saiganovich 1 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) Here's the situation: I'm a NY resident and have 2 saigas & a few handguns that I'm interested in bringing down to PA to shoot every now and then since I have some family that lives down there and I'll be spending my weekends there anyway. Just curious as far as to what I need in order to bring the weapons down from NY to PA to shoot hassle free? Permit of any sort? I'm asking because I have no clue, NY/NYC is headache enough to figure out, and I'm totally clueless as far as PA goes. And while I'm at it, any well priced gun/ammo spots around Hawley/Fawn lake area? Thanks! Edited March 21, 2011 by saiganovich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Your best bet is the check with the PA state police. But as far as permits you dont need any because we dont have permits to buy. Just to carry. You just walk into a store and walk out 10 min later with a gun (as long as you pass the background and have the $$$ .) Rifle and gun must be unloaded with mags, gun/rifle, ammo in separate areas. Like gun in trunk, mag in glovebox. Basically you cant keep them together or very close to one another. Still I would recommend you call the PA state police, tell them your plan and they'll tell you what you need to do. Most likely its just to make sure nothing is loaded and separate. Sorry dont know that area. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saiganovich 1 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Thanks! I'll try and give them a call and see what's what. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 +1 on making the call just to make sure. But I can't imagine there being any problems. PA is a "free" state, so anything you legally own in NY is good to go in PA. With NY's strict handgun laws, I'd be more concerned about if NY has anything in their law about leaving the state with a handgun. Given NY's whole "pistol permit" system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Penn DOES NOT RECOGNIZE NY STATE pistol permits!!! SO I would be careful with bringing a pistol to Penn. My father lives in Penn, I live in NY... we talk about this all the time as hes got a shitload of pistols that I will inherit when he dies, and I have to get my permit so I can be legal to posses them. neither state will recognize each others permits. The long guns you can just bring them. They are not an issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Penn DOES NOT RECOGNIZE NY STATE pistol permits!!! SO I would be careful with bringing a pistol to Penn. Reciprocity is only for concealed carry, not for simple possession. No state recognizes NY's pistol permits, because they're just possession permits, and almost no one has this restriction besides NY and a handful of other ban states. PA has no possession permit, so there shouldn't be a problem with a NY'er bringing handguns into PA, as far as PA law is concerned. But I wouldn't be surprised if NY has some stupid law saying an NY resident can't leave the state with a handgun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) http://www.nraila.org/recmap/pennsylvaniarec.pdf "Reciprocity is only for concealed carry, not for simple possession. No state recognizes NY's pistol permits, because they're just possession permits, and almost no one has this restriction besides NY and a handful of other ban states. PA has no possession permit, so there shouldn't be a problem with a NY'er bringing handguns into PA, as far as PA law is concerned. But I wouldn't be surprised if NY has some stupid law saying an NY resident can't leave the state with a handgun." This is not true.... http://www.nraila.org/recmap/newyorkrec.pdf Edited March 21, 2011 by Yeoldetool 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saiganovich 1 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I fall under HR218 as far as pistols go so I'm not too worried about that. Problem with NY is that there is the NY state law, the NYC law, and the Federal law, and somewhere along the lines most things seem to conflict with each law's interpretation in regards to firearms. I'll contact the PA State Police and let you guys know what they say! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 http://www.nraila.org/recmap/pennsylvaniarec.pdf "Reciprocity is only for concealed carry, not for simple possession. No state recognizes NY's pistol permits, because they're just possession permits, and almost no one has this restriction besides NY and a handful of other ban states. PA has no possession permit, so there shouldn't be a problem with a NY'er bringing handguns into PA, as far as PA law is concerned. But I wouldn't be surprised if NY has some stupid law saying an NY resident can't leave the state with a handgun." This is not true.... http://www.nraila.org/recmap/newyorkrec.pdf Weird. That doesn't make sense. Why would a state recognize a CCW permit from NY, when NY doesn't recognize anyone elses CCW permit? Kinda goes against the term "reciprocity". