pfin3 0 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 (edited) Thinking of putting wood furniture on saiga 5.45 and have a few of questions. 1. Has anyone used the TimberSmith wood on theirs? 2. Has anyone used Ironwood Designs on theirs? 3. What has to be done to install either of these on the rifle? Edited March 6, 2011 by pfin3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 You will need at least a new gas tube and lower retainer. http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-405/AK47-Saiga-gas-tube/Detail http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-460/Saiga-Lower-Hand-guard/Detail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 What he said. Other than that, maybe a slight amount of trimming and you should be good to go. I may have some related questions on this subject since I'm going to have a custom made stock. Like, what holds the rear of the upper furniture in place? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) The upper handguard is held in place, both front and back, by stamped retainers that are connected to the gas tube. Saiga gas tubes do not have these retainers, but AK tubes, and replacements like the one in Jetmech's first link, do. Edited March 7, 2011 by DrThunder88 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 The upper handguard is held in place, both front and back, by stamped retainers that are connected to the gas tube. Saiga gas tubes do not have these retainers, but AK tubes, and replacements like the one in Jetmech's first link, do. Gotcha, but if the retainers are permanently attached how do you get a non flexible wood handguard in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfin3 0 Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 ...but has anyone used timbersmith or ironwood furniture? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 The upper handguard is held in place, both front and back, by stamped retainers that are connected to the gas tube. Saiga gas tubes do not have these retainers, but AK tubes, and replacements like the one in Jetmech's first link, do. Gotcha, but if the retainers are permanently attached how do you get a non flexible wood handguard in? It's installed with the the gas tube off. Inserts from the bottom and then you rotate it 180 degrees. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Redmist 7 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Ironwood Yugo M70 set in Teak..A++ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nattyiceking 33 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 ...but has anyone used timbersmith or ironwood furniture? I have the timbersmith brown laminate stock set on my 545 and personally think it looks great. It's good quality shit. I was stuck between the brown and black laminate, and the russian red wasn't available when I was converting otherwise I probably would of bought that. They also sell an unfinished set but I don't know the first thing about staining wood Sorry, my shitty camera doesn't do it justice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milsurps 4 Me 14 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 ...but has anyone used timbersmith or ironwood furniture? I have the timbersmith brown laminate stock set on my 545 and personally think it looks great. It's good quality shit. I was stuck between the brown and black laminate, and the russian red wasn't available when I was converting otherwise I probably would of bought that. They also sell an unfinished set but I don't know the first thing about staining wood Sorry, my shitty camera doesn't do it justice What lower handguard retainer did you go with and how do you like it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nattyiceking 33 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I went with the one CSS has for $50 which is pretty damn expensive for such a simple part but still better than the $85 Dinzag charges for theirs. It does what it's supposed to do. I used loc-tite when I installed it and after about 300 rounds it hasn't budged. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 ...but has anyone used timbersmith or ironwood furniture? I have the timbersmith brown laminate stock set on my 545 and personally think it looks great. It's good quality shit. I was stuck between the brown and black laminate, and the russian red wasn't available when I was converting otherwise I probably would of bought that. They also sell an unfinished set but I don't know the first thing about staining wood Sorry, my shitty camera doesn't do it justice Looks Great Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jarmen Kell 1 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I used Ironwood on my .223. Their prices are a little high but the product and customer service is well worth it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfin3 0 Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 ...but has anyone used timbersmith or ironwood furniture? I have the timbersmith brown laminate stock set on my 545 and personally think it looks great. It's good quality shit. I was stuck between the brown and black laminate, and the russian red wasn't available when I was converting otherwise I probably would of bought that. They also sell an unfinished set but I don't know the first thing about staining wood Sorry, my shitty camera doesn't do it justice Looks Great It does look great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milsurps 4 Me 14 Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I went with the one CSS has for $50 which is pretty damn expensive for such a simple part but still better than the $85 Dinzag charges for theirs. It does what it's supposed to do. I used loc-tite when I installed it and after about 300 rounds it hasn't budged. I ordered one today. Your pic made up my mind for me. I have the black laminate stock set and now just need to figure out which Saiga to put it on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nattyiceking 33 Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Post pics when you're finished I'd love to check out the black laminate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rcc1111 3 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I have the TimberSmith set in Red. I have to make up some fill in pieces to keep it from moving around. But I am happy with how it came out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jswledhed 57 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Ironwood walnut, Dinzag retainer and gas tube, Saiga 7.62x39. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfin3 0 Posted March 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I have the TimberSmith set in Red. I have to make up some fill in pieces to keep it from moving around. But I am happy with how it came out. What exactly did you have to do to take care of that problem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Here are some pics if my slr-95 with custom wallnut home made. Just got it done tonight. next is the 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rcc1111 3 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) I have the TimberSmith set in Red. I have to make up some fill in pieces to keep it from moving around. But I am happy with how it came out. What exactly did you have to do to take care of that problem? I made up some wooden shims that are the same profile as the hang guards and stock. I had to keep the upper hand guard from turning freely. I did the same thing for the lower hand guard to keep it from moving up and down. And I made one up for the butt stock to it would sit when I wanted it. It only took about an hour to make them all. Here is what it looks like installed. Edited March 19, 2011 by rcc1111 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milsurps 4 Me 14 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 I installed my black laminate set today and the first thing I noticed was that Saigas must have a little more room for fit than the Romanian rifles these are labeled for. I didn't feel like tearing down my SAR1 to compare so I just went ahead with the installation on a Saiga 5.45 I have. There is plenty of movement in the upper handguard but it seems like it'll stay. I'll probably shoot it sometime this week to see how it works. If its real bad I'll make some kind of shims for it. One thing I noticed was the notch cut in the inside of the lower handguard. Looks almost like its for a heat shield but I haven't heard anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfin3 0 Posted March 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Looks darn good! Hope mine turns out that good. Thats what I ended up purchasing and also in the same color. Thanks. I have the TimberSmith set in Red. I have to make up some fill in pieces to keep it from moving around. But I am happy with how it came out. Looks darn good! Hope my turns out that good. That is what I ended up purchasing and in the same color. Thanks What exactly did you have to do to take care of that problem? I made up some wooden shims that are the same profile as the hang guards and stock. I had to keep the upper hand guard from turning freely. I did the same thing for the lower hand guard to keep it from moving up and down. And I made one up for the butt stock to it would sit when I wanted it. It only took about an hour to make them all. Here is what it looks like installed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Here are some pics if my slr-95 with custom wallnut home made. Just got it done tonight. next is the 12 That walnut looks very nice on a AK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Here are some pics if my slr-95 with custom wallnut home made. Just got it done tonight. next is the 12 That walnut looks very nice on a AK. thanks took a lot of hand fitting but worth it the upper handgaurd was a pain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
operationlattethunder 1 Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 SO. PRETTY. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Made my own, too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 That looks great and totaly custom what finish did u use Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 That looks great and totaly custom what finish did u use Thanks. It's hand rubbed tung oil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
devrussell 1 Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 This might be a retarded question but can I reuse the screws off of the factory buttstock and buttplate on the wood? Also, is it better to drill a pilot hole 1st and then put in the screw or can I just screw it in? I know jack crap about wood... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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