MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Well that psll was sold. So now I'm looking again. If anyone comes across one, let me know please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 I really love my PSL, and it's my go-to rifle if I don't know what I want to do that day, whether messing around or heading to the range. Always fun when you can plop down with an oversized AK and actually beat the accuracy or a lot of other rifles out there. I just evened up the crown on mine, and it'll out-shoot me regardless of the range. Was kind of hard to sight in because with a 25 yard zero it was about a foot and a half high at 100. I think it's an attractive looking rifle as well. Managed to get the action so flawlessly smooth I still have trouble believing it's an oversized AK. That being said, if I had $2000 or $2500 and could find a tigr I'd snatch it in a heartbeat even if I was eating ketchup and bread for a few months. For now though, I don't believe there's a functional difference, I just want an Izhmash in x54r. someone correct me if im wrong but if i remember right then zeroed out at 25 meters = 300meters and at 100 it should be around 16cm above.since you were doing it at yards instead of meters it sounds about right. 20 m = 200 m Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Well that psll was sold. So now I'm looking again. If anyone comes across one, let me know please. Damn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Hey, Indy tell us more about the girl Heres what SHE had to say about THAT... Cause she is ALL MINE! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 OH... and when it comes to PSL accuracy... I decided to link to one of my posts... http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/61403-got-bored-started-to-reload-some-odd-things/ Thats just one... I have another one with wolf someplace... but I cant find it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rick_a 13 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 The PSL has a lot going for it. It has an auto bolt hold open, the muzzle brake and spring-loaded butt really reduce felt recoil, great accuracy (unless you're heating up the barrel significantly), and the ammo is cheap. The only negative is the lack of availability of good match grade ammo. Good shooters with 7n1, tailored handloads, or those lucky enough to have a surplus ball ammo that works well, can do surprising things with them. It is also not much to look at. Best to admire one from a distance. They look rough, and often require a few hundred rounds for break-in. I remember being torn between purchasing a Tigr or a few pistols for my 21st B-Day in the mid 90's. The pistols won, and years later I searched for the Tig again only to find them in collector status with collector prices. The Tigr and Drags are in a different class. Though the capabilities are very similar, the Russian guns are works of art in comparison. The PSL feels like a big, dressed-up AK, while the Izhmash guns are sleek and sophisticated. It's all good, the PSL fills my void for an AK and a com-bloc style sniper rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 somewhat off topic, but there is sort of a third choice....if you want something a little better than a PSL, but still much cheaper than a Tigr theres always the M76, kind of in between in cost too, shoots 8mm mauser though.... I just wanted to mention it lol, I've been thinking about getting one for a little while now but the funds elude me I searched cant find a lot of info on m76 does anybody have one to tell about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 somewhat off topic, but there is sort of a third choice....if you want something a little better than a PSL, but still much cheaper than a Tigr theres always the M76, kind of in between in cost too, shoots 8mm mauser though.... I just wanted to mention it lol, I've been thinking about getting one for a little while now but the funds elude me I searched cant find a lot of info on m76 does anybody have one to tell about. Same thing (stretched AK action) different round and better build ,but I'll stay with my PSL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 What do you guys think of tgi's psl? Atlantic has them for 700.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 What do you guys think of tgi's psl? Atlantic has them for 700.. Its USA build PSL, from the kit . is it comes with the scope? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Hey guys I just found a cai psl sporter kit... what's that? He said it is a 2.5 moa in average, Nd it comes with rhinhardt wood and an IOR scope.... what kind of scope is that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) Hey guys I just found a cai psl sporter kit... what's that? He said it is a 2.5 moa in average, Nd it comes with rhinhardt wood and an IOR scope.... what kind of scope is that. Take it ease man, read this email that my friend received "We had a few guns without glass. They were about $429.00 - The real price will be about $720 when the new guns arrive, this spring. I expect them to have Romanian Receivers and BBs, but we will know better when they arrive." S Steve Stanko Century International Arms * NEW DIRECT NUMBER 1-561-908-7130 1-800-527-1252 EXT 314 1-800-999-4899 EXT 314 1-888-731-9555 ext 4 www.centuryarms.com stanko@centuryarms.com So maybe you should wait a little and get Rom. PSL in a month or so? I would call him and get in line Good luck Edited March 19, 2011 by atakacorp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Well what's the difference in a psl and a psl sporter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Well what's the difference in a psl and a psl sporter? From PSL forum PSL-54C: *All parts made by Cugir (dunno if this is a good or bad thing) Good thing. *Threaded barrel w/ muzzle brake attached Yes, usually a spot weld that is easy to remove. I've heard of them being pinned also. *No chrome-lined barrel Where did you hear this? I've never heard of the Cugir builds coming with anything other than a Romanian chrome-lined barrel. PSL: "Sporter" *Nodak Receiver *Pin-on brake (boooooo) The one I had briefly (and by mistake) had a brake on a threaded barrel, not welded or pinned. *Chrome-lined barrel Yes, but it is a US made barrel of unknown origin and quality. Seems like they each have good and bad points. I'm mainly looking for one that will last and is more accurate. Suggestions? Get the Romanian build. It is generally considered to be higher quality (though I haven't heard enough feedback on the US build to know for certain). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) The gun looks good to go and so does the stuff Ive read about it. I think I may go with the sporter, he is saying its a 2-2,5 MOA gun depending on ammo.But he hasnt shot any of the good stuf yet neither.. edit: Where is said PSL forum? Edited March 19, 2011 by MrOneEyedBoh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 2.5 MOA not very good , my PSL C-54, 1"-1.5" with Chz silver tip and Yugo light ball ,if I make it cool between shots Google "gunboards forum" and go to the sniper forum, they all Mosin and PSL freaks there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) I thought that the 2.5 isnt bad for a psl.. "FWIW, the minimum acceptable accuracy for an SVD (according to the Russian 1PN34 manual) is 3 out of 4 shots in an 8cm circle at 100 meters. 8cm is about 3 1/8 inches. So 3 out of 4 in a 3 inch circle at 100 yards would be the minimum acceptable accuracy for a PSL. the manual says turn it in for repair if it won't do that." -Gunboards So that would make that guns accuracy at a 2.5" circle at 100yds. right?'" He was saying that he can get 2.5 moa with crap ammo, silver tip is 2 moa and and the other good stuff wolf gold and 7n1 he never shot. Edited March 19, 2011 by MrOneEyedBoh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) I thought that the 2.5 isnt bad for a psl.. "FWIW, the minimum acceptable accuracy for an SVD (according to the Russian 1PN34 manual) is 3 out of 4 shots in an 8cm circle at 100 meters. 8cm is about 3 1/8 inches. So 3 out of 4 in a 3 inch circle at 100 yards would be the minimum acceptable accuracy for a PSL. the manual says turn it in for repair if it won't do that." -Gunboards So that would make that guns accuracy at a 2.5" circle at 100yds. right?'" He was saying that he can get 2.5 moa with crap ammo, silver tip is 2 moa and and the other good stuff wolf gold and 7n1 he never shot. PSL is not SVD,and PSL some times preforms better with the cheap surplus ammo than with the Russian sniper(made fir SVD ammo),so when you get yours try different ammo and you will see what is the beast for her,some PSL like Polish,Ygo some CHZ and Bolgarin,Russian,and again its a guy behind the trigger what matters,just shoot it,get use to it and it wont disappoint you Why most people prefer Rom maid PSLs? is matching parts and not pinned muzzle brake,so if you are ok with that, get a sporster. But remind the guy that he selling a used gun,so may be he will give you a discount Edited March 19, 2011 by atakacorp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) thanks man its a sporter with rhineland wood ( the svd style )and extramag and a scope for 600 shipped.Not bad IMO . It hasa NoDak receiver right? Arent they sometimes better than romanian ones? Idont care much for matching numbers. here are the pictures of the gun http://imgur.com/a/fsQLl#LnF5R What do you think? Edited March 19, 2011 by MrOneEyedBoh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 You cant say batter or worse , its little bit of luck, I have 1967 old girl and I wont sell her,ever,she is a shooter,I know guys with newer 2000 and up rifles that are not very happy with them, so its a gamble like 80 to 20, that you will get a dissent rifle,so sporster looks good but again you will know after 200 rounds , good luck man and welcome to the club Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 haha thanks man. is there any "problem" areas with the PSLs I should have him photograph ? To check for issues Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 lets see bolt and bolt carrier separate , plus back trunnion . Barrel looks ok from what i can see. Is it going through FFL? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Yes he is from NY and I have an FFL here in MD that will do it from him. he doesnt have to send his gun to an FFL and get it shipped to MY FFL. He can send it on his own. More to it then that ( paperwork, DL etc ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Here are a few pictures of the bolt and BC http://imgur.com/a/Mr28Q#XjIuv Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Here are a few pictures of the bolt and BC http://imgur.com/a/Mr28Q#XjIuv looks good , I think its a winner Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 cool thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DHunter 1 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 You can't go wrong with the PSL. After replacing the heavy, gritty trigger with an RSA adjustable and switching to an 8X Russian PSOP scope I've really enjoyed mine. Also just finished replacing the Muzzle break with an AAC 51T Muzzle break. Unfortunately though, I'm still waiting for AAC to finish building the 762SDN6 suppressor that will attach to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Kenny 144 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I think the battle-zero for x54R is 20m/200m, but ~16" high at 100 yards is way too high. Should be about 3" high at 100, according to http://www.handloads.com/calc/ , using a 150gr, .310" spitzer bullet at 2700fps. I have a PSL and it shoots nicely (~1.5moa) with the crappy romanian trigger. A Tapco G2 is going in tonight, we'll see how she shoots as soon as it dries out. If I had $3000+ sitting around burning a hole in my pocket, I'd buy the Yugo M76. 8mm Mauser flies better than 7.62xanything, much better ballistic coefficient, and carries more energy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YEL13 3 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I think the battle-zero for x54R is 20m/200m, but ~16" high at 100 yards is way too high. Should be about 3" high at 100, according to http://www.handloads.com/calc/ , using a 150gr, .310" spitzer bullet at 2700fps. I have a PSL and it shoots nicely (~1.5moa) with the crappy romanian trigger. A Tapco G2 is going in tonight, we'll see how she shoots as soon as it dries out. If I had $3000+ sitting around burning a hole in my pocket, I'd buy the Yugo M76. 8mm Mauser flies better than 7.62xanything, much better ballistic coefficient, and carries more energy. AGREED!!! and relatively cheap 8mm is still floating around from time to time, of course if you can shell out three grande for a rifle I suppose ammo prices isn't as much of a concern.....but I digress lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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