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 http://www.nraila.org/recmap/pennsylvaniarec.pdf "Reciprocity is only for concealed carry, not for simple possession. No state recognizes NY's pistol permits, because they're just possession permits, and almost no one has this restriction besides NY and a handful of other ban states. PA has no possession permit, so there shouldn't be a problem with a NY'er bringing handguns into PA, as far as PA law is concerned. But I wouldn't be surprised if NY has some stupid law saying an NY resident can't leave the state with a handgun." This is not true.... http://www.nraila.org/recmap/newyorkrec.pdf Weird. That doesn't make sense. Why would a state recognize a CCW permit from NY, when NY doesn't recognize anyone elses CCW permit? Kinda goes against the term "reciprocity". Yep, but it's always been like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 http://www.nraila.org/recmap/pennsylvaniarec.pdf "Reciprocity is only for concealed carry, not for simple possession. No state recognizes NY's pistol permits, because they're just possession permits, and almost no one has this restriction besides NY and a handful of other ban states. PA has no possession permit, so there shouldn't be a problem with a NY'er bringing handguns into PA, as far as PA law is concerned. But I wouldn't be surprised if NY has some stupid law saying an NY resident can't leave the state with a handgun." This is not true.... http://www.nraila.org/recmap/newyorkrec.pdf Weird. That doesn't make sense. Why would a state recognize a CCW permit from NY, when NY doesn't recognize anyone elses CCW permit? Kinda goes against the term "reciprocity". Yep, but it's always been like that. Thanks for the info. I should know better than to try to apply logic and sense to NY's gun laws, lol. Even though I never see it happening....I wish NY would just completely get rid of the whole "pistol permit" system. It's ridiculous, and does nothing. With the way NY politicians make handguns out to be, you'd think blood would be running in the streets in states where you can walk into a gunstore with a driver's license, pass a background check, and walk out with your new handgun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 http://www.nraila.org/recmap/pennsylvaniarec.pdf "Reciprocity is only for concealed carry, not for simple possession. No state recognizes NY's pistol permits, because they're just possession permits, and almost no one has this restriction besides NY and a handful of other ban states. PA has no possession permit, so there shouldn't be a problem with a NY'er bringing handguns into PA, as far as PA law is concerned. But I wouldn't be surprised if NY has some stupid law saying an NY resident can't leave the state with a handgun." This is not true.... http://www.nraila.org/recmap/newyorkrec.pdf Weird. That doesn't make sense. Why would a state recognize a CCW permit from NY, when NY doesn't recognize anyone elses CCW permit? Kinda goes against the term "reciprocity". Yep, but it's always been like that. Thanks for the info. I should know better than to try to apply logic and sense to NY's gun laws, lol. Even though I never see it happening....I wish NY would just completely get rid of the whole "pistol permit" system. It's ridiculous, and does nothing. With the way NY politicians make handguns out to be, you'd think blood would be running in the streets in states where you can walk into a gunstore with a driver's license, pass a background check, and walk out with your new handgun. LOL, You can't make sense of NY politics, no one can. You just have to keep in mind that when it comes to guns, there is $$$revenue$$$ in stupid laws. It is certainly not about logic, it's only about money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
recon701 1 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 I think it's ridiculous how hard they make it to get a pistol here in NY, but any 18 year old thug can walk into a Walmart and pickup a shotgun or rifle with 10x the firepower of a handgun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Are you saying Walmart shouldn't sell guns?????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
recon701 1 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 I'm saying they might as well sell handguns as easily as they do rifles or shotguns. It's dumb to make it harder to buy something with maybe a tenth the firepower of a rifle. Anybody who knows about weapons, knows a pistol is a last resort. NY state is just crazy about the handgun rules. I have no problem with anyone buying any type of weapon available, as long as they pass a background check. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) NY state is just crazy about the handgun rules laws. I have no problem with anyone buying any type of weapon available, as long as they pass a background check. There, fixed that for you. Which is EXACTLY what they do now! The rest of the paperwork is only about money for the State. There are certain types of weapons that simply aren't available in NY because of the laws. If you don't like the way thing are, let your senators and legislators know. "Store policy" is not state mandated. That is governed by the liberal owners and management of the store who DO let the politicians know by supporting their election campaigns. Walmart is noted for that. Edited March 23, 2011 by Yeoldetool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Or you could just move, South Carolina would welcome another gun owner 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saiganovich 1 Posted March 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Or you could just move, South Carolina would welcome another gun owner trust me, if I could find a job elsewhere, I would move in a heartbeat! