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It's sad, but a lot of animals are eradicated, either thru PETA, presumably, or your local animal shelter. I really don't comprehend how puppy mills and legitimate breeders make money, compared to all the animals that are slaughtered by shelters alone. People should get smart and neuter their animals if they aren't going to breed them. Don't blame any one group, even though they may promote animal welfare. The sad truth is these animals would end up a much worse existance, or horrible death. Blame the public for not taking in strays and taking care of them. I have never paid for a dog, and never will. All of my dogs are from OOPs! mistakes or homeless. I have no intention of breeding dogs, just loving them the best I can and giving them the best care I can. It's so little to give for all the rewards you receive. Even "problem" dogs respond to love and care. When you have 100,000 dogs and only 1,000 takers, what are you to do? It's sad, but we are a throwaway society. And we don't need any smartasses saying "well, we could give them to the Chinese, yuk yuk". I do what I can, one dog at a time. (well, three or four dogs at a time) I'm not for or against PETA, but this isn't PETA's fault at all. Have you gone to your local shelter lately? Have you adopted a pet lately? Do you support your local shelter with food, blankets, toys, and money for drugs? I currently have BoJangles, Monaco, and Scoubiedeaux, all orphans, and wouldn't trade them for anything in the world. Become part of the solution. Most times, an abandoned pet, even from, or especially from a shelter, once it gains your trust, will be the best friend you could ever imagine. All they want is love, and they will give it back like you can't believe. And they will repay the the friendship 100 times over.

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Hear, here, BronCobraJet

 

Couldn't have said it better, except for two minor points. First, none of us need to breed our animals, that's adding to the population problem unless you're a top-shelf breeder and truly have something to improve the breed genetically.

Second, PETA and all of those liberal socialist sphincters who feel their primary purpose on the planet is to dictate everybody else's business can kiss my ass.

 

Spay and neuter your pets, your liberal neighbors, and definately all convicted child molestors.

 

GO WEST!in 2012

Allen West = TRUE GRIT!

 

JMHO...

-guido

 

It's sad, but a lot of animals are eradicated, either thru PETA, presumably, or your local animal shelter. I really don't comprehend how puppy mills and legitimate breeders make money, compared to all the animals that are slaughtered by shelters alone. People should get smart and neuter their animals if they aren't going to breed them. Don't blame any one group, even though they may promote animal welfare. The sad truth is these animals would end up a much worse existance, or horrible death. Blame the public for not taking in strays and taking care of them. I have never paid for a dog, and never will. All of my dogs are from OOPs! mistakes or homeless. I have no intention of breeding dogs, just loving them the best I can and giving them the best care I can. It's so little to give for all the rewards you receive. Even "problem" dogs respond to love and care. When you have 100,000 dogs and only 1,000 takers, what are you to do? It's sad, but we are a throwaway society. And we don't need any smartasses saying "well, we could give them to the Chinese, yuk yuk". I do what I can, one dog at a time. (well, three or four dogs at a time) I'm not for or against PETA, but this isn't PETA's fault at all. Have you gone to your local shelter lately? Have you adopted a pet lately? Do you support your local shelter with food, blankets, toys, and money for drugs? I currently have BoJangles, Monaco, and Scoubiedeaux, all orphans, and wouldn't trade them for anything in the world. Become part of the solution. Most times, an abandoned pet, even from, or especially from a shelter, once it gains your trust, will be the best friend you could ever imagine. All they want is love, and they will give it back like you can't believe. And they will repay the the friendship 100 times over.

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Funny, people/PETA was all up in arms about horse slaughter for food or other wise. Yet when they banned slaughter for any reason, the lives of many horses across the nation became harder because the owners could no longer afford to care for all the extra horses.

 

PETA blamed overbreeding, yet made NO congtingency to deal with the HUGE influx of, often neglected/ill, horses to the shelters/rescues. Typical liberal stupity.

 

I'm not against the slaughter of any animal for food, provided it's done as humanely as possible. I'm not found of the way MOST slaughterhouses are run, btw. I've eaten dog. My 1st Sgt's wife was Korean, and it used to be sold in the Commissary. Pretty good if cooked right. Same with Coyote. That said, I've never eaten one of my pets. No need to. Would I want one to go to slaughter? No.

 

Point is, we have a GROWING Metropolitin mentality(all animals are pets) in this country and we NEED to get back to a more practical Rural mindset(there's pets and there's livestock and if needs be, they're one and the same). I wouldn't mind if they made spay/nuetering manditory and fined those who breed by "accident" or inferior animals, and I DO NOT mean by "Show Standards" which is a large part of the problem with ALL breeding. If it's not to better the species as a whole(esp health wise), it shouldn't be bred.

