slides back. its a null point for me. IMO a tactical reload on a shotgun is when you top off the tube without emptying it. Just like on a rifle. Change the mag before it's completely empty, still one in the chamber. To me if the chamber and magazine is empty and I need to shoot NOW it's time to switch to the pistol. A full pistol magazine is better than a single shotgun shell dropped in the chamber. This goes for any long gun. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Just saw another thread on this on another board...........and someone said they heard it's going to be priced at around $550. But they have nothing backing it up, so take that for what it's worth. http://carolinashootersforum.com/showthread.php?t=91468 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McabanissII 2 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=5659&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=KSGFacebookSocial010310 Yeah gotta put this on the list with the PMR-30 which i havent gotten yet cause no one has them..lol!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L5K 162 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Just saw another thread on this on another board...........and someone said they heard it's going to be priced at around $550. But they have nothing backing it up, so take that for what it's worth. http://carolinashootersforum.com/showthread.php?t=91468 I have read at multiple places that the "word" is that you'll be able to get two of these for the price of a RFB. So I'd imagine they'll be about 700. Which, in my opinion, isn't too bad on something brand spanking new that isn't a clone of an AR. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 This thing looks like every other abortion George Kellgren puts out. MAYBE this unit won't melt/misfire/break like the rest of kel tec's piles of shit, but I doubt it. Anyone who buys this is should be questioned for sanity. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Pretty cool, but I wish it was semiauto. I don't care for pump guns. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Too cool. I'll be adding it to the other Kel-Tec weapons we own. Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zeroselect 3 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 i don't have a pump shotgun yet and i think this will fill this gap. Orignally i was going to buy a remington 870 or a mossberg 500 and mod it but this looks out of box ready. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffetDestroyer 969 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 This thing looks like every other abortion George Kellgren puts out. MAYBE this unit won't melt/misfire/break like the rest of kel tec's piles of shit, but I doubt it. Anyone who buys this is should be questioned for sanity. Do you have a first hand experience with a Kel Tec melting, misfiring and breaking in your hand? I own and have owned a lot of "plastic" guns and none of them ever melted or broke on me (and very rarely do I have a misfire with anything that isn't ammo related). I have noticed that a lot of internet Kel Tec shit-talkers on other forums feel that because Kel Tec's guns don't cost $2,500+, then they can't be any good. Obviously if they went with the Noveske, LWRCI, or ACR marketing method where less than 5% of the gun buying market can actually afford the product, then they would be hailed as the second coming of awesomeness. Kel Tec in my experience stands by their stuff and while not top tier is very, very good for the money. The accuracy and durability of Kel Tec has been awesome in my experience for firearms of comparative style. Their $400 .223 is as accurate or more accurate than any AR under 10 pounds and (gasp) it is piston operated for less than $1,500! Their PLR 22 is a lot of fun and much more accurate than my 10/22's with long barrels. Ruger pretty much took a Kel Tec, put their name on it and called it the LCP! Not bad for a company that only puts out "abortions"! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffian72 548 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Let's not this become a crap on a weapon manufacturer thread. Info, when on the market, and test results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 So this wont be a SBS will it?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PVT Pablo 25 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) So this wont be a SBS will it?? Nope, barrel length is at least 18'' and OAL is at least 26''. Its a bullpup so thats why it looks so short. The thing im wondering is if you drain one tube will it switch for you, or do you have to manually switch it. I know theres a switch, but it would be cool if it went to the other tube automatically when one went dry. Edited January 4, 2011 by PVT Pablo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sidewinderl 43 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Most questions you have will be answered here: http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1294097299 No set price yet...hope the ~$600 number people keep throwing around isn't too optimistic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 From the pistol grip to the muzzle, it looks like the shotgun from Halo... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darko 42 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 ... this looks out of box ready. clairvoyant? lets hope so, but I'll wait until its been on the market for a while before I make any assumptions... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Let's not this become a crap on a weapon manufacturer thread. Info, when on the market, and test results. Don't be an asshole. They have put out shitty products in the past. For safety sake, the general public should be aware of this. This thing looks like every other abortion George Kellgren puts out. MAYBE this unit won't melt/misfire/break like the rest of kel tec's piles of shit, but I doubt it. Anyone who buys this is should be questioned for sanity. Do you have a first hand experience with a Kel Tec melting, misfiring and breaking in your hand? I own and have owned a lot of "plastic" guns and none of them ever melted or broke on me (and very rarely do I have a misfire with anything that isn't ammo related). blah blah blah... I made bad decisions buying bubba-d POS guns blah blah blah Not bad for a company that only puts out "abortions"! Actually, there is this new thing called a search engine and you dont have to have a degree, or even be smarter than a fucking 3rd grader to use it. Lets go down the list of Kel Tec failures.... just from the first page or so of results I found using the website "Google"... 1: A guy fires 100 rounds through his PLR-16 and MELTS his plastic handguards: http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1198280250/20 http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1165261820 http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1165295638 2: Here are several threads related to misfiring of several of their Pieces of shit "products". http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1289261222 http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3435507 http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?p=2720736 3: Here are some links to broken firing pins, broken springs broken pieces from several of their Piece of shit "Products" http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1268846215 http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215666 http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?42919-KelTec-P3AT-broken-mainspring Finally, I encourage you to (in the future) make better decisions with your money. Buying one of Kel Tec's "products" is putting your life and the lives of those around you at risk. Plane and simple. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scattergun10 125 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Just came across a pic of KelTecs new shotgun. I think a Neostead was its father. I don't usually care for anything bullpup, but I'm kinda diggin' this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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