frick 3 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Too shitty out to test one yet, but..... 1) Snapped in without fitting, even a bit loose compared to an MD 20. 2) Size. Plain and simple a quarter the size of the MD20, comes down to about the center point of the 20 round drum in depth from the bottom of the gun. 3) Havent shot it yet, but, if it functions, there is no way, I would consider the bigger 20, any 20 round drum BTW, superior to this, except in shear firepower. The immense size of the 20 rounders is just too much, too unwieldy, especially, if you had to use it in a tight environment, especially a vehicle. 4) Compared to even 8 round factory mags, this thing is small, let alone the US 10 and especially 12 round stick mags. Got them for 66 bucks each, with shipping, not as dollar savvy as an MD per round, but, gotta weigh the usability factor, and I like the metal insert in the front hook/tab where it fits in the receiver. Seems like a simple fix, for a potential problem with any non metal reinforced mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I am thinking about getting one of these, and would love to hear more feedback on the quality/reliability from those who already own them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 had 2. prefer the 20 rnders. just my 2 cents. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CavScout888 0 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Ah, wtf, it didn't post. FFS, here I go again, but shorter this time... Bought a 12rd promag drum. I would feel a lot better if it was a drum from MD but decided against 20. I'm putting an MD20 on my list for the future. Double stacks and, if Mike makes any, 12 round drums from MD are instant buys. I hope to hell I'm lucky on the Promag drum. It's not here yet, but when it is I'll take it to the range. Noted on not dropping it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 the 2 i had worked great. i just prefer the 20 rnders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cellsworth 21 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I have one that I have been using in my Red Jacket SBS. It needed to be cycled a few times to become fully reliable, but it works fine now. In my opinion a larger drum, although fun, would be too bulky for my purposes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 4) Compared to even 8 round factory mags, this thing is small Well, load that bitch up with 3" magnum 15 pellet .00 buck & shoot us a video. Oh, wait..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 4) Compared to even 8 round factory mags, this thing is small Well, load that bitch up with 3" magnum 15 pellet .00 buck & shoot us a video. Oh, wait..... nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jdhonda810 29 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 4) Compared to even 8 round factory mags, this thing is small Well, load that bitch up with 3" magnum 15 pellet .00 buck & shoot us a video. Oh, wait..... Will these take 3"? Secondly, will they feed the weight? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 4) Compared to even 8 round factory mags, this thing is small Well, load that bitch up with 3" magnum 15 pellet .00 buck & shoot us a video. Oh, wait..... Will these take 3"? Secondly, will they feed the weight? no, thats why its funny. c'mon man. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frick 3 Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 3" is not that big of concern for me. We don't have many zombies in Western PA, they have all left for warmer, non union states, with better brain eating prospects, so, 2 3/4" shells with reduced pellet loads should be more than fine. On a 2nd note, I have tried to keep my reviews "BASH FREE", and on topic, as to what observations, and characteristics whatever it is, just that. Not saying one product is better than the other, or, that one product is best for all, no one, or any one for that matter. Use this if it helps, print it and wipe your ass with it if it doesn't, it is, what it is.... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slug-O 6 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Video.... I'll give you videos!!!! Hello boys... I'm back!!!! http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b96/leondana/3bed7e10.mp4 http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b96/leondana/81ea0d0a.mp4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
africamagical 5 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Video.... I'll give you videos!!!! Hello boys... I'm back!!!! http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b96/leondana/3bed7e10.mp4 http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b96/leondana/81ea0d0a.mp4 I have heard good things about those drums, but promag has a lot of ground to make up for how shitty their stick mags are before i would ever consider giving them my $ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frick 3 Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Thats disgusting.....I mean the fact that we can't see if you hit anything in the video's..... Anyone else notice some rounds had huge fireballs, others almost nothing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colon Terminus 61 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Thats disgusting.....I mean the fact that we can't see if you hit anything in the video's..... Anyone else notice some rounds had huge fireballs, others almost nothing? The amount of fireball you see in a video is entirely dependent upon the shutter speed of the camera and the precise moment in the Saiga's cycle when the shutter is tripped. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msrdiver 42 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 if you had to use it in a tight environment, especially a vehicle. Seriously, floor the pedal and get out of range of possible return fire. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slug-O 6 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Video.... I'll give you videos!!!! Hello boys... I'm back!!!! http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b96/leondana/3bed7e10.mp4 http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b96/leondana/81ea0d0a.mp4 I have heard good things about those drums, but promag has a lot of ground to make up for how shitty their stick mags are before i would ever consider giving them my $ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slug-O 6 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Oh I hear you..... I have 3 small drums and 1 big drum and all work flawless.. My paperwork is approved for my suppressor so I can take it home next week... