Old SF MJT 7 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 I recently picked up a steel Galil mag to see if it would work in my .223 Saiga. I was hand-cycling rounds through in order to get a sense of how it might work in actual operation. everything was going along fine till I gotdown to the last 4 rounds. With those rounds, I got a FTF - the bolt rode over top them & jammed them into the top of the chamber, badly denting the cases. Any thoughts of guidance? Thanks in advance, Old SF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bohound 281 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) I've had a few of those too... I think it's a bad spring. At the price I got them for, I just set them aside, marked. They'll be for parts or as a backup. I have not chased springs down yet, I heard they're kind of tough to find... Win some, lose some. The steel Galil's are generally "hit or miss"... ETA: That said, I'm really happy with my steel Galil mags. Edited May 21, 2011 by bohound Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swells08 128 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 I've had a few of those too... I think it's a bad spring. At the price I got them for, I just set them aside, marked. They'll be for parts or as a backup. I have not chased springs down yet, I heard they're kind of tough to find... Win some, lose some. The steel Galil's are generally "hit or miss"... ETA: That said, I'm really happy with my steel Galil mags. Not one of my promags ever gave me issues...lmao just kidding! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bohound 281 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 I've had a few of those too... I think it's a bad spring. At the price I got them for, I just set them aside, marked. They'll be for parts or as a backup. I have not chased springs down yet, I heard they're kind of tough to find... Win some, lose some. The steel Galil's are generally "hit or miss"... ETA: That said, I'm really happy with my steel Galil mags. Not one of my promags ever gave me issues...lmao just kidding! Big Dog- Didn't anybody ever warn you not to piss off a pregnant red head? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) I have six steel 35-round mags. Three of them work 100% of the time, one of them works so long as I haven't wobbled it all the way right, and the other two fail half the time. Like bohound says: hit or miss. Also, for safety's sake, I suggest investing in some dummy rounds. Edited May 22, 2011 by DrThunder88 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chupa 34 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I recently picked up a steel Galil mag to see if it would work in my .223 Saiga. I was hand-cycling rounds through in order to get a sense of how it might work in actual operation. everything was going along fine till I gotdown to the last 4 rounds. With those rounds, I got a FTF - the bolt rode over top them & jammed them into the top of the chamber, badly denting the cases. Any thoughts of guidance? Thanks in advance, Old SF Did you modify the mags at all. I did this. I have 4, 35 rounders and 2, 50's that feed perfect. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/15274-galil-50-got-it-to-work/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ensign G-Vill 2 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I bought 4. Two of them seem to be perfect, one of them is hit or miss and the last one sucks. I pushed my finger down into the magazine to test the springs and the bad one isn't as strong as the good kind. I got a caliber clipper thing to measure the magazine lip width and clamped them to be the same width of my surefire 30rd magazine. I used a dremel to cut out some of the pieces of my original factory saiga magazine to fit my saiga with bullet guide to act as my control and it fired through no problems at all. It seems the magazines with weak springs are the culprit. My 2 dodgy galil mags will usually mess up on the last round but first round and others they work and no problems. Last rounds with those usually ride under or over the bullet guide and end up at the top, up against the roof of the dust cover. I'm going to tinker with the two dodgy magazines it's 25 dollars there and I don't make much so I want to keep and fix all I got. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikebaker1129 19 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I think I have some spare Galil magazine springs . Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteRabbit 4 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Even the unissued magazines have relatively weak springs, compared to Bulgarian Circle 10s and Tapco Galils. The springs are also capable of rusting, although not quite as fast as the body which has been noted to rapidly (a few weeks) grow fresh rust on parts without finish even indoors with the AC on. They also sit lower in the gun than Tapco's version, and attain a 35-round capacity by omitting the anti-tilt follower. Mine like to stovepipe on the last few rounds, but only sometimes. Some say it's because of how low they sit in the gun but I tried grinding and building up material on one magazine to match a Tapco Galil and I think the problem got better but did not go away - clearly the magazines are inhabited by the vengeful spirits of dead Palestinians who simply do not want them to work. IMHO they're more trouble than they're worth. They do make for reliable and sturdy paperweights with which to hold down stacks of paper targets at the range while you run hundreds of rounds smoothly through Bulgarian Circle-10s and lightly modified guaranteed-Palestinian-ghost-free Tapco Galils... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Kenny 144 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Or just replace the spring&follower with new production TAPCO, but it sounds like it'll cost you a few rounds capacity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bohound 281 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 clearly the magazines are inhabited by the vengeful spirits of dead Palestinians who simply do not want them to work. Funniest thing I've seen here in a long time! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikebaker1129 19 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 CDNN did offer replacement springs for Steel 35rd Galil mags. I picked up a few just to have on hand. It might be worth a phone call or email? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joseph 141 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) well you could allways use AR springs and floor plates, takes a little doing but not a biggie "6 bucks for 3 packs on followers springs and plates basically anywhere", but steel galil mags need lots of mods to work first time every time and its different every time. because no two mags are alike.i don't think the South African source + the used surplus condition contribute to the drop in and function perfectly thing that people want. oh and they are made for an entirely different gun, that can't help. Edited July 10, 2011 by Joebanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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