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Just finished the first round of conversion. Here is a report, challenges and findings.

 

1. Parts used

 

Tromix FCG

BOLT HOLD OPEN LEVER KIT

AXIS PIN RETAINING PLATE

Low brass reliability kit ( ETac gas puck, Gunfixers gas knob, low recoil spring)

M4 STYLE COLLAPSIBLE STOCK ADAPTER "COMMERCIAL SIZE" WITH ALUMINUM TUBE CAA.

M4 STYLE STOCK MAGPUL CTR "Commercial Size"

RECOIL PAD ENHANCED FOR MAGPUL MOE AND CTR STOCKS

TRIGGER GUARD - CAROLINA SS

TRIGGER GROUP HOLE PLUGS

GRIP AK/SAIGA SAW STYLE PISTOL

SGM Tactical 10rd Magazine

SGM Saiga 12 "The Gunner" muzzle brake

SAIGA 12 BARREL NUT

 

Did not polish any parts, except a bit of hammer surface.

 

2. Challenges.

Now I figured why CSS sells cobalt drills. My Black&Decker drill set is useless. 3/16 does not

even bite the riverts metal. Had to run to the Lowes to buy a good drill.

The screws for trigger guard are bigger diameter than holes from riverts.

CAA tube adapter does not fit 100%. Had to file apdapter surface where it conacts with the reciever. Plus CAA tube has sling

 

holder ring on each side close to receiver. It prevents using side mount for optic.

 

 

3. Range report

 

I know my Saiga shot Federal bulk pack without a problem before conversion, so I used it to begin with.

 

Heat 1 - Federal ammo - Gunfixer Gas setting #2

Factory 5 round mag - Ok

Keepshooting 5 round mag - Last round FTE

Surefire 10 round mag - 9th round FTE

 

Gunfixer Gas setting #3

Surefire 10 round mag - No issues

 

 

Heat 2 - Winchester Universal ammo - Gunfixer Gas setting #2

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Keepshooting 5 round mag - 1 FTE

Surefire 10 round mag - Multiple FTE

 

Gunfixer Gas setting #3

Surefire 10 round mag x 3 - No issues

 

Heat 4 - Estate 7.5 1235 FPS - Gunfixer Gas setting #2

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Keepshooting 5 round mag - Multiple FTEs

Surefire 10 round mag - Multiple FTEs

 

Gunfixer Gas setting #3

Keepshooting 5 round mag - OK

Surefire 10 round mag x 2 - OK

 

Heat 5 - Remington BuckShot 00 ammo - Gunfixer Gas setting #+1

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Surefire 10 round mag - OK

 

Heat 6 - Remington Slugger slugs - Gunfixer Gas setting #-1

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Keepshooting 5 round mag - OK

Surefire 10 round mag - OK

 

Heat 7 - Rio slugs - Gunfixer Gas setting #2

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Keepshooting 5 round mag - OK

Surefire 10 round mag - OK

 

Heat 8 - Winchester Supreme 00 1450 FPS - Gunfixer Gas setting #-1

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Surefire 10 round mag (5 rounds loaded)- OK

 

Heat 9 - Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 Slug + 3 pellets - Gunfixer Gas setting #-1

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Surefire 10 round mag (5 rounds loaded)- FTEs, switched to #+1 ok.

 

Overall I am very satisfied. Recoil now a bit lighter.

 

Looks like Surefire mag requires increased gas settings for certain loads. it's a brand new though. Has anyone experienced this as well?

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Nice! Those CTR stocks are really starting to grow on me (like the aluminum tube choice also)! I wonder how hard it would be to fit a limbsaver pad (grind to fit) to it? :super:

Just finished the first round of conversion. Here is a report, challenges and findings.

 

1. Parts used

 

Tromix FCG

BOLT HOLD OPEN LEVER KIT

AXIS PIN RETAINING PLATE

Low brass reliability kit ( ETac gas puck, Gunfixers gas knob, low recoil spring)

M4 STYLE COLLAPSIBLE STOCK ADAPTER "COMMERCIAL SIZE" WITH ALUMINUM TUBE CAA.

M4 STYLE STOCK MAGPUL CTR "Commercial Size"

RECOIL PAD ENHANCED FOR MAGPUL MOE AND CTR STOCKS

TRIGGER GUARD - CAROLINA SS

TRIGGER GROUP HOLE PLUGS

GRIP AK/SAIGA SAW STYLE PISTOL

SGM Tactical 10rd Magazine

SGM Saiga 12 "The Gunner" muzzle brake

SAIGA 12 BARREL NUT

 

Did not polish any parts, except a bit of hammer surface.

 

2. Challenges.

Now I figured why CSS sells cobalt drills. My Black&Decker drill set is useless. 3/16 does not

even bite the riverts metal. Had to run to the Lowes to buy a good drill.

The screws for trigger guard are bigger diameter than holes from riverts.

CAA tube adapter does not fit 100%. Had to file apdapter surface where it conacts with the reciever. Plus CAA tube has sling

 

holder ring on each side close to receiver. It prevents using side mount for optic.

 

 

3. Range report

 

I know my Saiga shot Federal bulk pack without a problem before conversion, so I used it to begin with.

 

Heat 1 - Federal ammo - Gunfixer Gas setting #2

Factory 5 round mag - Ok

Keepshooting 5 round mag - Last round FTE

Surefire 10 round mag - 9th round FTE

 

Gunfixer Gas setting #3

Surefire 10 round mag - No issues

 

 

Heat 2 - Winchester Universal ammo - Gunfixer Gas setting #2

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Keepshooting 5 round mag - 1 FTE

Surefire 10 round mag - Multiple FTE

 

Gunfixer Gas setting #3

Surefire 10 round mag x 3 - No issues

 

Heat 4 - Estate 7.5 1235 FPS - Gunfixer Gas setting #2

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Keepshooting 5 round mag - Multiple FTEs

Surefire 10 round mag - Multiple FTEs

 

Gunfixer Gas setting #3

Keepshooting 5 round mag - OK

Surefire 10 round mag x 2 - OK

 

Heat 5 - Remington BuckShot 00 ammo - Gunfixer Gas setting #+1

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Surefire 10 round mag - OK

 

Heat 6 - Remington Slugger slugs - Gunfixer Gas setting #-1

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Keepshooting 5 round mag - OK

Surefire 10 round mag - OK

 

Heat 7 - Rio slugs - Gunfixer Gas setting #2

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Keepshooting 5 round mag - OK

Surefire 10 round mag - OK

 

Heat 8 - Winchester Supreme 00 1450 FPS - Gunfixer Gas setting #-1

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Surefire 10 round mag (5 rounds loaded)- OK

 

Heat 9 - Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 Slug + 3 pellets - Gunfixer Gas setting #-1

Factory 5 round mag - OK

Surefire 10 round mag (5 rounds loaded)- FTEs, switched to #+1 ok.

 

Overall I am very satisfied. Recoil now a bit lighter.

 

Looks like Surefire mag requires increased gas settings for certain loads. it's a brand new though. Has anyone experienced this as well?

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No need to put a limbsaver on the CTR they make a nice recoil pad that fits that stock also Larue makes a really nice metal cheek riser if you got HK style sights on it.Some other people make a plastic risers but they are not as nice IMO.

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