daughertym 15 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I love the badass look of both brakes and both makers are awesome with their products (I have Tromix and Chaos parts on my Saiga!). Any one know which one reduces felt recoil the most, and more importantly, does anyone know if either of the two brakes function some what like a choke with rounds? A recent SWAT magazine article about the Saiga-12 (Not very well written, the author has apparently never been on this site, and praised about what great durms A.A. makes) boasted that the Warthog improved his shot pattern, any truth to this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I love the badass look of both brakes and both makers are awesome with their products (I have Tromix and Chaos parts on my Saiga!). Any one know which one reduces felt recoil the most, and more importantly, does anyone know if either of the two brakes function some what like a choke with rounds? A recent SWAT magazine article about the Saiga-12 (Not very well written, the author has apparently never been on this site, and praised about what great durms A.A. makes) boasted that the Warthog improved his shot pattern, any truth to this? I am not really interested in a bad ass looking gun, I perfer functional, I'd be very interested in knowing what Swat magazine has to say about the S-12 and the AA drum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daughertym 15 Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) Topmaul Functional is always important, but good looks are a plus too. The SWAT artical came out this month, and was most disappointing to say the least. Too much to go into detail, but check it out when you get the chance. I had hoped the author would have done his homework...another words checked out this site perhaps, not too mention the A.A. rave. He mentions contacting the "other drum" manufacturers who failed to return his calls. A.A. was apparently more than happy to provide a 30rnd drum for him to shoot, but obviously not evaluate. Edited July 17, 2011 by BigD45 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yooper14.5 84 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 If I had to pick I'd pick the warthog. Its built like a tank. And DAMN can you stab stuff with it! However I know nothing about the recoil reduction of either brake. I only have experience with the monster brake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Cameron makes great stuff, but I don't see how any brake can improve your pattern. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yooper14.5 84 Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/67493-the-mitigator-muzzle-break/page__pid__652513#entry652513 Check this out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daughertym 15 Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/67493-the-mitigator-muzzle-break/page__pid__652513#entry652513 Check this out. Verrry Interesting!!! That sounds like a promising brake especially with the ability to use Remington chokes. Any pics? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daughertym 15 Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Cameron makes great stuff, but I don't see how any brake can improve your pattern. That's what I was thinking, but the SWAT arcticle showed a measured improvement with and without the Warthog brake. I'm am torn between the two brakes as I know both are made by two of the best in Saiga parts manufacturing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 They also praised the AA drum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Did they offer a theory as to how a muzzle brake was able to affect pattern? I'd like to hear about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yooper14.5 84 Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/67493-the-mitigator-muzzle-break/page__pid__652513#entry652513 Check this out. Verrry Interesting!!! That sounds like a promising brake especially with the ability to use Remington chokes. Any pics? sorry, just what is in that thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daughertym 15 Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Did they offer a theory as to how a muzzle brake was able to affect pattern? I'd like to hear about it. According to the article, he had the barrel cut down to 18" and had a gunsmith silver solder the hog to the barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
texas_dawg 0 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Any one know which one reduces felt recoil the most, Can anyone comment on his question above? I bought my saiga 12 to replace a short barreled 20 gauge I keep for home defense. I am find, shooting with it is the gained in speed I get from the auto load, is negated by the time it takes me to reacquire the target. Not a big deal shooting clays, as the most of the recoil seems to be absorbed by the piston, but put slugs or buckshot in it and its significant. Will a brake even make a dent in that? Hopefully I'll adjust to it with more practice, but a lot of those skills can fall apart in stress. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yooper14.5 84 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) Any one know which one reduces felt recoil the most, Can anyone comment on his question above? I bought my saiga 12 to replace a short barreled 20 gauge I keep for home defense. I am find, shooting with it is the gained in speed I get from the auto load, is negated by the time it takes me to reacquire the target. Not a big deal shooting clays, as the most of the recoil seems to be absorbed by the piston, but put slugs or buckshot in it and its significant. Will a brake even make a dent in that? Hopefully I'll adjust to it with more practice, but a lot of those skills can fall apart in stress. I know the monster brake works. If you want somthing that really shines in high power loads get a enidine buffer. Edited August 18, 2011 by yooper14.5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Compared to other 12 ga. shotguns the S12's recoil is mild, in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 And lower recoiling 12 gauge buck is readily available. You can use that and an effective compensator. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 These weapons recoil???? NECROTHREAD!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magineer 9 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Did they offer a theory as to how a muzzle brake was able to affect pattern? I'd like to hear about it. Voodoo magic, secret sauce, ... You know, the explanation for lots of Saiga 12 products... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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