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Conversion of my gun went smoothly this winter, and I actually sold it without firing it to a buddy.

 

Today he goes to the range, and gun won't fire at all. He has decided there is an issue with the firing pin.

 

"Interesting one", I say to myself. Never heard of an AK not firing, or Saiga supplying a faulty bolt/firing pin.

 

 

 

I converted the gun and never disassembled the bolt, it is as it arrived from the factory.

 

 

 

This friend is extremely impatient. He will take the whole gun apart in a fit and lose a small part, most assuredly. He knows zero about AKs.

 

Can someone help me out here (not with the don't sell guns to friends part, as he and I constantly trade)?

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If he has tampered with the gun there is no way to tell what is wrong from the little information. You looking it over would be the best way to find out. Or take some pictures of the inside and post em up to make sure everything is assembled correctly.

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If he has tampered with the gun there is no way to tell what is wrong from the little information. You looking it over would be the best way to find out. Or take some pictures of the inside and post em up to make sure everything is assembled correctly.

 

Will do that. Just insanely curious how a Saiga does not go bang right off the bat.

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UPDATE:

 

"AK specialist" he spoke with says the Saigas need ammo with a "more exposed primer"......and that he should switch ammo. O......K?

 

 

Tell your buddy, to tell his "specialist", that hes fucking stupid. Dont try to explain anything, just let him know.

 

 

I agree, too little info. Take a look at the rifle yourself and see whats going on with it.

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an AK is simple just look at it and you will figure it out.

 

either the hammer is not striking the firing pin, the firing pin is damaged, the ammo is not being seated properly on the bolt or your friend has really bad luck and got a bad ammo batch

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Hammer in the wrong way? It sounds stupid but it's definitely been done before.

 

Could be ammo related, but doubtful. Likely firing pin related if it's not something in the FCG.

 

Did you test-fire this before conversion, and rule out any factory defects? It's really unusual to have a part that far out of spec, but it could happen.

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Hammer in the wrong way? It sounds stupid but it's definitely been done before.

 

Could be ammo related, but doubtful. Likely firing pin related if it's not something in the FCG.

 

Did you test-fire this before conversion, and rule out any factory defects? It's really unusual to have a part that far out of spec, but it could happen.

 

 

what he said!!!

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Hammer in the wrong way? It sounds stupid but it's definitely been done before.

 

 

if the hammer is in backwards, it usually wont catch on the disconnector when the ammo is loaded by the carrier movement. you can tell by simply removing the dust cover and watching what happens.

 

 

also check to see if a firing pin is even in the bolt. would be odd if the factory worker had forgotten to install it.

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Hammer in the wrong way? It sounds stupid but it's definitely been done before.

 

 

 

 

also check to see if a firing pin is even in the bolt. would be odd if the factory worker had forgotten to install it.

Im not sure that would even be possible, unless every person on duty that day was sleeping on the job.

 

They test fire every weapon. If it malfunctioned it would have been sent back.

 

Im thinking joe schmoe friend know it all had fubared it .

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Hammer in the wrong way? It sounds stupid but it's definitely been done before.

 

 

 

 

also check to see if a firing pin is even in the bolt. would be odd if the factory worker had forgotten to install it.

Im not sure that would even be possible, unless every person on duty that day was sleeping on the job.

 

They test fire every weapon. If it malfunctioned it would have been sent back.

 

Im thinking joe schmoe friend know it all had fubared it .

 

yeah, i think it is something in the FCG also. Just so few parts, there arent many options.

 

also, i agree that the "specialist" is very wrong. saigas eat all 7.62 ammo without trouble.

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Conversion of my gun went smoothly this winter, and I actually sold it without firing it to a buddy.

 

You did the conversion/restoration yourself? Then sold it without performing a basic functional firing test... is that correct?

 

I believe the OP stated they never fired it. But firing and a function test is very different. A function test wouldnt really resolve much in a fail to fire as long as the hammer was dropping and resetting upon charging the handle. But I see where you are going.

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are ther any light marks or dents in primers fireng pin may be to short

 

Great suggestion to check for. A friend had this happen before.

 

A large amount of money appeared before my eyes without me ever firing the gun.........

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It function checked just as in the CSS videos I watched when converting it. My Saiga was identical in appearance and function as in the instructions and CSS demo gun.I pulled the trigger after cocking it and it dry fired just as it should have. I never got it to the range because my friend begged me and paid me to sell him the gun there and then. I did not say no.

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What about cosmoline built up in the bolt? I've heard of needing to clear it all out with mineral spirits or carb cleaner spray.

 

I will have pictures shortly, but light primer strike seems to be the issue.

 

The pin is hitting the ammo (Federal ammo btw) but nothing occurs? I don't have the gun to try it with other ammo yet.

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Who could have "fubar'd" the bolt? How does that happen, there's literally nothing to the bolt. If you shake it, and it rattles, it's fine. It's pretty hard to fuck it up even if you take it apart and put it back together 1000 times.

 

 

My gut tells me you have no idea what you're doing/talking about

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