IndyArms 10,186 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I have just received word from a VERY close friend of mine, who works for the government, that the ATF has decided to classify the Saiga 12 as a DD ( Destructive device ) The survey they were doing recently has laid the groundwork for this decision. Due to the configuration so readily adaptable to a "nonsporting configuration" and with the broad availability of drum magazines, they have finally done what we all hoped would never happen. The ruling will take effect in 30 days from the official announcement... Pre-ownership will allow a grandfathering clause, with registration of the prior owned shotguns. Obviously this also will require that there will be NO MORE S12's imported into the usa... so consider the S12 a thing of the past... If you got one now... you are lucky... if not... you had best get one soon... there will NEVER be any more!!! We KNEW this was coming... just a matter of time!!! God I hate to be the bearer of BAD NEWS... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
termite 463 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Glad I just purchased 10 of them with drums, now I can retire with money to spare. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Stole my idea. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Koljec 37 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 well, if it were true, classic arms has a shipment of 12s due in mid april...same price as most nowadays $699... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 well, if it were true, classic arms has a shipment of 12s due in mid april...same price as most nowadays $699... Classic says that NOW.... but I bet if you ask again in a week, the price will be at least DOUBLE! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bernerz 11 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Well, if it's true that ought to be interesting, or maybe April 1st has something to do with this post? Edited April 1, 2011 by bernerz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inzami 36 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Comments on the study are accepted until May 1 so technically there's time for shipments if they are released. April 1st! Edited April 1, 2011 by Inzami Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stansplace 414 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I hate April Fools Day around here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Lol! Out of curiosity, how does DD work? I assume if you have it prior to the change your cool. Could you buy/sell one later? Can you take it to the range or does it turn into a safe queen? Does 922 still apply? Edited April 1, 2011 by Arik Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 The problem is, this joke could end up becoming the truth soon enough. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
physicsnerd 139 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Holy. Freakin. Bucket. Crap. Indy, you totally got me. Well done sir. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YARP 300 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 funny indy......verrrrrrrrrry funny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volkov 318 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 oh you jackass.. Good one sir. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dandiesel 16 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 DAMN IT YOU BEAT ME TO IT................... TERD. SERIOUSLY I WAS EXITED ABOUT GOING TO WORK JUST TO GET ON AND POST THIS .....F%&%*K . This will have ramifications for a while to come lol.. I guess it hit me to late... I'll beat ya next year though. I have just received word from a VERY close friend of mine, who works for the government, that the ATF has decided to classify the Saiga 12 as a DD ( Destructive device ) The survey they were doing recently has laid the groundwork for this decision. Due to the configuration so readily adaptable to a "nonsporting configuration" and with the broad availability of drum magazines, they have finally done what we all hoped would never happen. The ruling will take effect in 30 days from the official announcement... Pre-ownership will allow a grandfathering clause, with registration of the prior owned shotguns. Obviously this also will require that there will be NO MORE S12's imported into the usa... so consider the S12 a thing of the past... If you got one now... you are lucky... if not... you had best get one soon... there will NEVER be any more!!! We KNEW this was coming... just a matter of time!!! God I hate to be the bearer of BAD NEWS... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDriver 23 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 OK, you really should've tried to work a RickRoll into that, but good job.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 DAMN IT YOU BEAT ME TO IT................... TERD. SERIOUSLY I WAS EXITED ABOUT GOING TO WORK JUST TO GET ON AND POST THIS .....F%&%*K . This will have ramifications for a while to come lol.. I guess it hit me to late... I'll beat ya next year though. I have just received word from a VERY close friend of mine, who works for the government, that the ATF has decided to classify the Saiga 12 as a DD ( Destructive device ) The survey they were doing recently has laid the groundwork for this decision. Due to the configuration so readily adaptable to a "nonsporting configuration" and with the broad availability of drum magazines, they have finally done what we all hoped would never happen. The ruling will take effect in 30 days from the official announcement... Pre-ownership will allow a grandfathering clause, with registration of the prior owned shotguns. Obviously this also will require that there will be NO MORE S12's imported into the usa... so consider the S12 a thing of the past... If you got one now... you are lucky... if not... you had best get one soon... there will NEVER be any more!!! We KNEW this was coming... just a matter of time!!! God I hate to be the bearer of BAD NEWS... I doubt it... You want to get some chuckles... go back to previous April 1st posts of mine... I think you will find some QUITE clever. I have had a pretty good run for the past few years now... Just remember youth and speed will NEVER overcome AGE and treachery... