gulag 0 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) Guys I have a Factory 4 port(Diamond Pattern, no clue what size) unconverted Saiga-12 that cycles cheap bulk ammo absolutely perfectly on gas setting 1. No jams or stovepipes or FTF ever. Bought it from a friend for $400. Is this normal??? Edited January 22, 2011 by theozonelayerhatesme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superhawk138 202 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 4 ports not sure of the size. No problems cycling so never needed to open them up. 08 IZ-108 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csmw 98 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 4-ports on 18-19" guns. 6-ports on 12" guns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gremlinx 20 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 3 ports here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skiboatsp 111 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 .1875 ports? Good gigily wigily.............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
captainchemical 11 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 3 ports here. I determined they were undersized after wire test. Sent to Cadiz for warrenty work. Shot like a bat out of hell after I got it back. They do good work and are very friendly and always got back to me quick when I left messages. Small issue with pin in gas block threads and they are working with me on it to resolve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Well, I got my stock in, but I'm too busy filling customer's orders to make the nice handles I want to put on them. If anyone wants a set without the fancy handles, machined in sizes; .071, .080 & .091. I have them. I'm including a set free with all my services, but if anyone wants to know about where they stand port wise, PM me. I'll sell rudimentary sets (pretty much bent carbon steel precision machined wire) for $5.00 They don't bend easily, so they're good for port cleaners too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalilou 2 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 4 port, diamond pattern. Its a peach state arms conversion. Fires as fast as i can pull the trigger. No ftf's ever Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aeternus 7 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 3 port at .078 that I enlarged to .093. One port hole was partially obstructed so I took the gas block off and enlarged the gas block hole in order to fix the obstruction. Seems like there isn't much quality control as far as port hole size or number. Still having issues with stove piping using federal and winchester bulk with a v-plug on setting 5 but slugs and buckshot work great on setting 2 and 3. I plan on sending over my bolt carrier assembly to pauly when I save up some more money for that glass bolt special or what not, hopefully that will help out with my stove piping issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 3 ports, no idea on size. But I was looking over my S12 the other day, and I'm thinking it might have 4 holes in the diamond pattern, but the 4th hole might be covered by the gas block? I'm not 100% sure. Either way, even if there is a 4th there, only 3 are functional at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Street Judge 0 Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 My s12 has two visable ports. My gun will only cycle high brass buck or slug loads. Hunting type loads make it a single shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KevenW 4 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 exactly where are all the ports? i screw the plug out and there is a hole just inside, it has one good sized hole in it and that's all. i didnt take the puck out. I haven't seen anybody say anything about having just 1 port.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dwnthehatch 14 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 (edited) I picked mine up yesterday and it has one visable port. The other two were located using a dental pick. Edited January 30, 2011 by dwnthehatch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AzPatriot 1 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I picked mine up yesterday and it has one visable port. The other two were located using a dental pick. I just picked up my first S12 this past Friday, brand new, and pulled it apart. I see only one gas port hole just as in your picture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Use a pick or paper clip and you should find them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ewoketeer 35 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 mine has three. I 'picked' them all and the seem to be open. If I remember to set the gas plug properly, I don't have problems with the Wally-World Winchester bulk pack (hate that 'short between the headsets'). My S/N is fairly low (H024....) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bolt1958 1 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I have a RAA IZ-109 with 3 ports and just bought an Arsenal SGL12-03 that also has three ports . No problems with the RAA even with Walmart bulk and haven't shot the new Arsenal yet . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KevenW 4 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 ok i took and straightened out a bream fish hook and found two more ports. on "feels" like only about 1/3 of the port is exposed and can barely see the point of the hook when lookin in the barrel, the other seems to have half of the hole or so exposed. if i want to fix it how do i do it? if it's shooting the cheap federal field and target loads fine should i even mess with it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csmw 98 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 (edited) if i want to fix it how do i do it? if it's shooting the cheap federal field and target loads fine should i even mess with it? If it shoots light loads correctly, don't even worry about it. If you want to expose the ports 100%... You will have to remove the gas-block from the barrel before you can do anything. Most guys will take a file and open up the gas-block hole. I always felt it was quicker and cleaner to align the block upside down in a vice and open it up w/ carbide end-mill. Two ways to skin a cat, do whatever is easier for you. Both will yield the same result. Edited February 11, 2011 by C&S Metall-Werkes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
squid44883 4 Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Mine came with three .078 factory ports, but they have been enlarged to .093 and it made all the difference in the world. Same here and Paulie sent me the guages. They an excellent idea! Excellent polish job Paulie - Thank you! Also, keep in mind that the parts are not just polished ... they are profiled too. Awsome work!!!!! Highly recommended ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDriver 23 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I have 3 ports and I think they are significantly undersized. I could not get .065" string trimmer line all the way through any of them. They are not blocked (a plastic-coated paper clip got through all 3). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HotGuns 9 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) i have a 3 port and a 3/16 drill bit went in the hole very snug. not sure what size that would be in metric You sure about that? .187 ports would run into each other and it would be WAY too much gas . Are you sure it isnt 3/32? That would be .093 thousanths. Edited February 14, 2011 by HotGuns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 3 ports 0.093 or a paper clip This is a new unmodified S12. Have put 150 rounds of Wally Winchester universal through it via 5, 10 and MD-20 Mags. No issues. Will be converting next weekend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G-30 8 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 I have 4 ports of unknown size, I just took it out today for the first time and it ran great on Fed bulk pack #7.5 and #8 loads on setting two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyMinion 300 Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 I got a 3 port, unknown size. It cycled everything I had from #2 high speed steel to 3" Mag rifled slugs on setting one. I couldn't be happier with this gun. My 12 rd Surefire mag... Not so much Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShedInTheWoods 1 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 So I pulled mine apart tonight and found 3 ports. I tried using a .80 trimmer line and it wouldn't pass through. It shoots buck on 1 fine. However is hiccups sometimes on setting 2 with cheap stuff. Should I quit wasting time and money and just send it in or continue to break it in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vortex 2 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I have 3 ports which, were about .065" until I tapped off the gas block. I drilled them out to 3/32 (.093") and haven't had a problem since. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
06dmaxcc 0 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 how come mine only has 2 ports Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmons 23 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 3 ports here not sure of the size but if I had to guess I would say 0.093 as they look fairly large this coming from a very former (like 32 years ago) machinist. I just know it has eaten just about everything I could throw at it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sneaky 2 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 4 ports, ≈ .075ish from factory. Ran bulk ok, converted, smothed stuff out, works like a champ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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