facepull 3 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 mexicos leader says we are to blame as well for the casino massacare that just happened. I thnik its time that the world declares war and ends this now once and for all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 mexicos leader says we are to blame as well for the casino massacare that just happened. I thnik its time that the world declares war and ends this now once and for all. Mexico leadership is getting it's talking points from Eric Holder and the Thug in Chief Yakdung 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga_rom 91 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 maybe im missing something here... how is it the United States fault that criminals in mexico committed crimes in mexico? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fallschirmjager667 729 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 the opinions of the leader of a 3rd world shit hole mean absolutely nothing 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga_rom 91 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 i hadnt heard anything about this, but i looked it up, and apparently some drug cartel in mexico was trying to strong arm a casino, demanding $10,000 a week, but the casino refused to pay, so the cartel members drove up and set fire to the place, killing alot of people. quoted from the article "He (mexican president ) said Congress needs to take steps to curb an "insatiable" demand for drugs and crack down on the illegal trafficking of weapons across the border into Mexico." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 maybe im missing something here... how is it the United States fault that criminals in mexico committed crimes in mexico? The pretzel logic comes from Mexico's President Felipe Calderon. He has a masters from liberal cesspool of Harvard. From MSLSD: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44282514/ Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga_rom 91 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 maybe im missing something here... how is it the United States fault that criminals in mexico committed crimes in mexico? The pretzel logic comes from Mexico's President Felipe Calderon. He has a masters from liberal cesspool of Harvard. From MSLSD: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44282514/ Yakdung he went to harvard?? maybe he should have spent more time studying math and physics. it could have helped with his critical thinking skills Quote Link to post Share on other sites
antinwo 57 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) mexicos leader says we are to blame as well for the casino massacare that just happened. I thnik its time that the world declares war and ends this now once and for all. Mexico leadership is getting it's talking points from Eric Holder and the Thug in Chief Yakdung +1 They probably didn't make their protection payment last week. I wonder how many, if any, of the guns involved came through "Operation Fast and Furious"? Edited August 26, 2011 by antinwo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 mexicos leader says we are to blame as well for the casino massacare that just happened. So what, it's his fault for the high prices in the US Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) "He (mexican president ) said Congress needs to take steps to curb an "insatiable" demand for drugs and crack down on the illegal trafficking of weapons across the border into Mexico." Congress does have the power to impeach. Edited August 26, 2011 by DrThunder88 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 maybe im missing something here... how is it the United States fault that criminals in mexico committed crimes in mexico? The pretzel logic comes from Mexico's President Felipe Calderon. He has a masters from liberal cesspool of Harvard. From MSLSD: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44282514/ Yakdung he went to harvard?? maybe he should have spent more time studying math and physics. it could have helped with his critical thinking skills Pretty amazing isn't it. From WiKi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felipe_Calder%C3%B3n "Master of Public Administration in 2000 from the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University." Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 mexicos leader says we are to blame as well for the casino massacare that just happened. I thnik its time that the world declares war and ends this now once and for all. Mexico leadership is getting it's talking points from Eric Holder and the Thug in Chief Yakdung +1 They probably didn't make their protection payment last week. I wonder how many, if any, of the guns involved came through "Operation Fast and Furious"? Smart man. Good point. Yakdung 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BpS12 512 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 We can stop the problems real easily. SHUT DOWN the border. NO ONE crosses without being searched for contriband. And ANYONE crossing illegally, is SHOT. It's really just that easy. Oh ya, and ANYONE found with contriband, is shot. No longer worth the effort. Or we could just anex Mexico and send in OUR Military, with a "take over" plan. NO MORE "nation building". "You keep what you kill." 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 the opinions of the leader of a 3rd world shit hole mean absolutely nothing Hit wrong button meant to hit + about 100 times! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga_rom 91 Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 "He (mexican president ) said Congress needs to take steps to curb an "insatiable" demand for drugs and crack down on the illegal trafficking of weapons across the border into Mexico." Congress does have the power to impeach. well, i dont know enough about this guys leadership skills to say whether i think he deserves to be impeached or not. but i think its a little questionable for him to be pointing the finger like that, especially for something that really has nothing to do with the US in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 We can stop the problems real easily. SHUT DOWN the border. NO ONE crosses without being searched for contriband. And ANYONE crossing illegally, is SHOT. It's really just that easy. Oh ya, and ANYONE found with contriband, is shot. No longer worth the effort. Or we could just anex Mexico and send in OUR Military, with a "take over" plan. NO MORE "nation building". "You keep what you kill." Shutting down the border is just one big fucking game as far as politicians are concerned. Baby Bush ignored the Texas border when he was Governor. Rick Perry talks a good line of bullshit, be he hasn't done anything. Now the goof is running for President. Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heath_h49008 442 Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 (edited) Simple solution. Legalize the drugs, when Pfizer and Walmart take over the industry, people stop shooting each other, the politicians lose their "I will end illegal drugs" stump speeches, local bureaucrats lose the piles of cash they get to ineffectively fight the "War on Drugs" (and the bribes they get from the crooks, or the cash from seizures/protection rackets), and the gangsters lose their source of power and money, the exact same number of people who want to get high will still get high.