sailor 6 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) There are a number of threads in the past few years about the Saiga 7.62x39 firing pin lacking a spring - actually a designed free floating firing pin. A current advertisement online describes the same Saiga Sporter in 7.62x39 "includes a spring loaded firing pin" - as stated in the ad. Would that require a mod to the bolt and/or the firing pin supplied, as that system would not work with the stock bolt/firing pin? Or am I missing something. Wondering if there will be two different, but similar parts out there - to further confuse the parts issue. Anyone up to date on that issue? Edited February 27, 2011 by sailor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LtDan 4 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 There are a number of threads in the past few years about the Saiga 7.62x39 firing pin lacking a spring - actually a designed free floating firing pin. A current advertisement online describes the same Saiga Sporter in 7.62x39 "includes a spring loaded firing pin" - as stated in the ad. Would that require a mod to the bolt and/or the firing pin supplied, as that system would not work with the stock bolt/firing pin? Or am I missing something. Wondering if there will be two different, but similar parts out there - to further confuse the parts issue. Anyone up to date on that issue? My Saiga 7.62 39 has a floating firing pin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 There are a number of threads in the past few years about the Saiga 7.62x39 firing pin lacking a spring - actually a designed free floating firing pin. A current advertisement online describes the same Saiga Sporter in 7.62x39 "includes a spring loaded firing pin" - as stated in the ad. Would that require a mod to the bolt and/or the firing pin supplied, as that system would not work with the stock bolt/firing pin? Or am I missing something. Wondering if there will be two different, but similar parts out there - to further confuse the parts issue. Anyone up to date on that issue? The 7.62x39 vepr has one and it can also use a regular free floating one. I can swap in a vepr spring loaded one into a saiga bolt. The firing pin itself is notched to retain the spring. A saiga bolt could use either type with no mods required. However, bear in mind, the saiga/vepr bolt uses a 74 style firing pin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob0126 1 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 There are a number of threads in the past few years about the Saiga 7.62x39 firing pin lacking a spring - actually a designed free floating firing pin. A current advertisement online describes the same Saiga Sporter in 7.62x39 "includes a spring loaded firing pin" - as stated in the ad. Would that require a mod to the bolt and/or the firing pin supplied, as that system would not work with the stock bolt/firing pin? Or am I missing something. Wondering if there will be two different, but similar parts out there - to further confuse the parts issue. Anyone up to date on that issue? The 7.62x39 vepr has one and it can also use a regular free floating one. I can swap in a vepr spring loaded one into a saiga bolt. The firing pin itself is notched to retain the spring. A saiga bolt could use either type with no mods required. However, bear in mind, the saiga/vepr bolt uses a 74 style firing pin. Do you have any pictures to compare, so I can order the exact part to swap out the free floating pin, for a spring loaded one, for my 7.62x39? thanks! Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) There are a number of threads in the past few years about the Saiga 7.62x39 firing pin lacking a spring - actually a designed free floating firing pin. A current advertisement online describes the same Saiga Sporter in 7.62x39 "includes a spring loaded firing pin" - as stated in the ad. Would that require a mod to the bolt and/or the firing pin supplied, as that system would not work with the stock bolt/firing pin? Or am I missing something. Wondering if there will be two different, but similar parts out there - to further confuse the parts issue. Anyone up to date on that issue? The 7.62x39 vepr has one and it can also use a regular free floating one. I can swap in a vepr spring loaded one into a saiga bolt. The firing pin itself is notched to retain the spring. A saiga bolt could use either type with no mods required. However, bear in mind, the saiga/vepr bolt uses a 74 style firing pin. Do you have any pictures to compare, so I can order the exact part to swap out the free floating pin, for a spring loaded one, for my 7.62x39? thanks! Robert Look at this thread in the link http://forum.saiga-1...-saiga-308-bolt That is a saiga captured spring firing pin. The captured firing pins are not available anywhere from what I have seen. Also, your bolt will not likely be hollowed out in the rear for the spring. Edited October 19, 2011 by my762buzz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) Ok, I must correct something I stated earlier in this thread. Saigas can use either type of bolt springed or free floating, but only the springed bolts are hollowed out in the rear for the spring and firing pin retainment bulge to fit. So a free floating pin or a springed pin will fit a springed bolt, but a free floating bolt can only fit with a freefloating pin. Edited October 19, 2011 by my762buzz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob0126 1 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 i emailed ben murray and he said he could modify the bolt to accept a spring, long as the pin is the flat type for 30 plus return shipping. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 There are a number of threads in the past few years about the Saiga 7.62x39 firing pin lacking a spring - actually a designed free floating firing pin. A current advertisement online describes the same Saiga Sporter in 7.62x39 "includes a spring loaded firing pin" - as stated in the ad. Would that require a mod to the bolt and/or the firing pin supplied, as that system would not work with the stock bolt/firing pin? Or am I missing something. Wondering if there will be two different, but similar parts out there - to further confuse the parts issue. Anyone up to date on that issue? The 7.62x39 vepr has one and it can also use a regular free floating one. I can swap in a vepr spring loaded one into a saiga bolt. The firing pin itself is notched to retain the spring. A saiga bolt could use either type with no mods required. However, bear in mind, the saiga/vepr bolt uses a 74 style firing pin. Do you have any pictures to compare, so I can order the exact part to swap out the free floating pin, for a spring loaded one, for my 7.62x39? thanks! Robert Look at this thread in the link http://forum.saiga-1...-saiga-308-bolt That is a saiga captured spring firing pin. The captured firing pins are not available anywhere from what I have seen. Also, your bolt will not likely be hollowed out in the rear for the spring. Iirc: the spring is not "captured" in that it can be removed from the pin; and therefore replaced with a new spring, if you could find/fabricate one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 i emailed ben murray and he said he could modify the bolt to accept a spring, long as the pin is the flat type for 30 plus return shipping. Murray's the man. He did a spring loaded pin/bushing job on my SKS last year. After I got it back, no more punched primers. So far, my Arsenal hasn't punched one, but if it does, Ben gets the job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) Iirc: the spring is not "captured" in that it can be removed from the pin; and therefore replaced with a new spring, if you could find/fabricate one. I used the term captured because of the cup looking piece on the spring end, similar to how you can purchase a recoil spring for a pistol that is captured but the spring can be replaced by unscrewing the end piece. Example captured recoil rod http://www.glockmeister.com/Glockmeister-Stainless-Steel-Captured-Recoil-Rod-for-G17_22_31-and-other-GLOCK-Models/productinfo/GMSSR17C-2/ Edited October 20, 2011 by my762buzz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob0126 1 Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) Murray's the man. He did a spring loaded pin/bushing job on my SKS last year. After I got it back, no more punched primers. So far, my Arsenal hasn't punched one, but if it does, Ben gets the job. i called murray and asked about the procedure. he said he uses his lathe to make a place for a spring, along with a bushing. said its about 1-1.5lb spring and have only had a few saigas maybe scratch the primer but no where near enuff to fire them off. im considering getting this done but wont be back for a few weeks. wish he had spare bolts so i could just purchase one already done, so the rifle wouldnt be down for a week. we need a distributor to sell factory saiga parts. Edited October 20, 2011 by rob0126 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Rob, what I did on my SKS was buy a spare bolt, had it headspaced(it was darn close, but better safe than sorry), and ran the backup bolt until Murray got done with my original. I then put the backup bolt in my spare parts kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KC913 324 Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 we need a distributor to sell factory saiga parts. http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=17642&cat=279&page=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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