bigmegina 3 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 their is a new 8 rd russian sagia 12 mag for sale on the ar15 forum for $150 shipped.ad says in US already.is this a fair price? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fumes 84 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Fair is a place where hogs win ribbons. Too rich for my blood. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigcec1 72 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 depends realy what you are willing to pay I think last time I got some they where around 125$ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Juggs just had them for $125 shipped I am waiting on the second order if there is one. I should number 5 in line going by post time stamps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I paid 150. For my only one.I just use it for photo ops. If I wanted anather one and the only one available was 150. Then I wouldent scoff at it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim2shu 48 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Why would you want to pay 150.00 for a 8rd mag when you can get a 10 or 12 rd american for 35 to 40 bucks does not make good sense to me? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Some people are interested in the OEM mags that are designed for the same gun, so they're authentic, realistic, and proper. That's why those would pay more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) Why would you want to pay 150.00 for a 8rd mag when you can get a 10 or 12 rd american for 35 to 40 bucks does not make good sense to me? I used to be in the same boat but i've always been leary of the AGP/SGM mags. On top of what Tritium said, durability. There are no stick mags (currently in production) for the S12 that can handle abuse like real Russian mags can. I dont really care about authenticity, i care about durability. I own one Izzy 8 right now and will have two more soon from Juggs. All three of them will get used and abused (dropped/scratched/dinged up/rained on) like any other magazine i own. Edited March 4, 2011 by Mullet Man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Some people are interested in the OEM mags that are designed for the same gun, so they're authentic, realistic, and proper. That's why those would pay more. I own 3 Izzy 8 rounders. I'll never buy a US stick mag unless Mike (MD Arms) comes out with a double stack mag. His drum is flawless. I only want the best...the Izzy 8 is my "go to" mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) Why would you want to pay 150.00 for a 8rd mag when you can get a 10 or 12 rd american for 35 to 40 bucks does not make good sense to me? If you're not going to use your gun to defend your life then there is no real compelling reason to get one. But there is no doubt these are more reliable. That margin of reliability, however big or small it may actually be will seem huge when you are in that moment of life or death and 125-150 dollars will seem like a steal. And if you didn't think it was worth it in the beginning, it will be too late to change your mind. Edited March 4, 2011 by DogMan 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lokmeup 30 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I just picked up some from RusMilitary for about 115-120 delivered. If your buying from them remember to take OFF the stated % for no VAT charge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikegraffam 11 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Why would you want to pay 150.00 for a 8rd mag when you can get a 10 or 12 rd american for 35 to 40 bucks does not make good sense to me? I used to be in the same boat but i've always been leary of the AGP/SGM mags. On top of what Tritium said, durability. There are no stick mags (currently in production) for the S12 that can handle abuse like real Russian mags can. I dont really care about authenticity, i care about durability. I own one Izzy 8 right now and will have two more soon from Juggs. All three of them will get used and abused (dropped/scratched/dinged up/rained on) like any other magazine i own. Well, hey.. if you can afford to dump $100+ on a single magazine, more power to ya. I've never had a reliability problem with my AGPs.. my S12 cycles winchester bulk pack very reliably, and I've dumped mags and mags full of that stuff downrange without a hitch. Durability? Now that I can see. I've never seen a Russian 8, but if it is just a longer version of the Russian 5 rounder that came with my gun, it certainly feels a bit more durable. Not worth $150 bucks to me, but if I was planning on getting into a firefight while bashing my mag into stuff, it would be $150 well spent. But honestly.. if I was that concerned about durability, I can think of a whole bunch of ways to make my 10 AGP mags much more durable.. probably more durable than the Russian mags for the cost of what you're paying for a single Russian 8 rounder. The Russian 5 rounder still has plastic tabs for locking into the gun, so you're not winning anything there. The plastic does seem stronger around the body though. So, if I was interested in that.. I'd probably make a metal sleeve for the mag body with some foam against the inside for shock absorption. A thin aluminium case would go a long way to strengthening the mag, and could be removed if desired. Or wrap the mag body in kevlar strips and epoxy. The point is, $150 is a lot of money to pay for a plastic magazine. You can get stronger mags with some ingenuity and that $150. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim2shu 48 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Did not mean to get anything started just was really interested in the reason why pay so much for a 8 round mag. And everybody reason makes good sence I just can't afford that for a 8rd mag. if I had that much to spend on a mag it would be a MDarms drum or a double stack when they come out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
