ozone_00 3 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 When I did my conversion a few months back I got a UTG Combat Pad for Dinzag, and man is that thing hard as a rock. Anybody else own one of these and have the same problem? I've heard other brands of Grenade launcher style recoil pad being a lot softer. Is there some trick to soften it up or should I just get a new one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 What stock are you using? There are tons of slip-on pads on the market. I love the Kick-eez pads and Limbsaver are decent too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guns Are Great 140 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) I bought one from DSC online and it was hard rubber also but it is a much better quality than the soft flimsy one I got from amazon which I think they called it a utg style? Its costly (another 30-35 dollars for limbsaver pad and glue) but if you take the rubber slipon pad you have and cut it at the holes then sand level, (leaving the slipon part closed is better= more surface area to glue to) you can purchase a grind to fit limbsaver pad (Large Size) and super glue/epoxy them together and grind edges to match and it makes an awesome recoil pad! I made mine this way and it works like a dream and and i even cut mine alittle close making the bottom of the slip on part open dounut style =less to glue to but still working after 1250-1500 rounds. I can also move it to any other ak/vz style stock I have. When I did my conversion a few months back I got a UTG Combat Pad for Dinzag, and man is that thing hard as a rock. Anybody else own one of these and have the same problem? I've heard other brands of Grenade launcher style recoil pad being a lot softer. Is there some trick to soften it up or should I just get a new one? Edited May 22, 2011 by Guns Are Great Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnaite 43 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I made mine myself, I plastic-wrapped some medical cotton and then tapped it to the stock with chatterton tape, it makes a small cushion, it's very confy. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 You pussies need recoil pads? LMMFAO! Learn to pull that stock in tight, don't give it room to kick ya. J/K My first day out left me with a beautiful shoulder shiner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) I did a similar cooze to find how thick I wanted. I cut out layers of neoprene and stacked them and then taped it on with black tape. It was ugly as heck, but worked well enough that I still haven't taken it off one of my s12s. 5 layers was what I liked for length of pull. PS if you choose to do a grind-to-fit, I have been told the best technique is to use a course belt sander and leave the pad in the freezer a while before grinding. It makes it firmer and which makes it easier to shape and leaves a nicer texture. Edited May 23, 2011 by GunFun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BronCobraJet 80 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 The first person that comes up with a butt/recoil pad with gel - like those bicycle seat deals or the shoe inserts, except with a gel and holding system that can absorb the recoil will be a millionaire. Unless that is what the Limbsavers do, then you will be just stealing their design (I have no clue what they utilize - but it ain't $65 dollars worth of rubber) Fucking tires don't cost much more than that. I don't know, but hard or even soft rubber just don't cut it. There is no excuse in this day and age with all the tennis shoe people making all kinds of rebound, absorbing shit, why we should have to put up with a piece of hard rubber. And it will be made in China, so there is no reason we should have to pay 100 bucks for a piece of Chinese hard rubber - or even a new improved piece of hard rubber. It really should be simple and cheap. Shouldn't have to pay 1/10th the cost of the gun for a decent alternative. Limbsavers $65? that's just stupid. Instead of all these new people wanting to make a killing on rails and mall ninja stuff, why don't they consider the simple, lowly recoil pad. Make millions one buck at a time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BronCobraJet 80 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 When I did my conversion a few months back I got a UTG Combat Pad for Dinzag, and man is that thing hard as a rock. Anybody else own one of these and have the same problem? I've heard other brands of Grenade launcher style recoil pad being a lot softer. Is there some trick to soften it up or should I just get a new one? I bought a grenade launcher style recoil pad for my Romanian folder, and it is nice and soft and cushy without being "squeezy". It was $16 bucks. I don't remember where I bought it. it was from an AK place online. It had a cheap velcro strap, but I had to end up zip-tying it on to hold it in place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 The true granade pads are much softer than the aftermarket UTG. The UTG pad is best for adding length and surface area. Both will fit any style factory stock (fixed, side, and underfolder). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bpipe95 8 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 I recently picked up a houge unit for ~$25 and it works great. I had to make an adapter for the stock I am running but I see no need to spend ~65 on the more expensive units. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heath_h49008 442 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) The first person that comes up with a butt/recoil pad with gel - like those bicycle seat deals or the shoe inserts, except with a gel and holding system that can absorb the recoil will be a millionaire. Unless that is what the Limbsavers do, then you will be just stealing their design (I have no clue what they utilize - but it ain't $65 dollars worth of rubber) Fucking tires don't cost much more than that. I don't know, but hard or even soft rubber just don't cut it. There is no excuse in this day and age with all the tennis shoe people making all kinds of rebound, absorbing shit, why we should have to put up with a piece of hard rubber. And it will be made in China, so there is no reason we should have to pay 100 bucks for a piece of Chinese hard rubber - or even a new improved piece of hard rubber. It really should be simple and cheap. Shouldn't have to pay 1/10th the cost of the gun for a decent alternative. Limbsavers $65? that's just stupid. Instead of all these new people wanting to make a killing on rails and mall ninja stuff, why don't they consider the simple, lowly recoil pad. Make millions one buck at a time. They already have it. http://www.gunaccessories.com/AA&ELeathercraft/Recoil-Pads.asp I'm 90% sure these are the ones at my local shop, and they are made of awesome... but so am I so I don't use one. Edited May 23, 2011 by Heath_h49008 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daughertym 15 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) When I did my conversion a few months back I got a UTG Combat Pad for Dinzag, and man is that thing hard as a rock. Anybody else own one of these and have the same problem? I've heard other brands of Grenade launcher style recoil pad being a lot softer. Is there some trick to soften it up or should I just get a new one? The pad shown on your avatar, is the one I have. Large surface area and soft, but not too soft. Can't find where I got mine, but this site has it. http://www.rusmilitary.com/images/gp_recoil_pad.jpg Edited May 23, 2011 by BigD45 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 I tell ya the one Izmash puts on the S.308-ver.21 is pretty nice. Not too soft, not too hard, doesn't try to roll to one side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heath_h49008 442 Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 I was looking for a good one for the AR t6 type stock. Most I have found were almost as hard as the stock itself. The "gel" strap on felt nice, but I could see it falling off rolling around in the dirt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steveb327 13 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Posted 23 May 2011 - 09:28 PM I tell ya the one Izmash puts on the S.308-ver.21 is pretty nice. Not too soft, not too hard, doesn't try to roll to one side. _________________________________________---- Can you please give the dimensions of that? Distance between screw holes? I think it's too long for a factory AK polymer stock, but I'd love to know for sure. I can't believe how hard it is to find one. The SGM is great, but only for izmash factory stock. The UTG is too big. The excess material can only snag on crap. Has anyone successfully cut it down? I know the limbsaver can be ground to fit, but that's not an option. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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