FORKLIFT352 63 Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 I got lots of hulls and I would like to load some #4 buck or even 00 buck..... Any idea on a wad and powder charge? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 any federal gold medal loads using that same combo... just remember that the cardboard base in the hulls will not last as long as the moulded ones... and you need to inspect EACH LOADING for damage to the base wads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Thanks Bro, I have the Lymanns shot shell book but dident know how the feds fit in the mix. Every time I go to the range I dump 100 of them and I just can't throw them out.( I'm sutch a pack rat) LOL! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted May 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 I tryed the gold medal AND hunting loads. 27 #4 buck don't fit...... Any other ideas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 how much does 27 pellets of #4 buck WEIGH? Perhaps you can drop down to 22?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted May 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 1.20 oz. I have had good luck with 23 using the Fed. 12S4 wad.( that would be using the gold medal recipe.) Their is the "Fed. Plastic hunting cases,paper base- wad" recipe.....it calls for the WAA12R wad. but it is to "deep" I gess I'll have to add a over powder card and the WAA12R wad and see if 27 pellits fit. I'm not sure I want to be " wildcating" recipes for 12 gauge......but if I'm going to end up with 400+ Fed. Hulls a mo. I would like to make them SHTF Big Boy ammo....lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted May 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Shot my 21 and 22 #4 buck shells to day....Thay worked very well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) Load recipe...... Fed. Bulk hull Win. 209 primer 32.0 gr. SR 7625 Fed. 12S4 wad 23 ea. Nickel plated #4 buck (from Precision reloading) buffer very thin 20 gauge card bord 8 point fold crimp Edited May 11, 2011 by FORKLIFT352 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted May 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I am working on a 00 buck load with same hull I haven't shot it yet but we will see this week end Fed bulk hull Win. 209 primer 33.0 gr. Blue dot Fed. 12S4 wad 9 ea. 00 buck buffer very thin 20 gauge card bord 8 point fold crimp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted May 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 The 00 buck worked very well. I think I'll bump up the charge to 34 gr.Blue dot. I will be going to the range first Sat. in June. will report back. I like the idea of going to the range. And comeing home with 100 hulls for SHTF ammo and a smile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 I have a shitlode of the fed huls. and am getting a reloader. what is a good reloader Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 MEC Jr. You could find one for 50.-75.00 used 150.-175.00 new.Simple to work.Do a youtube to get an idea. One could go cheeper with a Lee load all. I got one used but havant tryed it yet. I like the MEC because it can do 3" shells. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 do the progresive type reloaders work when loading slugs and buck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I would think thay could but thay start at 600. I wantend a prog.pres but at that price....no With an hour or so of practuse you can bash out 100 rounds in less than an hour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 The promlem is I can dump 100 rounds a lot faster than that. I have been watching reloders on ebay some progresive types sell for 250 ish depending. What does anybody think of the mec 9000 or the hornaday 366? I dont know how they work with buck and slugs. I think with the saiga12 and the amount of ammo I want to go through I would not be satisfied with a step by step reloder and would end up buying a progresive anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted May 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I have a Hornady LNL for my other guns and like it very much. Maybe you should call Hornady and ask about buck and slugs. I would bet thay are more for bird shot.... For the most part I shoot the fed bulk at the range.And wanted a way to reload big boy rounds a little cheeper. Remember buck shot aint cheep. I use nickel plated (harder than any reg.lead or copper) a 10 lb. bag is 39.00 then theirs shipping. I think you will get about 200 rd. of #4 buck per 10 lbs. I'm working on a 10 lb. Bag of 00 buck right now. But still working up a load. So my gess would be 200 as well. Remember I'm saving my big boy rounds for a rainy day.....and blowing off the fed.bulk for good times. If you want to allways shoot buck then you might save a little money waaaaaaay down the road. but the hulls really should only be reloaded 2 times Now you are talken 250+ for a press 50. for 10 lb of buck and 20+ for powder 40. For primers. and that's just for about 200.-250 rounds. You can get 250 rd. of factory buck for 109.00 I'm just saying for the price your looking at for equipment you can get a MEC and lots of buck and powder and primers AND more fed bulk. But of corse if I had gobbs of money.....sure i would go the rout your talking about. & And that would be because I would be shooting my ass off......but like I say that's what the fatory Fed. Bulk is for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Well I ended up getting the horniday 366. found it at a garage sale $400 for brand new never opened press, 1000 win aa hulls, 25lbs shot and several books Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 200 one ounce loads from a ten pound bag??? I am not sure where you learned math... one ounce of lead is one ounce! There are typically 16 ounces to the pound. That would seem to figure 160 ounces in 10 pounds. And... if lead were weighed in troy weight... you could expect 120 ounces in ten pounds. Regardless ... where can I buy a lead stretcher to get an extra Two and a half pounds of lead from a ten pound bag of lead? