ItsAllCreated 59 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Damn I hope Legion USA comes through!!! ...IZL-46 Saiga 12 FTW! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 the guy! Well, that was helpful. I just asked you a simple question so I could find the thread you were talking about. No need to get pissy with me. hey I was joking, now whos getting pissy...to find the thread I am talking about you would look through MY started threads. It is about Russian authentic slings, which 'the guy' came in after some debate, acted like he was going to clear it all up, since he is an importer and deals with izhmash and all, then never returns. I didn't realize you were joking with me. I apologize. Damn interwebs.... hard to tell when the hot girl is fat too ...... ....... See sig line.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Damn I hope Legion USA comes through!!! ...IZL-46 Saiga 12 FTW! Yeah, depending, I might sell an 030 and get one of those. Those are so nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpoppel41 24 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 just got an update for those who have ordered, Hi Guys, Happy New Year! Just a quick update as I head off to the SHOT Show and then two other back to back work trips. During the next couple of weeks I have several meetings scheduled that will hopefully get us the positive resolution we are all looking for. I expect by Valentine’s Day I will be back and we will have a resolution one way or the other on these. Either I will have definitive dates and plans for everyone or we will have to come up with alternative that will make everyone happy. I know you all are tired of waiting. As am I trust me!! Dealing with these has been one of the biggest headaches, heartburns, and challenges I have ever had to face, and frankly it was all to try and share the love. Regardless you all have put your trust and money with me and for that I am eternally grateful. I have spoken to many of you, and you all have been very understanding and supportive. Thank you again for that. We are in the home stretch one way or the other so I ask you all for just these last weeks of understanding and patience. While I have my phone and laptop with me for the next few weeks I will have extremely limited time to talk or answer emails. Please bare with me a bit and with any luck I’ll have a date for our shotguns upon my return. I hope this email finds you and yours well and that you all had a blessed and happy holiday season! Best regards, Brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bridis 319 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Got the same email... Let's hope this doesn't result in your choice of refund or Legion 030. Edited January 17, 2012 by Bridis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Got the same email... Let's hope this doesn't result in your choice of refund or Legion 030. Agreed, but both of those are better then loosing it all or a long legal battle... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpoppel41 24 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 no, that was just a piss and moan moment. i better get another svd style stock, cause i have two ordered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha Kilo 42 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Got the same email... Let's hope this doesn't result in your choice of refund or Legion 030. Agreed, but both of those are better then loosing it all or a long legal battle... Agreed, I'd fix up a Legion version how I want it in a day. I'd make that trade today if I could. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bcrider 68 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 At this point I'd be happy with the Legion as well. It was worth the gamble at the time. Sometime the risk rewards. Sometimes it doesn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramlake 98 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Dissapointing findings about these models in 030 gas system thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Dissapointing findings about these models in 030 gas system thread I didnt understand at first but here: saiga 030 gas system i Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpoppel41 24 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 got an update, Hi guys, Finally back and ready to give another update. We are STILL working on ironing out this deal and trying to make it work. That being said, it has taken WAY too long and I have lost way too much hair over this, and I know some of you are feeling the same pains, so what I am going to do is begin refunding money from me to you guys as I can. It will take some time for sure, but everyone will get their money back or the shotgun they ordered one way or the other. Refunds for the most part are going to be started in the order that the money was received. In the mean time the list will still stand and no one will lose their place in line, so if and when the shotguns arrive you all will have first dibs. I appreciate all the continued patience and support from you guys, and really really hope to get you what you all ordered. I am going to be reaching out to each and every one of you mainly just to catch up, answer questions, and personally thank you as well as apologize for all the delays surrounding this deal. I’m looking forward to talking to you all. Best regards, Brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lelandeod 179 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 That's really too bad. I hope everyone comes out of it to their satisfaction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 the sinister part of me wants to say but the sensitive side knew it would come to this and feels sorry for predicting it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bcrider 68 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Just because you couldn't afford to risk 1500 bucks doesn't make you a profit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) Lets not fight or insult each other, lets just be happy that no members here got ripped off. It sounds like Brian is a good guy, I hope you all get your guns. Edited February 11, 2012 by King of the Hill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fallschirmjager667 729 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Just because you couldn't afford to risk 1500 bucks doesn't make you a profit. doesn't look like anyone's going to make a profit 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 On one hand it's ridiculous that no one is importing the 8 rounders into the states. On the other hand, I like it that way, keep's the value of mine high. Regarding the 030 - I want it dammit. But I'm not putting any money down to a business that's non-responsive and doesn't have any set dates on importation. I understand the nature of this item, but I'm not in the business of giving out interest free loans. ask Samal he can help you with Russian mags Quote Link to post Share on other sites