 

But then I feel that way about us humans as well. We shouldn't be breeding ourselves, let alone other animals, when we KNOW it will pass on genetic defects. It's bad enough in a "hit or miss" situation but when it's a given. No. Unfortunately, we are tending to breed indiscriminately more and more. In some ways it's good, keeps the pool from being TOO "clean" and thus suseptible to outside issues. In other ways, it's bad, as it continues issues that would/should die out if not for all of our advanced medicine.

 

Sorry, didn't mean to become a rant.

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bps12, i could not agree with you more. i live in a virtual zoo. by my own choice. seven dogs, three of which are rescued. six cats, four of which are rescued.additionally there are twenty four laying hens and currently raising eighteen more.

we spay and neuter ASAP the dogs and cats.

if i had the land, i would add goats and highland cattle.

as far as humans are concerned, some common sense eugenics would make for a much healthier and happier populous.

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Hello

Hear, here, BronCobraJet

 

Couldn't have said it better, except for two minor points. First, none of us need to breed our animals, that's adding to the population problem unless you're a top-shelf breeder and truly have something to improve the breed genetically.

Second, PETA and all of those liberal socialist sphincters who feel their primary purpose on the planet is to dictate everybody else's business can kiss my ass.

 

Spay and neuter your pets, your liberal neighbors, and definately all convicted child molestors.

 

GO WEST!in 2012

Allen West = TRUE GRIT!

 

JMHO...

-guido

 

I'm agreeing more with you than with BronCobraJet. I do agree mostly with what he's saying but there's no way I won't put blame on PETA for what they are doing. That's where the "Hypocrisy" part comes in. People are led to believe that Peta will help find homes for unwanted pets but that simply isn't the case. This is mainly because their agenda is elsewhere, as you mentioned. If PETA wanted to be transparent then they would tell people that there is over a 95% chance their pet will be euthanized rather than placed elsewhere. I have a hunch donations would drop sharply at that point though. So instead, you get this.... https://secure.peta.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=irf_sustainer&set.custom.Campaign_Code=I11EWCXXXXG&autologin=true and this.... https://secure.peta.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=donatenow&set.custom.Campaign_Code=I11AWAXXXXJ&autologin=true

 

I also have a big problem with an organization so inept (if you're giving them the benefit of the doubt) that it can't find homes for more than 8 animals in 2009 while killing 2301. Excuse me for doubting, but I honestly believe Saddam Hussein could have bettered that. If they are really of the mindset that killing these animals (humanely, of course) is ethical in order to control the population then they shouldn't have a problem with hunters doing the same thing.

 

Another thing that I find quite telling is that the percentage of "adopted" pets dropped steadily from the beginning of the statistics until the end. Could it be that the organization decided that pushing a radical agenda was far more important than having to deal with actually caring for and finding homes for pets? Nah, that couldn't be the case. I'm just being a cynic.

 

tim

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On a funnier note, I had first hand experience with a PETA nut. I was taking my family to see the Ringling Brothers....Circus and this guy with a front/back A-frame placard was protesting the "unethical" treatment of the elephants on the sidewalk in front of the arena. He was being kind of an asshole stepping in front of people and pushing his PETA propaganda literature at everyone. I told the prick to step away from my family and he got mouthy and took a couple steps at me. I side stepped him and he turned quick and lost his balance, falling on his back. Because of his belted on placard he couldn't get up and was just like a turtle on his back, with his flyers strewn all around him on the sidewalk. There were a lot of laughing witness around and nobody helped the guy get up. It was a good show (the circus).

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Organizations and/or groups rarely do shit right, they become bureaucracies with varied agendas and the members loose focus of what they thought they set out to do.

 

While Yeoldtool gave one member a new understanding and a desire to save the turtles as a group they have no great effect on the welfare of animals. :super:

 

I take care of my dogs and would report someone who abused any animal including the damn poachers around where I live.

 

 

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On a funnier note, I had first hand experience with a PETA nut. I was taking my family to see the Ringling Brothers....Circus and this guy with a front/back A-frame placard was protesting the "unethical" treatment of the elephants on the sidewalk in front of the arena. He was being kind of an asshole stepping in front of people and pushing his PETA propaganda literature at everyone. I told the prick to step away from my family and he got mouthy and took a couple steps at me. I side stepped him and he turned quick and lost his balance, falling on his back. Because of his belted on placard he couldn't get up and was just like a turtle on his back, with his flyers strewn all around him on the sidewalk. There were a lot of laughing witness around and nobody helped the guy get up. It was a good show (the circus).

 

Now that is funny. I'd pay good American money to see it.

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