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Oh I hear you..... I have 3 small drums and 1 big drum and all work flawless.. My paperwork is approved for my suppressor so I can take it home next week... Slugo-o, is that tiny Drum a 12 rounder? Either you have large hands or those Drums are realy small. Cool Video. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Parson Julabee Jones 32 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Shucks! After seeing the video, I'd much rather have that set-up than the new Kel-Tec pump with two magazines, etc. Probably cost less in the long run too I guess? PJJ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 People who don't own, have never tried, or possibly even handled (or seen) a promag drum in real life, have NO business giving advice on them if all they have is BS attitude towards other promags, that happened to be pieces of shit. They finally did something right with these drums and they DO work. People who don't like promags don't have to buy them. People who have sense enough to read and look at videos for themselves, and have an open mind, shouldn't feel afraid to try a promag drum because of what some promag stick mag haters, who have NO actual experience with the drums, say from behind a keyboard. Besides...the 20 round drums are too big an unwieldy to effectively use in a bullpup 12 (unless you pose in some silly uncomfortable shooting position), or just too big for other reasons in some people's opinions. For now, until Chaos comes out with their smaller drums, promag is the only company making a 10 or 12 round drum for the S-12. I have a 20 rd promag drum too, and it has never failed...ever. It's had well over a thousand rounds run through it in at least a dozen different S-12s now. Believe what you want. Listen to people who have actually tried them though. There are many many posts on this forum from happy promag drum owners. BTW there are currently no drums mass produced by anyone that will hold 3" magnums. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Bob 2 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I have a pic of one posted on the fridge with note to wife "Want for Birthday". Well actually I have to try the 10 rounder being under the oppression of NYS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PYRO 44 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) I have 3 of the Promag 12 round drums, 3 of the MD20 drums (yes, they are legal in Hawaii), and a bunch of long Surefire stick mags, that I eventually cut down to 8 rounders because of thier length & weight getting in the way of handling. Out of what I have, I use the 12 round drums the most. They function good right out of the box and can be 100% with only a little fine tuning, are not too heavy and provide a nice balance to the weapon. I didn't like how loose they fit, so I added some JB Weld to the front lip and filed it down, they fit nice and tight for the first 50 or so drum loads. Now the JB weld is wearing thin and they have become loose again. Even though they wiggle a little bit, they work fine, I just like them to fit tighter. I may try to add a metal shim to the lip this time. I did also take them apart and played with the spring tension. I also like the MD20's for playing around at the range, but would not care to walk any distances with that much bulk on the weapon, I prefer to carry the 12 round drums( in canteen pouches on a shoulder strap) and the 8 round sticks. Nothing wrong with any of them, I just have different uses for different tools. Edited January 14, 2011 by PYRO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mgconnor13 206 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I have a 12rnd Promag drum and it runs great. Good capacity for the size it is. I use it way more then my 10rnd mags or my MD 20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slug-O 6 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 My videos are with 12 round drums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saiga zombie 0 Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 finally got the 12 round promag drum love the size but is really loose locked in and lost a big chunk of plastic of the front lip when I first tried to fit it...I will see what happens when I try it out...now comparing the md and promag my vote is md drum just wished they had a 12 round compact...just my 2 cents Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RABIDFOX50 6 Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I have two of the Promag 12 rnd drums. The first one I purchased has run in my S12 100% and the only fitting that was needed was a very light filing on either side of the mag stem. It locks in solid and no wobble. My second I recently purchased and it fit my S12 without any filing. It does have a very slight wobble but I do not think it will be and issue. I have cycled some rounds through it to which none hung up. I'm waiting on my MD20 so once I get it, I am going to the range to test all of them. I am sure there will be no issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shadoh 16 Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 So you can run the S&B ammo in a Promag 20 round drum? Thats always kinda erked me about my MD20. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnInNH 0 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I am waiting on the double stack mags. I HOPE the RIO slugs and buck with the roll crimp fit. The AGP 10 rounds are nice but a tad long. I have a MD-20 which runs fine.. But it is BIG and really is for "play" I would consider a compact double stack THE answer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XXasdf 29 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I have a pic of one posted on the fridge with note to wife "Want for Birthday". Well actually I have to try the 10 rounder being under the oppression of NYS. Careful with that one bob, I hear some LEOs in NY see these as rotary feed devices akin to the street sweeper which might lead to some trouble down the line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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