HarvKY 72 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I know Keltec has their new dual tube shotgun that they are "fine tuning" since its debut at ShotShow, but I just noticed this series of rifles in .223/5.56. As usual, Keltec has some neat looking designs. I know they get slammed as far as quality, but I like their attempts at pushing the envelope(for the mass market that is). You can check out all 7 models at the main website but here are 3 versions (each with some cool features): The standard rifle: http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/su-16a/ "Charlie" model with folding stock which allows you to fire folded: http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/su-16c-2/ "D" model in 2 lengths, combat style, under 20" folded: http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/su-16d/ Saw a couple on Gunbroker under MSRP. Hope some folks grab one and give us a report Cheers, Harv Quote Link to post Share on other sites
datrowl 111 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Good little rifle, I like mine. Its no AR.. but for a backpacker, camp gun, casual shooter... its a perfectly good alternitive. The wife actually prefers it to my tricked out AR due to the weight difference. It is what it is, and for what it is, its ain't bad. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyMinion 300 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Cannot get passed how hideous it looks. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heath_h49008 442 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I have the PLR-16... the pistol version. I love it. It runs AR mags, doesn't jam, she's amazingly light. Would it be good for a few hundred rounds of suppressive fire on full auto? No. Is it more reliable than direct gas impingement? Hell yes! I'm getting an SU for my GF as well. AKs and ARs are too heavy for her tastes, but she loves the Kel tec. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 The C model is probably the best bang for your $. Check out NutinFancy's review. I know some people think he's a dork but at least you get to see the rifle in action and decide for yourself instead of just reading about it. I know im probably gonna end up getting one just for something fun in a 223. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob-cubed 74 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 The SU-16C is a good little shooter. Quite accurate and very lightweight, mine has run 100%. But as others have said it's no battle rifle... feels like a toy gun due to all the plastic and the folding stock is prone to breakage if you fall on it the wrong way. But once you get past the pig-ugly looks it's actually a good special-purpose rifle where weight or compactness is important. The combination of an AK-style piston with an AR bolt was pretty revolutionary when it came out, of course now there are plenty of piston AR hybrids. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GREYLUPO 358 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I try and try I just cant seem to like Kel Tech anything. If Kel Tech was a woman she would be Rosie O donnal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heath_h49008 442 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Try the RFB... Absolutely sweet. .308 bullpup love baby. I was looking at the SU16-c, but then adding the "E" kit for the PLR16 pistol grip and AR stock. Put a side folding hinge on her and roll. The only thing you can't really use it for, that you can an AR, is suppressive fire. But the AR doesn't stand up that damn well for it either. The SAW was designed for a reason. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I want to get a RFB,PMR-30,and a KSG. The rest are to fugly.But I wouldent down any one for having one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 The SU-16C is a good little shooter. Quite accurate and very lightweight, mine has run 100%. But as others have said it's no battle rifle... feels like a toy gun due to all the plastic and the folding stock is prone to breakage if you fall on it the wrong way. But once you get past the pig-ugly looks it's actually a good special-purpose rifle where weight or compactness is important. The combination of an AK-style piston with an AR bolt was pretty revolutionary when it came out, of course now there are plenty of piston AR hybrids. Kel Tec just came out with a lower to fit this rifle that will transform it into (almost) a AR. If I already had one I would be all over this: Kel Tec Sadly, for the cost of the SU-16 and this lower I can get a AR already built... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I remember back in 2004 or thenabouts I was in the market for a .223 rifle. I was having a tough time deciding between the SU-16 and the AR-180B. I eventually got the AR-180B, but I always had a hankering for the Kel-Tec. The subsequent models of SU-16 only made it worse! I miss that AR-180B though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
racolqui 19 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) I believe the are more reliable than an AR but not as much as an AK. Edited July 15, 2011 by Palidin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 I have a Kel-tec SU2000 in my sights. Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
racolqui 19 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 I love mine. Its accurate and reliable with any ammo I feed it. As for tough well view this. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5935333007505323905&q=KEL+TEC&hl=en 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Sweet! Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ktcm7271 999 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 I wish they'd make a sub-2000 in .45acp with 1911 mags! I read that they get asked that question a lot, but have no plans to make one. That new Hi-point 45 carbine is too damn ugly, and the only mags it uses are 8rd Hi-point and 10rd Pro-mag. No thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
racolqui 19 Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 (edited) I wish they'd make a sub-2000 in .45acp with 1911 mags! I read that they get asked that question a lot, but have no plans to make one. That new Hi-point 45 carbine is too damn ugly, and the only mags it uses are 8rd Hi-point and 10rd Pro-mag. No thank you. I would have liked a .45 also (I have a 9mm Glock and a .40 S&W Glock) but I don't think they will ever produce one. The stuff they make now + the SBS that is supposedly coming are popular enough they can't keep up with the demand now. They won't increase production capacity because of our Current administration (just my opinion). If they actually pull off everything they (the current administration) want to there will be no more weapon manufacturers in the US and eventually they will try to get ever weapon in private owner ship. So if they have to shut down at least they can cut there losses. That is not the worst of things. If they (the current administration) accomplish everything they want we will have a country equal to Germany in 1939. I hope our people will wake up and impeach all of these jokers. In my opinion we don't need the current style government we have now anyway. It was established before modern communications when some one had to travel to a central location (Washington) and voice the opinion of the people he or she (have to be socially correct) was representing. To day the elected officials don't do what 98% of there constituents want any way. They usually have agendas of there own. There are already more laws on the books than they can enforce. With modern technology 98 % of the population could vote on a new law if one was needed and we would save the billions of dollars we pay a unproductive (most likely corrupt) government. Just My, Edited July 16, 2011 by Palidin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I have a Kel-tec SU2000 in my sights. Yakdung Champions has them for a great price on their website. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cryogaijin 33 Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I'm quite tempted by a B locally. Folds up tighter than the C, stores a magazine in the stock. Would be my first .223, a caliber I'm not particularly fond of. Is a bit mousefart IMO, but I consider the SU-16 to be among the best survival style rifles in the world. And you can't beat Kel-tec's lifetime warrentee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I have a Kel-tec SU2000 in my sights. Yakdung Champions has them for a great price on their website. Thanks. The price is approximately what I'm paying locally. Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longhorn 81 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 +1 on the .45 sub 2000! I had a 9mm and I could hit bowling balls at 100m without much effort. Not bad for what it is, cheap plastic sights and all. I had to sell it when I lost my job though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desolo 55 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I love my 9mm Sub 2000.... Id love it if they made it in .45, but I imagine a 10mm one that took Glock 20 mags would be freaking awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Parson Julabee Jones 32 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I love my 9mm Sub 2000.... Id love it if they made it in .45, but I imagine a 10mm one that took Glock 20 mags would be freaking awesome. If I had to liquidate my collection, the SU-16C with "E" stock would be the last to go. Same with my pistols. The PF9 is a lot of 9mm in a little, easily concealed package, and I'll be handing on to ituntil the cows come home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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