kyblaster 2 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 I'm not so much asking about the rifles their self but the rounds. I am new to all this and trying to just find out about the 5.45, compared to the 223 or x39. Honestly untill these Saiga forums I never herd of the 5.45 thats how much of a FNG I am. Thanks so much for any and all help finding out about this round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) It was pretty much Russia's answer to the 5.56. It's basically the 7.62 case shrunk to accept a 5.45 bullet. Long story short, it lacks the punch of the 7.62 but has better accuracy and a flatter trajectory. Some even think it has better ballistics than the 5.56, which is debatable. Just google it. There are countless threads on it. Or you could just look 4 threads down... http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=60947&pid=581289&st=0entry581289 Edited January 17, 2011 by W8lifter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SovietSurplus 3 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Better penetration than 5.56x45 Flatter trajectory than 7.62x389 Less recoil than 7.62x39 Worse trajectory than 5.56x45 Worse penetration than 7.62x39 Worse terminal ballistics than 5.56x45 No good American market No high-quality defensive loads No real market for reloaders Cheap Surplus Corrosive Surplus Just depends what matters to you. Edited January 17, 2011 by SovietSurplus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brandywine 5 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) No good American market No high-quality defensive loads The Hornady 5.45 v-max rounds fit both of these, though I guess "high-quality" is debatable. From everything I've seen they are pretty nasty as far as rapid expansion and large wound channels. Edited January 17, 2011 by brandywine 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toshbar 36 Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) It's the best bang for the buck of centerfire rifle ammo, period. Edited January 18, 2011 by toshbar 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
essohbe 47 Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Better penetration than 5.56x45 I think that's too vague. There's so many different .223/5.56 rounds that we can't just say 5,45 is better. There's even different 5,45 rounds. No real market for reloaders I'd agree to an extent but people do reload using worked .222 bullets. Why? I don't know. There's a trillion rounds of surplus probably. Lol. That's an exageration but you get what I mean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffetDestroyer 969 Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 The thing I like about it is the lack of recoil and muzzle rise even without a compensator. It stays right on target for multiple shots. Cheap ammo would be the other consideration into getting one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamesavery22 54 Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I'm sure there are corresponding threads here. Probably not as long though... http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?59381-The-5.45x39-Warrior-Talk-Rifle&highlight=5.45x39 http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?61684-How-many-have-5.45x39-fighting-rifles http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?67413-5.45x39mm-vs-7.62x39mm http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?55106-New-Hornady-7.62x39mm-and-5.45x39mm-VMAX-loads!-Article-here Some good reads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SgtRaven 531 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) The thing I like about it is the lack of recoil and muzzle rise even without a compensator. It stays right on target for multiple shots. I'd add: "once used with correct compensator (muzzle break)". AK-74 MB (original and "zigzag") are very helpful. I can see the difference after getting Bulgy FSB with "zigzag" MB. I wouldn't say recoil got much softer, but muzzle jump improved greatly. Edited January 22, 2011 by Sgt. Raven Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SovietSurplus 3 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 The thing I like about it is the lack of recoil and muzzle rise even without a compensator. It stays right on target for multiple shots. I'd add: "once used with correct compensator (muzzle break)". AK-74 MB (original and "zigzag") are very helpful. I can see the difference after getting Bulgy FSB with "zigzag" MB. I wouldn't say recoil got much softer, but muzzle jump improved greatly. These can be used with 223 as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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