setlab 11 Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 That stupid gas puck clanks back and forth when the gun is tilted up or down. Somebody needs to invent a reliable gas puck that doesn't move with gravity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 How is this an issue? I like it. It means my gas block is clean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Maybe I have an undersized puck, but my gun runs better when the puck is a little dirty. So i dont clean that section of the gas chamber much, just run a brush through it once in a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GONIF 7 Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Puck it ,I can't hear that good anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobRez 1,895 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 What's up? are you Disco Dancing with your Saiga or something?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
setlab 11 Posted May 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 What's up? are you Disco Dancing with your Saiga or something?? Sometimes I like to stay fresh but sometimes I don't Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 If you don't want it to move back-and-forth, shoot it some. It'll fix itself in time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
setlab 11 Posted May 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 (edited) Ya but I hate built up crud in my guns. Plus I have noticed that after a lot of cheap wallmart stuff my saiga starts to malfunction, I have a suspicion it is because of the dirty gas chamber area. Edited May 14, 2011 by setlab Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 (edited) Ya but I hate built up crud in my guns. Plus I have noticed that after a lot of cheap wallmart stuff my saiga starts to malfunction, I have a suspicion it is because of the dirty gas chamber area. My suspicion is that your gas system isn't adequate. The most rounds I've run consecutively is 229, and without a failure, of course. I have no issue whatsoever claiming it could go 500 rounds without any issues. 1000 would be a stretch, but I'd be willing to try. Edited May 14, 2011 by TwentyNizzo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 I did ~330 rounds in one sitting a long time back... Only issues were with the promag stick mags. All well documented on this forum. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/39097-durability-test/page__hl__durability+test Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JAldrich2008 28 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 I haven't cleaned my gas block since deer season. I dump out the loose crap every 100 rounds or so, but other than that I just let it be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 feeding the dam thing LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glennhmd 23 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 The only thing I really hate about sagias are: they're so much fun to shoot, my wallet and right shoulder are aching. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Ya but I hate built up crud in my guns. Plus I have noticed that after a lot of cheap wallmart stuff my saiga starts to malfunction, I have a suspicion it is because of the dirty gas chamber area. My suspicion is that your gas system isn't adequate. The most rounds I've run consecutively is 229, and without a failure, of course. I have no issue whatsoever claiming it could go 500 rounds without any issues. 1000 would be a stretch, but I'd be willing to try. After my 300 round dump video, I fired another 100 rounds, not including some slugs and buck (probably a total of 40 rounds max). With the gas regulator properly set from the start and fitted/broken in mags, I think a properly tuned S12 can go 100 rounds at a steady pace without cleaning. However, if it is allowed too cool for too long, I think the shit biscuit in the gas block could sieze the puck. If I had 40 more drums I would try it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Evlblck: I think you should do a video testing how many rounds you can shoot before the fouling causes a failure. As you are shooting the 5 rounders, someone off camera could be reloading the drums for you. Also you should use all federal so if a failure occurs it couldn't be chalked up as the Winchester causing it. This would be a great test for you as we all know that your gun runs great. On a side note, my gun also runs flawlessly but don't have enough drums/mags. I also do not even know how to post videos on utube, I'm sure I could figure it out but you have all the mags nessesary for this test. What do you think? You have proven that you can physically do it. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bridis 319 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Send him some money for ammo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
setlab 11 Posted May 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 I must have a weird gun then, I'll put Id say a good 150 rounds of bulk ammo threw it without a problem then my sagia starts to occasionally fail to eject all the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Hartley 526 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 A buddy of mine bought an R&R Saiga about a year and a half ago and wanted to see how long it would run without cleaning. After 550 rounds he started to get FTEs and he asked me how to clean it. I explained how and told him to use a wire brush on the puck. He said "I would but I'm afraid to damage the o-rings on the puck". O-rings, what o-rings? He had built up a solid carbon deposit in both grooves in the puck and thought they were supposed to be there. Ran like champ after cleaning. Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaseface 41 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) I've shot over 200 rounds straight with the stock gas system and no problemo, I would have kept going but we ran out of clays Edited May 15, 2011 by chaseface Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Evlblck: I think you should do a video testing how many rounds you can shoot before the fouling causes a failure. As you are shooting the 5 rounders, someone off camera could be reloading the drums for you. Also you should use all federal so if a failure occurs it couldn't be chalked up as the Winchester causing it. This would be a great test for you as we all know that your gun runs great. On a side note, my gun also runs flawlessly but don't have enough drums/mags. I also do not even know how to post videos on utube, I'm sure I could figure it out but you have all the mags nessesary for this test. What do you think? You have proven that you can physically do it. Lol I think.... Fuck those 5 rounders If Mike has another $80 drum sale or will give me bulk pricing, I may buy some more of them and do another insane run. 1000 rounds out of 50 drums might fit in a 10 minute video, but I would probably have to use an aluminum handguard and vert grip because of the heat issue. I would be proud to be the guy to do it, but I don't have as much money as it may seem at times. Ammo isn't a big deal, but mag cost is the problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 That would be awesome, I did not even think about the heat. That could be a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaseface 41 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 I think you would have one fried S12 after a thousand straight rapid fired rounds without allowing it to cool. I bet you could get the barrel and gas system glowing red no prob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 I dont see why the test has to be consecutively fired rounds. If anything, letting the gun cool down, waiting a day between shooting, etc. is 1) more realistic of use and 2) probably tougher on the gun as the fouling will solidify and possibly lock up the puck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Maybee just try a 400 rd dump to start with. That would be a nice test. Maybee a few min cooling period in between each 100. Hopefully the price of drums drops soon, or doublestacks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BronCobraJet 80 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I was using a King Armory gas puck in mine, and shot 345 rounds through it with no problem. Flawless. Fast fire, drum dumps, plinking. Mixture of winchester cheap stuff, federal cheap stuff and about 50% or more winchester 00Buck and slugs. Never had a problem or misfire/misfeed all day long. I clean it every time I take it out, gas tube and everything, completely dissasemble and grease it up and oil it before the next outing. Clean is happy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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