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 I said about......i get 70 rds. From a hornady 5# box of 00 buck. ( 9 pills ea.) The stuff I get in a 10 # bag is nickel plated so I would guess the weight to volume to be more volume. But you would be right 200 rdz. From a 10 # bag would be nice. Hay deadeye can we have some pics.? If I remember right that press gos for 800. right? Any who, good luck with that. Annnnd remember me in your will...LOL I think Balistic Products has 00 on supper sale (nick plate 8# 26.00...or sumthen like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 This reloader kicks ass. progresive is the way to go. The only thing that sucks is when you screw up and you have 7 shells all in difrent stages. Also I have a once in a while primer that seats to deep. I havent figured out what is going on there. It is only maby 1 out of 20 that seat to deep. Any advice would be apreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 if you are using new hulls...you might be pushing the new primer in to hard.... if you are using old hulls the primer pocket might be beat up and no good.... that's all I got...hope it helps. hey are you using 00 buck? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 most of the hulls I have look fairily new but they came with the reloader so I dont know how many times the have been used. I havent bought any buck yet. just 7 .5 shot and green dot powder. So far I have made a little over 500 rounds. I just drives me crazy when they dont fire and the primer is pushed in to deep. I have a lot of good rounds just a fiew that are that way. How do I tell If I am pushing the primer in to hard. I alwase go down till the handle hits the stop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 For shits and giggles i would get a bag (100ea.) of none primed hulls and see if you get the same results..... Orrrrrrr a bulk pack of winchester shoot em up and reload.....eather way if all 100 do well then it was the beat up hulls. And if you still got the same prob.......you might seat primer a little slower and not so hard. On my Hornady LnL you can jam that primer in to deep....but not with out trying. hope that helps.........pics please Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Scrounge all the Win AA and Rem Premier hulls you can find, as long as they're clean. There's TONS of data for them and they run through the action as slick as greased owl shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I use a MEC junior press... and out of the THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of reloaded rounds with it... I have NEVER... *NEVER* set a primer too deep... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 so, this may be the wrong thread to ask this, but, you can use low brass shells to reload with? a random guy at the range this weekend said it wouldnt work, he tried it. i am pretty sure that when you guys say rem bulk you mean low "brass". so he was mistaken? didnt know how to do it? i wanna do #4, buck etc, but i dont wanna have to stick exclusively with hi brass. and what i remember reading on here in the past is that you only get like 2 reloads outta each shell and then its trashed? thanks!!! ps, indy, i worked over in rome for a few weeks once. its interesting up there. i was driving too slow and a granny was raging on me!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 I use low brass feds for 00 and#4 buck I got some on the forth cycle. But that was for experimental purposes only. I shoot off the factory bulk just for fun. Then load up the Buck and save for a rainey day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 so, this may be the wrong thread to ask this, but, you can use low brass shells to reload with? a random guy at the range this weekend said it wouldnt work, he tried it. i am pretty sure that when you guys say rem bulk you mean low "brass". so he was mistaken? didnt know how to do it? i wanna do #4, buck etc, but i dont wanna have to stick exclusively with hi brass. and what i remember reading on here in the past is that you only get like 2 reloads outta each shell and then its trashed? thanks!!! ps, indy, i worked over in rome for a few weeks once. its interesting up there. i was driving too slow and a granny was raging on me!!!! You can reload ANY hull you want to... the problem is that with MOST cheap low base hulls they use a formed paper base wad which will deteriorate over time and cause issues. In the case of Remington Nitro Gold, and STS hulls they are LOW BASE but have a one piece formed basewad/hull so by the time the base wad detereiorates, the hull is already split to hell and not reloadable. I can get EASILY a half dozen reloads out of these hulls if not more. I just inspect them when reloading. Any hulls that have splits by the crimp petals, or side walls are tossed. If they wont crimp right, those get disassembled and tossed too. If I start running low on Nitro gold hulls I spend the money on 4 new boxes at walmart... shoot them and have brand new hulls to reload again. Win A&A hulls are good too... but some of the newer ones do not have the one piese hull/basewad... they load the same, but arent quite as good in my opinion... but again... you can get MULTIPLE loadings from these easily. I also used to reload the CHEAP federal top gun hulls ONCE for plinking-practice-just for fun trap loads ( as opposed to competition trap loads when shooting on leagues... ) These hulls had the molded paper base wad and reloaded just fine. I just would not want to load them a LOT... Hope all that helps a little bit to clarify. I would stick with high base hulls when loading for magnum loads, and hi power loads as ther higher brass base adds some structure and strength to the lower part of the shell. Sure you can load any load in a low base hull... just make sure the load data concurrs... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Looks like kind of an old thread, but I thought I would add that there are some good buckshot and slug loads on the Hodgdon website. And +1 on the Remington STS/Nitro hulls. The local sporty's store here has some Peters trap loads that appear to be the same hulls, but in blue. And they are a couple bucks cheaper per box than the Remmy ammo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Kenny 144 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Oh, just for an interesting thought, my 3-gunner buddy found out that 1oz of #6 shot carries a little more smack to the steel plates than 1oz of #8. All other data the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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