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This weapon platform has massive possibilities, right out of the box. It's light 7 3/4 lbs. with chokes, LRBHO with release, steel mags, changeable barrels, no doubt in short order an ass load of after market stuff to play with this is a great weapon system for the money. At First I was a little turned off with the fill of the stock, as did a few others around the shop when shouldering it, but like all new things it just takes a moment to get use to, the next day muscle memory adjusted and without thinking, shoulder it with combat speed comfortability. I think out of the box this is one of the best weapon systems for the money I've seen.

 

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3 changes I'll be making out of the box:

 

1.) Front and rear sights are plastic, they're gone! Maybe a set of flip up, maybe a new chaos sights design.

 

2.) Although chokes are great for many, I really don't use them, they're gone! And in their place a thread adapter for the warthog :super:

 

3.) The plastic hand guard is so gone! I think people can figure out what will happen here. :devil:

 

The stock and lower being one piece is a draw back, this should be interesting!

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Looking forward to seeing what your madness brings about :devil:

 

If the standard "conversion" on an S-12 is moving the FCG forward, perhaps the standard "conversion" on these shotguns will entail the divorce of the buttstock from the receiver to enable acceptance of other stocks...

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I like a good mod choke myself. A mod choke with a mini-breecher on the end would be cool as well as an aluminum front sight (cut down weight) and like you said, a flip up rear sight. I like the fixed front sights on ARs, I never really had an issue with putting on a riser for optics.

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I like your ideas with the gun, and also thanks for another review, i slowly feel myself turning toward this gun, and if you make a quad rail for this gun, and a descnt sighting system like you're saying, i'm sold, i especially what that quad rail, dude you'll make a butt-load off of that alone..

 

 

Keep up the Great work CHAOS

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I can see great things happening here.

 

With a decent forearm and a better set of sights, that thing is sure to be a hot seller. I am getting a lot of question from my customers about this gun and the availability of aftermarket parts. If you are the first one out of the block you could stand to make a fortune on it.

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I can see great things happening here.

 

With a decent forearm and a better set of sights, that thing is sure to be a hot seller. I am getting a lot of question from my customers about this gun and the availability of aftermarket parts. If you are the first one out of the block you could stand to make a fortune on it.

 

 

Bingo Mate,

 

 

I don't even own a SAIGA but I'm going to get one very soon, just researching on here, and Then I see the MKA-1919, and since I already have Pictanny accesories on my current AR, then this gun can use a alot of the same parts, without having to spend extra $$ to convert, also if Mike a MD arms makes a drum for this thing, he's going to be raking in the bucks with this new gun as well.

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There are no interchangeable parts with an AR.

 

I doubt a drum can be designed for this gun; the magwell is pretty deep and the feedstack would have to be long.That being said, you're right, no "conversion" necessary.

 

And we've already designed the AR stock adapter, gas lock-out and billet lower.

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There are no interchangeable parts with an AR.

 

I doubt a drum can be designed for this gun; the magwell is pretty deep and the feedstack would have to be long.That being said, you're right, no "conversion" necessary.

 

And we've already designed the AR stock adapter, gas lock-out and billet lower.

 

Is the upper the serialized part or the lower? Billet lowers might breath hope for NY members to get a thumbhole on these things(even if you might have to make your own)

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There are no interchangeable parts with an AR.

 

I doubt a drum can be designed for this gun; the magwell is pretty deep and the feedstack would have to be long.That being said, you're right, no "conversion" necessary.

 

And we've already designed the AR stock adapter, gas lock-out and billet lower.

 

If a dual drum can be built for an AR-15, a drum period can be made for this thing. You might need a beer for frustrating days at the design board but I believe it can be done.

 

"Impossible, is only a word." Mohammad Ali

 

Like I said, I'm looking forward to this. :)

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There are no interchangeable parts with an AR.

 

I doubt a drum can be designed for this gun; the magwell is pretty deep and the feedstack would have to be long.That being said, you're right, no "conversion" necessary.

 

And we've already designed the AR stock adapter, gas lock-out and billet lower.

