6500rpm 670 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Did I win I ordered one anyway just to satisfy my own curiousity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga_rom 91 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 i had issues ejecting low brass when i first shot my saiga 12. in actuality, every single round was FTE. needless to say, this troubled me. however, i remembered that i had read on this forum that rotating my gas plug complete revolutions could fix the problem, so i did that, and now my saiga will successfully eject rounds about 95% of the time with low brass Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 What is the general consensus on Winchester Bulk pack ammo? (1200 fps, 1 1/8 oz, 7.5 shot) Is this stuff weaker or stronger than Federal bulk pack? Today I took out my S12 for the first time after reprofiling the gas block opening, and opening the three ports to .09375". The barrel is also 18.5" overall with a permanently attached 2.5" flash hider, so this is not helping things compared to a factory 19" barrel. Out of the box from the factory the gun has never malfunctioned with high brass, or 1300 fps birdshot. But the gun would stovepipe Federal bulk pack about 30-40% of the time if I recall correctly. I never shot the Winchester universal bulk pack with the factory ports. Now today, shot 15 Remington Sluggers on setting 1, no malfunctions (no surprise). Shot 25 Winchester Xpert 1325 fps 1 1/8 oz. 6 steel shot no malfunctions on setting 2. Then I shot the 100 rounds of Winchester Universal. I had 3 FTE (stovepipe) using the MD arms 20 round drum. No FTE with the OEM 8 rd. mag, but I did have one failure to feed where the shell jammed up into the top of the feed ramp, not sure what happened there. So overall I had 4 malfunctions out of 100 rounds with the Winchester Universal. I personally think that's pretty decent. But I'd still like it to run 100% will all ammo. I think I'll try a V-Plug and a MD Arms booster plug. Changing gas settings at the range with the factory plug is annoying anyways. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 What is the general consensus on Winchester Bulk pack ammo? (1200 fps, 1 1/8 oz, 7.5 shot) Is this stuff weaker or stronger than Federal bulk pack? Today I took out my S12 for the first time after reprofiling the gas block opening, and opening the three ports to .09375". The barrel is also 18.5" overall with a permanently attached 2.5" flash hider, so this is not helping things compared to a factory 19" barrel. Out of the box from the factory the gun has never malfunctioned with high brass, or 1300 fps birdshot. But the gun would stovepipe Federal bulk pack about 30-40% of the time if I recall correctly. I never shot the Winchester universal bulk pack with the factory ports. Now today, shot 15 Remington Sluggers on setting 1, no malfunctions (no surprise). Shot 25 Winchester Xpert 1325 fps 1 1/8 oz. 6 steel shot no malfunctions on setting 2. Then I shot the 100 rounds of Winchester Universal. I had 3 FTE (stovepipe) using the MD arms 20 round drum. No FTE with the OEM 8 rd. mag, but I did have one failure to feed where the shell jammed up into the top of the feed ramp, not sure what happened there. So overall I had 4 malfunctions out of 100 rounds with the Winchester Universal. I personally think that's pretty decent. But I'd still like it to run 100% will all ammo. I think I'll try a V-Plug and a MD Arms booster plug. Changing gas settings at the range with the factory plug is annoying anyways. I have run 400 round of Winchester universal with only two FTE's, the general consensus is though that it sucks and don't use it. The Federal pack sitting right next to it at Chinese Mart runs great as well one FTE and it's the same price. I am running the stock piston and plug set on 2 when I use these. I don't think it really matters at .22 a round. What matters to me is it unloading with no FTF or FTE the 10 rounders of critical defense into the moron standing in my hallway at 2 AM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snooter 6 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 no erection problems but low brass is a no no for me.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga_rom 91 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 no erection problems but low brass is a no no for me.... eh? you mean ejection? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmzzl 146 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 It would be an honor to test an MD puck or two :] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I picked 12 people from this thread to test one. You have a PM if selected. Basically everyone that seemed to have troubles. Testing offer closed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Is there a way to "clean" things up with out ending up with a mirror finish on the bolt/carrier? I don't care for the flashy-ness to been seen. Thsnks So don't take your gun apart in the field... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
