Rick_a 13 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 My stepson shooting the PSL. The muzzle brake works quite nicely; controls muzzle jump, reduces felt recoil better, and doesn't dust print shooting prone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 cool man I was thinking about getting one... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blazer76 3 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Nice! so what's the length on it the barrel now? Did you do it your self? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rick_a 13 Posted March 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 The barrel is 21." I did everything myself, except a semi-local smith enlarged the FSB I.D. for me. I already had cutters to crown and face the muzzle. A new hacksaw blade took care of the chop. This was it before the FSB went on. The bore was not completely concentric where it was cut. Thankfully the brake baffles have plenty of room for error. The toughest part was drilling for the FSB pins without a drill press. There was much sweating and some cursing involved...but it ended up good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m1lk 26 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 ive always imagined what it would look like doing exactly that. it looks awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) with all due respect, why did you want to cut PSL, I thought it was the point of this rifle to have a long barrel and stronger round, you could of get WASR10 with dragunov stile stock and have fun with it http://www.impactguns.com/store/RI1171D-N.html Edited March 9, 2011 by atakacorp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volkov 318 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) Shortening the barrel doesn't make it a WASR10.. it's still a PSL. I have no idea what your getting at. It still shoots 54r which is different.. and cheaper. It still has elongated internals.. It's a different gun. Cutting a few inches off it doesn't put it in the WASR10 camp. Looks cool to me! Edited March 9, 2011 by volkov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) Shortening the barrel doesn't make it a WASR10.. it's still a PSL. I have no idea what your getting at. It still shoots 54r which is different.. and cheaper. It still has elongated internals.. It's a different gun. Cutting a few inches off it doesn't put it in the WASR10 camp. Looks cool to me! Sure,looks cool but PSL is 2" MOA 1.5" with ammo that she likes , so with short barrel is what, 3-4, common its a waist of the rifle. this why I am saying if you just want to have fun of shooting cans buy WASR,but if you want to use it for lets say hunting,or shoot 300-700 yards the reason why they made this AK on steroids in a first place, leave the barrel. Just my humble opinion . Edited March 9, 2011 by atakacorp 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volkov 318 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) I reckon at least a few people disagree with you http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/55266-ak54r-anyone-seen-or-own-one-check-it-out/ http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/59597-psl-mbr/page__st__30 Maybe it'll lose a bit of accuracy (though people with em seem happy and some question how much difference it actually will make) but being 54r puts it in a niche of it's own. Accuracy isn't the only distinguishing factor in the round. Edited March 9, 2011 by volkov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1liter 20 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) Shortening the barrel doesn't effect accuracy, it may lose some velocity though. In fact it may increase accuracy due to barrel whip. Shorter stiffer barrel plus a new crown job, would like to know how she shoots? Edited March 9, 2011 by 1liter 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) at what distance, I agree 50-100 yard maybe it will stay the same, but what about 200-700? Yes me too, I want to see some paper work and what ammo she likes Edited March 9, 2011 by atakacorp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volkov 318 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 May be worth a chrono test too.. Maybe someones already done one on the AK54rs.. I'll check tomorrow, too tired tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTMR 11 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 While I'm not gonna cut my PSL's barrel down 21" is still quite long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuzzNectar 35 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Shortening the barrel doesn't make it a WASR10.. it's still a PSL. I have no idea what your getting at. It still shoots 54r which is different.. and cheaper. It still has elongated internals.. It's a different gun. Cutting a few inches off it doesn't put it in the WASR10 camp. Looks cool to me! Sure,looks cool but PSL is 2" MOA 1.5" with ammo that she likes , so with short barrel is what, 3-4, common its a waist of the rifle. this why I am saying if you just want to have fun of shooting cans buy WASR,but if you want to use it for lets say hunting,or shoot 300-700 yards the reason why they made this AK on steroids in a first place, leave the barrel. Just my humble opinion . you bastard you have the black synthetic furniture and the 8x scope.i feel.....left behind.looks great Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTMR 11 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 The 8x is where its at man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Shortening the barrel doesn't make it a WASR10.. it's still a PSL. I have no idea what your getting at. It still shoots 54r which is different.. and cheaper. It still has elongated internals.. It's a different gun. Cutting a few inches off it doesn't put it in the WASR10 camp. Looks cool to me! Sure,looks cool but PSL is 2" MOA 1.5" with ammo that she likes , so with short barrel is what, 3-4, common its a waist of the rifle. this why I am saying if you just want to have fun of shooting cans buy WASR,but if you want to use it for lets say hunting,or shoot 300-700 yards the reason why they made this AK on steroids in a first place, leave the barrel. Just my humble opinion . you bastard you have the black synthetic furniture and the 8x scope.i feel.....left behind.looks great Thanks check it out my daughters trophy http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/48550-psl-hunting-loads/page__st__30 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuzzNectar 35 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Atak:thats awesome,great trophy and tell your girl i said great shot.i would be willing to bet that if a "situation" would happen that she would not become a statistic and rather a survivior.good job to you both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) Atak:thats awesome,great trophy and tell your girl i said great shot.i would be willing to bet that if a "situation" would happen that she would not become a statistic and rather a survivior.good job to you both. Thanks Buzz . Rick, sorry for a little hijacking, back to the 21" barrel PSL Edited March 9, 2011 by atakacorp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rick_a 13 Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 There is no difference in accuracy. The MV loss is marginal. IIRC it's something along the lines of 12fps per inch of barrel. I liked the barrel length of the shorter Tigr and SVDS, so that's what I did. Hell, there's a trend right now for 16-18" barrels with the tactical bolt gun crowd...but I wasn't going that short. I figure the Russians might know a thing or two. Some people like to make their PSL's look like SVD's. I just wanted to make mine a little handier. I need to take it out with some 7N1 on the bench to see what it can really do. Just out having fun with it, there didn't seem to be any difference. For 3-5 shots at a time this rifle is outstanding. Ten shots or more, and it's nothing too impressive. I've taken it out with my father-in-law a couple times. It shoots just as well as his Ruger .270 bolt gun. That alone is pretty damn good for what it is. It has half the trigger pull now, so I may be out shooting him with a big AK next time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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