rocinante 100 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 and gay sounding too. Mercury-Hermes on a saiga? They should at least make it a lot smaller and a lot more professional looking. Reminds me of a Tommy Hilfiger or Rock Island Bill Board. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Well, it is an abortion gone wrong... but it isn't the only importer. So you could try and get another one or just be happy with the one you have and if it's legal in your area fill in the mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xbmxxx 5 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Im glad the s12 I just got doesn't have this on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banshee 69 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) not as bad as the Blue Sky Imports stamp on the barrels of M1 carbines a few years ago. They were stamped so hard the barrel were mashed out of round. Edited February 2, 2011 by Banshee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 They probably have these too: I hear the K-Var ones do, but haven't seen it in person yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocinante 100 Posted February 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 if it's legal in your area fill in the mark. That is legal everywhere U.S. You just have to keep the serial number and model intact. It isn't like saigas has a slew of importers at one time. Maybe it won't be so bad. I heard somewhere they are marking them Legion which isn't tip toe through the tulips namby pamby sounding. It just chaps me when the object gets treated like an advertising medium for the maker. I strip the dealer's junk off my cars and refuse to wear any product splashed clothing except for my favorite sports teams. Pay me to advertise for you instead making me spend big bucks to carry around your billboards. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregM1 241 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 at least one up side is that most of the Mercury Hermes are built at Legion instead of the normal Izhmash plant. is yours also? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 So does this mean my old saiga imports are potentially worth more and maybe should be held on to? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregM1 241 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 So does this mean my old saiga imports are potentially worth more and maybe should be held on to? no. not unless you have specific feature that might make it more uncommon. still the same rifle, except some might prefer the legion build over the izhmash. if you have one of the 09 model 7.62x39 with the no stepped barrel, dimple, etc., it might get 10-20$ more. if it has the extra "Y" stamp, that could possibly get you 50 extra. it also comes down to whom did the build. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 They probably have these too: I hear the K-Var ones do, but haven't seen it in person yet. I saw an Arsenal with this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 if it's legal in your area fill in the mark. That is legal everywhere U.S. You just have to keep the serial number and model intact. It isn't like saigas has a slew of importers at one time. Maybe it won't be so bad. I heard somewhere they are marking them Legion which isn't tip toe through the tulips namby pamby sounding. It just chaps me when the object gets treated like an advertising medium for the maker. I strip the dealer's junk off my cars and refuse to wear any product splashed clothing except for my favorite sports teams. Pay me to advertise for you instead making me spend big bucks to carry around your billboards. Be real careful with that. Touching it up with a little paint or cold blue to make it less ugly is probably just fine, but obliterating a federally-required import mark is very much illegal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Jeez, makes the WASR mark look good.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeep297 20 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 They probably have these too: I hear the K-Var ones do, but haven't seen it in person yet. I have 3 models from K-Var (01, 02, and BHO). The only one that has this is the new LRBHO model (I haven't received it yet but confirmed it with the salesperson). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 hatch out marks are actually a normal thing on these guns. they range from caliber changes, to importer, to year markings (only saw one with a changed year, though) if you have a saiga rifle in either of the x39 calibers or in 223 with hatch marks on it, pull your bolt carrier and check it for the full auto sear nipple on the bottom rear of the bolt. if you got one of these, its worth a premium to builders. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supertex 242 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 hatch out marks are actually a normal thing on these guns. they range from caliber changes, to importer, to year markings (only saw one with a changed year, though) if you have a saiga rifle in either of the x39 calibers or in 223 with hatch marks on it, pull your bolt carrier and check it for the full auto sear nipple on the bottom rear of the bolt. if you got one of these, its worth a premium to builders. any bolt carrier pictures? thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I had a dimpled '06 manufacture 7.62x39 Saiga and it had something hatched out on one side. Not as big as the K-Var pics' hatched out area, though. I traded it in last year, but I can't remember what was hatched out. Someone told me when I first got it and posted pics, but that was a long time ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 They probably have these too: I hear the K-Var ones do, but haven't seen it in person yet. I have 3 models from K-Var (01, 02, and BHO). The only one that has this is the new LRBHO model (I haven't received it yet but confirmed it with the salesperson). I have only seen it on the 12ga to mark out the RAA. But man it is deep! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 They probably have these too: I hear the K-Var ones do, but haven't seen it in person yet. I have 3 models from K-Var (01, 02, and BHO). The only one that has this is the new LRBHO model (I haven't received it yet but confirmed it with the salesperson). I have only seen it on the 12ga to mark out the RAA. But man it is deep! The two IZ-109's I received form K-VAR last week had the etched out blocks like that. One is marked with Arsenal's info. The other is not remarked!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mayor Al 41 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Since I live between the RAA in Scottsburg,IN and the H-M, claiming a Louisville, KY location, I have to wonder if the former has moved the short 25 miles to Kentucky to form a "new" business. Lots of tax-incentives for companies to move to the Louisville area these days. It would be interesting to see if any RAA employees are working at the 'new' gun business?? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macaholic 5 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) They probably have these too: I hear the K-Var ones do, but haven't seen it in person yet. I have 3 models from K-Var (01, 02, and BHO). The only one that has this is the new LRBHO model (I haven't received it yet but confirmed it with the salesperson). I saw a couple of these a few gunshows ago in Ft Lauderdale. They also had the new style forgrip. Edited February 3, 2011 by macaholic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gkcf 8 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I wonder where these folks are located in Louisville... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvhanh20 1,052 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Its funny how the way they're marked now will effect their cost later! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
geepelton 105 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I took a Dremal to mine and removed it the best I could. It looks a lot better than what it was. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 wow. dude not good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GLine 0 Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 (edited) Here's the Legion I just picked up today. The bolt hold open is loose and the spring popped off, causing it to jam on the third time that I worked the action. Anyone else had that happen on a new Saiga? Also, any method to cover up the mark on the side where they etched out the RAA stamp? Edited February 5, 2011 by GLine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
larain60 0 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I am going to convert a saiga to a PG version and may send it out for welding holes and refinish. Couldnt the cross hatch be removed by welding over and grinding down before refinish or some other epoxy filler then grind/refinish? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I took a Dremal to mine and removed it the best I could. It looks a lot better than what it was. That is a good idea actually. Nice work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I thought stippling was supposed to be cool? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartacus 1,619 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Also, any method to cover up the mark on the side where they etched out the RAA stamp? You could try some JB-Weld and use a credit card or putty knife to smooth it out, then finish sand it when dry. The trick would be getting a good paint match to really hide it unless you just paint the whole receiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Digital_Hate 1 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 at the legion website i notice no 308win where listed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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