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyE 81 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 DAMN IT YOU BEAT ME TO IT................... TERD. SERIOUSLY I WAS EXITED ABOUT GOING TO WORK JUST TO GET ON AND POST THIS .....F%&%*K . This will have ramifications for a while to come lol.. I guess it hit me to late... I'll beat ya next year though. I have just received word from a VERY close friend of mine, who works for the government, that the ATF has decided to classify the Saiga 12 as a DD ( Destructive device ) The survey they were doing recently has laid the groundwork for this decision. Due to the configuration so readily adaptable to a "nonsporting configuration" and with the broad availability of drum magazines, they have finally done what we all hoped would never happen. The ruling will take effect in 30 days from the official announcement... Pre-ownership will allow a grandfathering clause, with registration of the prior owned shotguns. Obviously this also will require that there will be NO MORE S12's imported into the usa... so consider the S12 a thing of the past... If you got one now... you are lucky... if not... you had best get one soon... there will NEVER be any more!!! We KNEW this was coming... just a matter of time!!! God I hate to be the bearer of BAD NEWS... I doubt it... You want to get some chuckles... go back to previous April 1st posts of mine... I think you will find some QUITE clever. I have had a pretty good run for the past few years now... Just remember youth and speed will NEVER overcome AGE and treachery... If these exact words show up in a BATF press release announcing a DD determination And we'll know they read this forum! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volkov 318 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 to be honest there are very few people it would have worked from. I clicked on it wondering which moron was saying the sky is falling now... saw it was Indy and my heart skipped a beat. Again, well done. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufWV60QfCTw&feature=related Edited April 1, 2011 by Mullet Man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Dam thats not even funny I just go so f-ing pissed off you don't want to know what words were coming out of my mouth. Glad my kid was not home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redfish28 50 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Its cool. I love Double Ds. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DHunter 1 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Indy you freak'n hack! You're going to give an old fart a heart attack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redfish28 50 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 You know what sucks. Last time the whole ATF thing started, and everyone started panic buying I just sat back and watched. During that time I was in need of some mags and every time I tried to get on one; the vendors were sold out. This time, this little fools day trick sent me straight to CSS's web site to purchase more mags. Damn you........ Ah, well I guess I should thank you. Needed them anyway, and was just to lazy to order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 This stuff is not funny. With the most anti gun regime occupying the White House we shouldn't joke about this. We have a threat to our rights like never before in American history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 I knew someone was going to do this! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CPE1704TKS 24 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 I knew someone was going to do this! Actually, I heard that NFA was about to be ruled unconstitutional. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 I hate April Fools Day around here. +1 Yes, it is kinda ignorant when in the tech forums and causes a lot of confusion with the newbs. At least this is in GD where it belongs. Thank you Supermod Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BronCobraJet 80 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Lol! Out of curiosity, how does DD work? I assume if you have it prior to the change your cool. Could you buy/sell one later? Can you take it to the range or does it turn into a safe queen? Does 922 still apply? On my USAS-12, it was ok to own if you bought it before Congress ruling went into effect. You have to register it with the BATF and your local police force, by providing them a copy of your finger prints and a photo ID. I am under the impression that I cannot dispose of it or sell it or give it away to any person unless they have a class 3 license. You can buy sell one later with a class 3 license. Maybe a stamp/background check? not sure. You would think, if they allowed you one DD, that you would have unlimited access to grenades, and dynomite, and other DD's. I sincerely doubt that, lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) Lol! Out of curiosity, how does DD work? I assume if you have it prior to the change your cool. Could you buy/sell one later? Can you take it to the range or does it turn into a safe queen? Does 922 still apply? On my USAS-12, it was ok to own if you bought it before Congress ruling went into effect. You have to register it with the BATF and your local police force, by providing them a copy of your finger prints and a photo ID. I am under the impression that I cannot dispose of it or sell it or give it away to any person unless they have a class 3 license. You can buy sell one later with a class 3 license. Maybe a stamp/background check? not sure. You would think, if they allowed you one DD, that you would have unlimited access to grenades, and dynomite, and other DD's. I sincerely doubt that, lol. No such thing as a Class 3 license. The only reason you would need a Class 3 SOT status is if you intend to deal in NFA. You can sell or transfer the NFA device without a license. You would have to have the purchaser *do a Form 4 request for transfer ownership. And actually, if you file the proper NFA forms, you can get as many grenades, and other DD's permitted you pay the imposed bullshit tax on each one. *edited to clarify Edited April 3, 2011 by beefcakeb0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quicken 4 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 great, just great. WTF am I supposed to do with 40 Saiga 12's I just bought this morning???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.