okie shooter 0 Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Interesting idea, cutting the mags lengthwise rather than across, make the mag longer. Easier in plastic rather than steel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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BattleRifleG3 16 Posted July 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I wouldn't pay that much for a mag either. Instead I developed a conversion for cheap mags. Glad for the honest feedback. Sure is expensive, that's just what machining costs. Cheaper cost per item would require more expensive initial cost, which no one seems to be ready to do. I'm investigating this option since no one else will. With all the hard work and cost of machining, its advantage is the ability to do short product runs. You guys can go ahead trying every other way to make them. Nothing's impossible with skill and effort. Question is what's the best use of time and effort? This is the sort of thing experts discuss and don't agree on. Good luck to everyone in their endeavors! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
St Michael 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Question is what's the best use of time and effort? This is the sort of thing experts discuss and don't agree on. Good luck to everyone in their endeavors! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you come out with a functional reliable high cap mag for the Saiga 308, it will sell, period. Even if a 20 rounder costs $80 and a 30 rounder costs $100. Many of us don't have the time or equipment to do conversions of any kind. Frankly, I like the stock configuration. The only other thing I want for this gun is a high cap mag or two. I payed $260 for the gun, new, out the door. If I spend another $200 for functional reliable high cap mags, I'm still ahead of the game compared to any other option available in a semi-auto 308. If you build it they will come. Bank on it. If not here, then on gunbroker or other gun auctions, where Saiga Forum members can covertly buy them without having to admit here they spent "that much money just for high-caps." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jtoddellis 2 Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I have a .308 but would not spend that much money on a High-cap, but considering the price people are paying for 8 round 12 gauge mags I'm sure a lot of people would if the quality is good enough. I ordered a factory 30 round from Rusmilitary back when I first got my 7.62x39 and ended up doing the high-cap conversion because I thought they were too high. I guess I'm just cheap, but after all thats what got me into Saigas. Semi-automatic .308 for less than $300 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arothechild 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted July 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) Nice used AR-10 for $460???? WHAT THE FRIGGING HECK??? How many used AR-10s have you seen under a grand? Ok, moment of insanity over. Your other comments made some sense. Note that the Saiga 308s are assembled at MUCH higher quality than the CETMEs and with skilled shooters almost alwsys get better than 2MOA. They will hold up to all sorts of crap while the CETMEs at times crap themselves (granted there are a few good ones.) Want a CETME, buy a CETME. But hi-cap or low-cap, folks have every reason to want a Saiga-308 over a CETME, Century FAL, Century G3, or others at a comparable price. If you have the skills to improve them if their function isn't good, that may be a factor in their favor. If you want comparable quality AND hi-cap mags, you have to pay significantly more. The ONLY 308 semi that I can think of that I believe has the same quality/cost ratio is the $700 JLD PTR clone of the G3. Professional FAL builds I could also see forth that type of price. My humble opinion is that if you want to better the Saiga-308, that's how high you have to go if you want your money to count. Edited July 21, 2005 by BattleRifleG3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okie shooter 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hay don't knock the CETME's and FAL's from century too much, we do get what we pay for with them, as long as you go into buying them knowing that they are really parts kits with new receivers. Some have problems and others dont, but I own both a CETME and L1A1/FAL from CIA, they both worked well out of the box, I will have to do more work to get them into tip top shape, but for the bang for the buck they were as cheep or cheeper than I paid for the SAIGA in 308. I can buy CETME/G3 for less than five bucks new in wrap, and FAL mags for less than ten. Thats one reason I have both. If I had not wanted to get a variant of an AK in .308 to shoot along side of them I would have stoped with my 7.62x39 SAIGA. We all shoot, its different strokes for different folks. Also every one has what they like , m-1 shooter swear by their guns, as fal, cetme, g3 ect. Best thing to do really is buy them all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Oakie.- Great idea! One each of everything! G O B (P.S. Does anyone know where I can find some cubic bucks, the only reason I don't have one of everytinng YET, is the lack of cubic bucks!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted July 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Didn't mean to diss the CETMEs, and I have a Century G3 myself. But the Saiga whoops them in many ways and if it had hi-caps that would make it closer to "every way." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 P.S. Does anyone know where I can find some cubic bucks, the only reason I don't have one of everytinng YET, is the lack of cubic bucks! Ok... I'll bite... what is a CUBIC BUCK??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smiley_Guy 2 Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 "what is a CUBIC BUCK???" lay a few dollars out in a square. stack on more till you make a cube. it's more fun than it sounds... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okie shooter 0 Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Yes understand the restrictions the cash flow can put on gun buying, been there and done that, wish when I was younger I hadn't figgured out what a good deal guns were then. Now Its convinceing my singinfant other that I am buying guns, so when I get a gun or go to a gunshow, useally theres a trip to the jewlery counter or home store to get stuff for her too. I have been in the collecting mode for a while now though, just buy them when I find them at a good price and keep doing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MetalSnakeSIG 0 Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 I'd pay $100 for a belt feed option....other than that it's just too much cash down the drain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted July 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 If there's a beltfed option ever offered, it won't be by me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Personally... I would like to know *HOW* a beltfeed system actually WORKS... I mean... how does it pull the belt thru, and strip the round out of the links? is it like a little drive gear in there? or??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmbswu 0 Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 In a beltfeed system, the movement of the bolt carrier drives a lever mechanism to pull the belts in. The bolt strips a round from the belt, and the link then falls out of the weapon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
klangblades 0 Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 BRG-3 What is the feasibility of cutting 2 AK mags and welding them into an S-.308? I will have to look at that when I get home. ( even if the foward one needs mods, it would be easier fabbing from scratch) G O B <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The 7.62x39 has a much stronger taper to the case, which is why ak mags are curved, and all the .308 battle rifle mags are straight. So if you cut two, welded them came up with a correct size follower and spring, they still wouldn't feed right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 I noticed that when I looked at the mags side by side, but the front of the AK mag will fit my reciever so maybe it might be a donor for the top front part of a "frankenmag', with the proper feedramp welded in. G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted July 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Got my S-308 mag today and will start the R&D process shortly. I'll let you guys know if I can come up with a potentially successful design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HPJeep 0 Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 I was going to offer my extra mag but looks like you just got it in the mail. Keep us posted on the machining. At this rate of waiting and waiting for hi caps I am willing to pay $80 but not more. I'd probably buy two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramon24s 0 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 did nething ever come of this. just wondering Quote Link to post Share on other sites
St Michael 0 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Got my S-308 mag today and will start the R&D process shortly. I'll let you guys know if I can come up with a potentially successful design. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, any progress? (I just sent you a PM too...if this S308 mag is still a possibility, ignore my PM) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Still R&Ding it, have a bit of catching up to do on standing requests for a couple mag adaptors. Glad to see that people are still interested, that certainly does help keep things going. Hope you all can be patient. The solutions I'm trying to offer here are the kind that take a lot of work to make something that a few people want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramon24s 0 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 i just got my saiga so i dont have the cash yet but i am wanting one. so ya got some time i aint in no hurry. just let us know so i can stop spending money on my truck and get some more money to spend on my toys. thanks for the update Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead7544 35 Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 Thanks for the idea on the frankenmag. Was too obvious. Im going to try it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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