(There doesn't seem to ba any shortage for those so inclined right now) Wow... it sounds like the only ones with something to lose are the gangs and the governments. Edited August 27, 2011 by Heath_h49008 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theturtlepond 31 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 We can stop the problems real easily. SHUT DOWN the border. NO ONE crosses without being searched for contriband. And ANYONE crossing illegally, is SHOT. It's really just that easy. Oh ya, and ANYONE found with contriband, is shot. No longer worth the effort. Or we could just anex Mexico and send in OUR Military, with a "take over" plan. NO MORE "nation building". "You keep what you kill." I heavily agree. +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 There are no drugs in America, they are illegal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Simple solution. Legalize the drugs, when Pfizer and Walmart take over the industry, people stop shooting each other, the politicians lose their "I will end illegal drugs" stump speeches, local bureaucrats lose the piles of cash they get to ineffectively fight the "War on Drugs" (and the bribes they get from the crooks, or the cash from seizures/protection rackets), and the gangsters lose their source of power and money, the exact same number of people who want to get high will still get high.(There doesn't seem to ba any shortage for those so inclined right now) Wow... it sounds like the only ones with something to lose are the gangs and the governments. I would agree to your point but I have one flaw with it. More fucking stoned idiots behind the wheel all over the freeways drifting from lane to lane. Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 "He (mexican president ) said Congress needs to take steps to curb an "insatiable" demand for drugs and crack down on the illegal trafficking of weapons across the border into Mexico." Duh......War on Drugs ring a bell? It's been ongoing since Reagan, and we are still on the losing end of the stick. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga_rom 91 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 "He (mexican president ) said Congress needs to take steps to curb an "insatiable" demand for drugs and crack down on the illegal trafficking of weapons across the border into Mexico." Duh......War on Drugs ring a bell? It's been ongoing since Reagan, and we are still on the losing end of the stick. i think the guy is just trying to make excuses and alleviate the blame. its not their fault, its our fault..... cause of course that makes so much sense eh? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 maybe im missing something here... how is it the United States fault that criminals in mexico committed crimes in mexico? Because the criminals in charge of the US and Mexico say so... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga_rom 91 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 maybe im missing something here... how is it the United States fault that criminals in mexico committed crimes in mexico? Because the criminals in charge of the US and Mexico say so... hmm, seems rather subjective. i think the blame lies on the individuals who carried out the act. but it seems like regardless of the situation, people are always trying to blame a scapegoat rather than face reality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LeoPTY 24 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Simple solution. Legalize the drugs, when Pfizer and Walmart take over the industry, people stop shooting each other, the politicians lose their "I will end illegal drugs" stump speeches, local bureaucrats lose the piles of cash they get to ineffectively fight the "War on Drugs" (and the bribes they get from the crooks, or the cash from seizures/protection rackets), and the gangsters lose their source of power and money, the exact same number of people who want to get high will still get high.(There doesn't seem to ba any shortage for those so inclined right now) Wow... it sounds like the only ones with something to lose are the gangs and the governments. I'm torn on this issue. One of the other message boards that I frequent is discussing the ramifications of legalizing drugs. Someone brought up the point that the cartels are entrenched at every level of Mexican society, and instead of simply disappearing, they may focus more on kidnapping, extortion, assassination, etc. to make up for the loss of drug revenue. It's certainly food for thought, but on the flip side, the end of prohibition had mixed results. Some organized criminals moved on to other illicit activity, while other became politicians. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Heath_h49008 442 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Simple solution. Legalize the drugs, when Pfizer and Walmart take over the industry, people stop shooting each other, the politicians lose their "I will end illegal drugs" stump speeches, local bureaucrats lose the piles of cash they get to ineffectively fight the "War on Drugs" (and the bribes they get from the crooks, or the cash from seizures/protection rackets), and the gangsters lose their source of power and money, the exact same number of people who want to get high will still get high.(There doesn't seem to ba any shortage for those so inclined right now) Wow... it sounds like the only ones with something to lose are the gangs and the governments. I'm torn on this issue. One of the other message boards that I frequent is discussing the ramifications of legalizing drugs. Someone brought up the point that the cartels are entrenched at every level of Mexican society, and instead of simply disappearing, they may focus more on kidnapping, extortion, assassination, etc. to make up for the loss of drug revenue. It's certainly food for thought, but on the flip side, the end of prohibition had mixed results. Some organized criminals moved on to other illicit activity, while other became politicians. I think the end of alcohol prohibition is a great example for just that reason... When they can't make money killing people over drugs, they stop the bloodbaths and move to politics. If the Indians open the casinos, the illegal gambling houses die out. In every case, we save money by firing the cops we don't need, and enjoy the taxes we collect. If you think legalization will increase the number of people driving high, you must believe those who want to get high are being stopped by the prohibition... but we know that's not the case. I don't care if it's weed, coke, smack, crystal, oxy, vicodins, paint huffing, gasoline sniffing, or acid and magic mushrooms.... if you want to get high, it is readily available RIGHT NOW. There is no shortage. So once we admit all we are doing is making gangsters rich, and encouraging the bloodbath, why would we continue? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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