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Or you could just move, South Carolina would welcome another gun owner +1. I did it. Not for the sole purpose of lax gun laws.....but that icing on the cake sure is delicious! Or you could just move, South Carolina would welcome another gun owner trust me, if I could find a job elsewhere, I would move in a heartbeat! What field of work are you in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 And I will after I retire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 You don't have to move all the way to SC. Just cross the southern NY border into Pa! Pretty much anything is allowed here. Just stay out of Philly if you want a class 3. (Not illegal just harder to get) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 You don't have to move all the way to SC. Just cross the southern NY border into Pa! Pretty much anything is allowed here. Just stay out of Philly if you want a class 3. (Not illegal just harder to get) But there's still that white, nasty devil powder we call snow, in PA!!! I keep a weather widget on my phone for here in SC and my hometown in NY, so I know the prime times to rub it in my friends/fam's faces! When I was still in NY, I worked right at the border of PA. Many times, I was tempted to just move right over the border, because I'd still be close to everyone, but closer to work and be "free". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Ok you got me on that. The weather here in sepa is still cold and I woke up yesterday and today to a snow covered car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Hate to do it to ya, but woke up and it's a nice 55 degrees out, turned into 75 and breezy, what a beautiful day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Ok you got me on that. The weather here in sepa is still cold and I woke up yesterday and today to a snow covered car. Yeah, I definitely don't miss that at all. The worst thing covering my car down here is the pollen. It's crazy. Yellow dust on everything outside this time of year. Never had a problem with allergies in my 27 years on this earth, but I'm sneezing like crazy and have watery eyes right now. Hate to do it to ya, but woke up and it's a nice 55 degrees out, turned into 75 and breezy, what a beautiful day Yup. Almost 80 right now, nice breeze and bright & sunny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XXasdf 29 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) I'm saying they might as well sell handguns as easily as they do rifles or shotguns. It's dumb to make it harder to buy something with maybe a tenth the firepower of a rifle. Anybody who knows about weapons, knows a pistol is a last resort. NY state is just crazy about the handgun rules. I have no problem with anyone buying any type of weapon available, as long as they pass a background check. shh!! thats sensible talk, not allowed in the empire state . Also our permits are no good as soon as we cross the Tappan Zee bridge but a NYC permit is good for the whole state. Crazy? IMO just a double standard. Edited March 24, 2011 by XXasdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
recon701 1 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I'm saying they might as well sell handguns as easily as they do rifles or shotguns. It's dumb to make it harder to buy something with maybe a tenth the firepower of a rifle. Anybody who knows about weapons, knows a pistol is a last resort. NY state is just crazy about the handgun rules. I have no problem with anyone buying any type of weapon available, as long as they pass a background check. shh!! thats sensible talk, not allowed in the empire state . Also our permits are no good as soon as we cross the Tappan Zee bridge but a NYC permit is good for the whole state. Crazy? IMO just a double standard. I wish we could just break away from NYC and make a new New York. They ruin everything for us! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CnRnut 3 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Just get a PA carry permit. Costs $26 and is good for 5 years. I got mine in 5 days,from the time I mailed it out till it came back. All total I'm good to carry in 24 states. ETA: I live in NY and have a NY permit. Edited March 24, 2011 by CnRnut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I was told today that as of Jan 1. any out of state permit request had to be filed in person. Can PA confirm that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CnRnut 3 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I was told today that as of Jan 1. any out of state permit request had to be filed in person. Can PA confirm that? March 31 2011 is the cut off. Get them in the mail boys!!!! http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/license_application.asp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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