 

Is the upper the serialized part or the lower? Billet lowers might breath hope for NY members to get a thumbhole on these things(even if you might have to make your own)

Both upper and lower are serialized.

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There are no interchangeable parts with an AR.

 

I doubt a drum can be designed for this gun; the magwell is pretty deep and the feedstack would have to be long.That being said, you're right, no "conversion" necessary.

 

And we've already designed the AR stock adapter, gas lock-out and billet lower.

 

Is the upper the serialized part or the lower? Billet lowers might breath hope for NY members to get a thumbhole on these things(even if you might have to make your own)

Both upper and lower are serialized.

Many weapons have the barrel, slide, lower and other parts serialized. I think the intended question was "Which serialized part is considered a firearm by the BATFE?".

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There are no interchangeable parts with an AR.

 

I doubt a drum can be designed for this gun; the magwell is pretty deep and the feedstack would have to be long.That being said, you're right, no "conversion" necessary.

 

And we've already designed the AR stock adapter, gas lock-out and billet lower.

 

Is the upper the serialized part or the lower? Billet lowers might breath hope for NY members to get a thumbhole on these things(even if you might have to make your own)

Both upper and lower are serialized.

:wet_eyes: no fun for NYers unless someone comes out with a thumbhole stock lower or something.

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There are no interchangeable parts with an AR.

 

I doubt a drum can be designed for this gun; the magwell is pretty deep and the feedstack would have to be long.That being said, you're right, no "conversion" necessary.

 

And we've already designed the AR stock adapter, gas lock-out and billet lower.

 

 

I didn't mean like barrell swaps or anything my terminology was off, when I was saying interchangable parts, i meant by like adding stuff to a quad rail ETC like flash lights, MBUS sights, HK sights what ever not like i was swapping parts out.. Thanks for making me correct my vocabulary..

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There are no interchangeable parts with an AR.

 

I doubt a drum can be designed for this gun; the magwell is pretty deep and the feedstack would have to be long.That being said, you're right, no "conversion" necessary.

 

And we've already designed the AR stock adapter, gas lock-out and billet lower.

 

 

Bob,

 

The billet lower really excites me, due to being in NY we can not have a shotgun with a pistol grip. IF you were able to make a lower that can accept that (though really ugly) thumb hole AR stock you would open up a huge market. Good luck!

 

I will keep my fingers crossed!

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Fapp3r, my responses here are made for the larger audience. I wasn't concerned about what you actually meant, but I want to be clear about the details of the gun. Sorry if you felt insulted.

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I do not understand the feeling for a drum that will be bulky, heavy and unwieldily. The MD drum is actually bigger than I personally like but to each his own.

My preference is stick mags in the 12-15 round range. 15 is probably too much but they would hopefully be at least 10.

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I do not understand the feeling for a drum that will be bulky, heavy and unwieldily. The MD drum is actually bigger than I personally like but to each his own.

My preference is stick mags in the 12-15 round range. 15 is probably too much but they would hopefully be at least 10.

 

Yep, if a matter of preference. To me, the length of those stick mags makes them a no-go.

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Fapp3r, my responses here are made for the larger audience. I wasn't concerned about what you actually meant, but I want to be clear about the details of the gun. Sorry if you felt insulted.

 

no bro not at all i never felt like i was insulted, i just need to learn to english better, now back to this sexy firearm...:red_heart:

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could this design be a way around the magwell depth issue? http://www.brownells...R_reg__MAGAZINE still early in the game but worth looking into

 

 

A single sided drum config like that would be grossly unbalanced I would think. One thing for a rifle mag with much lighter ammo but that many rounds of shotgun on one side would be way out of balance but who knows.

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could this design be a way around the magwell depth issue? http://www.brownells...R_reg__MAGAZINE still early in the game but worth looking into

 

 

A single sided drum config like that would be grossly unbalanced I would think. One thing for a rifle mag with much lighter ammo but that many rounds of shotgun on one side would be way out of balance but who knows.

 

probably so, but i just saw it as a way around the magwell...but i don't think there's that much weight difference between 90 rounds of 5.56 and 20 rounds 12 gauge

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