busarider 23 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 How much do they pay retail for them outside the US? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTMR 11 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Huh, 1000+ rounds down the pipe and the only mag related issues I've had was shot #1 from a Surefire 12 rounder when it broke and fell out of the gun and the other surefire(jam) mag that likes to give FTFs. My AGPs, factory 5s, and promag drum all are 100% there for me. Biggest reason I would go for an 8 would be the shorter profile for shooting prone if I were to be in combat with it, but if that were the case my FN holds 8, is as relyable and has no mag hanging down... The advantage of the Saiga to me are the high caps that hold either lots of ammo (drums) or resonable (10+) amounts of magnum shells. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 The Izzy 8 mag can not be imported ,that would be most of the 150. If thay could be imported they would go for about 50.-60. I just like the look of them and thay are OEM for the Saiga....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 How much do they pay retail for them outside the US? They are $70-85 in Russian stores. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Ak-47 49 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) Nearly 20 dollars a round. Not in my book. Id rather have two or three factory 5 rounder for that price or better yet 15 Taiwanese ones at that price. I highly doubt the Russian mag is so much more rugged then a US magazine to warrant the price. Even two Promag 12 rounders would be better value to me. Edited March 4, 2011 by Lord Ak-47 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Where the hell are the MD Arms doublestacks? The wait is horrible for these.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ned Beatty 39 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Can russian civilians buy 8 rounders, I thought they were limited to 5 rounders, and non folding stocked Saigas, like machine guns are for civilians in the usa. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentVectorX 0 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 It's a seller's market when it comes to Izzy 8rd'ers. People that know them and want the most reliable mags will pay. If you think it's too much, you obviously don't need to worry about it. It always really annoys me when people bitch or question how much something costs . Let me google that for you... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 I'd buy them for $125 to $150 but I don't like ramen noodles enough. So I'll live with my stack of 5s and my one metal 8 (ha ha ha, Gotta love having the only one). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Some people are interested in the OEM mags that are designed for the same gun, so they're authentic, realistic, and proper. That's why those would pay more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 It's a seller's market when it comes to Izzy 8rd'ers. People that know them and want the most reliable mags will pay. If you think it's too much, you obviously don't need to worry about it. It always really annoys me when people bitch or question how much something costs . Let me google that for you... That's right, man. I'm tired of pretending my 8 rounders don't make me a fucking rock star from mars. I'm on a drug called Dogman, baby! Winning! I've got four 8 round mags, veins full of tiger blood, Adonis DNA, and a porn star sucking on each nut! Winning! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 (edited) and my one metal 8 (ha ha ha, Gotta love having the only one). If only that were the case. I've got two! neener neener. That's right, man. I'm tired of pretending my 8 rounders don't make me a fucking rock star from mars. I'm on a drug called Dogman, baby! Winning! I've got four 8 round mags, veins full of tiger blood, Adonis DNA, and a porn star sucking on each nut! Winning! Brucey? Edited March 5, 2011 by Mullet Man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 That's right, man. I'm tired of pretending my 8 rounders don't make me a fucking rock star from mars. I'm on a drug called Dogman, baby! Winning! I've got four 8 round mags, veins full of tiger blood, Adonis DNA, and a porn star sucking on each nut! Winning! ROFL love it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Why would you want to pay 150.00 for a 8rd mag when you can get a 10 or 12 rd american for 35 to 40 bucks does not make good sense to me? Because it's the only milspec mag available for the gun. The follower fits right, the feedlips are perfect, the spring has the right amount of force & the mouths will never collapse causing drag on shells & feeding issues. I was planning on getting into a firefight while bashing my mag into stuff, it would be $150 well spent. The Russian 5 rounder still has plastic tabs for locking into the gun, so you're not winning anything there. The plastic does seem stronger around the body though. If you were PLANNING on getting into a firefight, you would be guilty of premeditation.Responding while half asleep & clipping the mag on the corner of a wall & breaking off the plastic tab as you stumble would be a more likely scenario. I can only assume you've never seen the X-ray thread? The Russian sticks are not only the best polymer, but also have steel reinforcements on the inside of the front tabs. Did not mean to get anything started just was really interested in the reason why pay so much for a 8 round mag. And everybody reason makes good sence I just can't afford that for a 8rd mag. if I had that much to spend on a mag it would be a MDarms drum or a double stack when they come out Good choice. Mike was the first US company ever to field the expense of impregnating his mag's front tabs with steel & won't release anything until he's absolutely certain that it's very reliable. The MD-20 in my experience, is by far the most reliable & durable US mag out of the box with no tuning. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inzami 36 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Math: 1 x 8-rd @ $150 = 6 x 5-rd @ $25 Big mark up for rarity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ctd 20 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 How much do they pay retail for them outside the US? They go for between NZ$125 and NZ$200 in New Zealand,the price in NZ would be a bit inflated as the have to be turned into 7 round mags before they enter the country. To put it in perspective a s12 is around NZ$1200 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Math: 1 x 8-rd @ $150 = 6 x 5-rd @ $25 Big mark up for rarity. I look at the 5 rounders as an excellent value compared to the 8 rounders. They are a good choice if you're comfortable with the limited round count. I'm not. In all of these types of arguments the only issue ever brought up is the price. It's never about the mag itself. That only reinforces my conclusion that the few extra bucks is well spent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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