syava1 0 Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Hi, everybody. This is my first post in the forum. Like some of you I took the risk of pre-ordering Saiga 12 030 from Brian. It has been a long wait. Now, according to latest update from him he will be issuing refunds, but "it will take time" and is "still working on ironing out this deal" . I am not at all upset about not getting the shotgun because from start I knew it was a possibility. But it seems that now I can not even get a refund and he can not be reached by any means possible. Frankly, this upsets me. I think we deserve some more information than vague statements like that or be able to get a prompt refund. I don't think I want to wait months and months for a refund. Has anyone was able to get more info from him? Did anyone actually received a refund? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 SO, did we get burned? anyone get any news/word/refund from Brian?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lelandeod 179 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 This really bothers me as I could easily have been among the guys in limbo. I was ready to order two 030's from Brian last fall. The only reason I didn't is because after I asked, he never actually sent me an order form. I figured if he didn't want my order bad enough to follow through and send me the order form, I'd be better served taking my business elsewhere. That's the only reason I'm not screaming right along with you guys. I really really really hope he comes through in some way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lokmeup 30 Posted April 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Brian actually called me last week. He reiterated how he place his order with Izzy and sent in the down payment prior to the Russian bankruptcy/restructuring problem, thus losing his deposit to the Russian lawyers. Then Legion thought it would be a great idea to import these weapons them selves. So, now most likely the 030 that are in the states now WERE the ones being built for Red Dragun's order (minus the lower front rail)... He is slowly refunding from oldest to newest order out of his own pocket. I am expecting a refund in 1-2 months. If you have any concerns, e-mail him you concern and phone number. He is very busy, but will return your message. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 This really bothers me as I could easily have been among the guys in limbo. I was ready to order two 030's from Brian last fall. The only reason I didn't is because after I asked, he never actually sent me an order form. I figured if he didn't want my order bad enough to follow through and send me the order form, I'd be better served taking my business elsewhere. That's the only reason I'm not screaming right along with you guys. I really really really hope he comes through in some way. I do too. It sounds like he is trying to make it right. Time will tell! I was very close to placing an order with him too back then. So happy i didnt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Brian actually called me last week. He reiterated how he place his order with Izzy and sent in the down payment prior to the Russian bankruptcy/restructuring problem, thus losing his deposit to the Russian lawyers. Then Legion thought it would be a great idea to import these weapons them selves. So, now most likely the 030 that are in the states now WERE the ones being built for Red Dragun's order (minus the lower front rail)... He is slowly refunding from oldest to newest order out of his own pocket. I am expecting a refund in 1-2 months. If you have any concerns, e-mail him you concern and phone number. He is very busy, but will return your message. Thanks for the info. good to know hes still in contact with people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 ...I was ready to order two 030's from Brian last fall. The only reason I didn't is because after I asked, he never actually sent me an order form. I figured if he didn't want my order bad enough to follow through and send me the order form, I'd be better served taking my business elsewhere... I had the same experience. I'm glad I went with my gut. Those of you who sent him money, I hope you get your refunds reasonably soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) I actually had my order form in hand and a place number assigned. Then I waited for any "tangible" sign that this was going to happen, other than just happy talk. That sign never came. The fact that it never looked like he was going to sell out of the 200 gave me the confidence to hold back and I never sent my money. Needless to say, glad I waited.. Edited April 12, 2012 by DogMan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doodi1 23 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I'm one of the first ones that placed an order with Brian. I'm still hoping he can swing the order to get the 030's in. I still want one and I'm probably going to buy a Legion anyway. Btw, Brian was supposed to call me last week for an update, but he never did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) I actually had my order form in hand and a place number assigned. Then I waited for any "tangible" sign that this was going to happen, other than just happy talk. That sign never came. The fact that it never looked like he was going to sell out of the 200 gave me the confidence to hold back and I never sent my money. Needless to say, glad I waited.. same here. I ordered on from cheaper than dirt in March for 1109.89 runs bulkpack right out of the box. Has the siderail but not the gasblock rail. LRBHO and came with two 4 round magwell mags. I'm sure I can change the gasblock for less then 400$ Products Ordered: Item Description Quantity Price Total 2-LEGIZL-433 Legion USA Saiga Semi Auto Shotgun 12 Gauge 3" 19" Barrel 4 Rounds Synthetic Stock Black Finish 1 $1,098.90 $1,098.90 Subtotal $1,098.90 Shipping $10.99 Tax $0.00 Total $1,109.89 Edited April 13, 2012 by madmax4x4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
syava1 0 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Yes, we got burned. Nobody is getting the money back! He does not care to call because he has nothing to say. He promised to call me more than once, but never did. Why should he pay back if we just keep waiting. He will not pay unless he is forced to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bridis 319 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Brian has called me several times and responded to my emails. During my last conversation he explained that he was working on returning the money as the orders were taken. He said that he has already given several refunds and is working his way through the list. I'm going to give him some more time... But like everyone, I do have a breaking point where delaying my refund will not be acceptable. At that point I will do whatever it takes to get my money out of this deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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