montec 164 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I haven't shot mine yet but I'd give it a shot. still too cold for the range to be open. hopefully a couple weeks I can get out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aeternus 7 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I do, I have tried almost everything, it seems to be getting better with time/rounds shot but I still get FTE's. My specs...... Three port gun, had to enlarge to .093 One port hole partially covered, had to enlarge gas block hole. Added MD Arms Gas Plug. Added King Armory Gas Puck. It's improved a little bit but I still get atleast 1 or 2 FTE's on low brass. (Winchester Universal and Federal #6.) Slugs work fine on setting 2 with the MD Plug and Buckshot works fine on setting 3 with the MD Plug. Only other thing I could do is polish the bolt carrier assembly but i'm to chicken to try that by myself, I don't want to mess up the internals. Any other ideas? I know this gun is designed for buckshot and slugs, but, i'd like to be able to shoot birdshot and low brass reliably without any problems, buckshot/slugs are to expensive to use for target practice/fun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 +1 to you MD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I do, I have tried almost everything, it seems to be getting better with time/rounds shot but I still get FTE's. My specs...... Three port gun, had to enlarge to .093 One port hole partially covered, had to enlarge gas block hole. Added MD Arms Gas Plug. Added King Armory Gas Puck. It's improved a little bit but I still get atleast 1 or 2 FTE's on low brass. (Winchester Universal and Federal #6.) Slugs work fine on setting 2 with the MD Plug and Buckshot works fine on setting 3 with the MD Plug. Only other thing I could do is polish the bolt carrier assembly but i'm to chicken to try that by myself, I don't want to mess up the internals. Any other ideas? I know this gun is designed for buckshot and slugs, but, i'd like to be able to shoot birdshot and low brass reliably without any problems, buckshot/slugs are to expensive to use for target practice/fun. I closed the test offer but since you have a KA and still have fte's I am going to make you the last to receive a Booster for free to test. Please PM me your shipping info. You are going to see first hand the major difference between the Booster and the KA! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmzzl 146 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Any of the testers receive their piston yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aeternus 7 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Any of the testers receive their piston yet? Nope, still waiting for it to show up. I've already tried the King Armory puck and the Twister puck without any real difference so i'm anxious to see if Mike's booster piston will make a difference, have my video camera and ammo ready to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 I can't crack off a 5 round mag without at least 3 FTEs.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Any of the testers receive their piston yet? Nope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalilou 2 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 I can't crack off a 5 round mag without at least 3 FTEs.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Any of the testers receive their piston yet? I emailed Mike 2 weeks ago I think it was and he said the latest they'd ship would be Friday. Really, no one should make a big deal out of it (I'm not) as it's free so I'll wait as long as it takes for him. I should just purchase one anyways to continue to support MD Arms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmzzl 146 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Oh, no I wasn't making a deal out of it at all. I was just curious, and excited :]. I'd give all the time in the world to Mike. It's not often an opportunity such as this arises...and how many companies offer such great products, with service like his? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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YOT 3,743 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Any of the testers receive their piston yet? Not yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MLM0358 107 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 evlblkwpnz - I guess I did miss the smiley!!! Yes, this is a geat forum and I'm grateful to all the help from you all along the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gremlinx 20 Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Mine won't cycle Winchester from your drums , but will from my banana mags... Federal, it cycles whatever whenever... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Any updates on testers receiving their puck? Haven't received mine yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTR 1 Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 My 20 gauge does not cycle low brass. Cycles everything else fine. Send me one. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 TTR, Mike D already closed the test offer. We are just waiting on the test subjects in the mail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmzzl 146 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I can't wait for mine! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Any of the testers receive their piston yet? Not yet. Still not yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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