IndyArms 10,186 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 I placed an order from LEE Precision late last week... was told it would arrive early this week. I went to the post office today ( I did not go yesterday ) and the parcel was there... except it was stamped " Arrived UNSEALED at P.O."... meaning it was all torn open at one end and they were not sure if everything was in there or not... Well, it WASNT... The most expensive item... a $20.00 case trimmer ( for 50 BMG) was missing. GO FIGURE!!! so... I talked to the Postmaster of my Post Office, and she said to contact the shipper first, and if that didnt get anywhere they would put out a notice to see if anything was "found" which she said would probably be pointless. I called LEE precision, and gave them my purchase invoice number, they pulled up the file. I explained the issue and without a moments hesitation I was told a new one would be sent out TODAY! no charge, no fuss, no muss, no hassles, no hoops!!!!! AMEN to that kind of customer service!!!!!! and that reason is WHY when ANYONE EVER asks me what brand of reloading equipment I use... I tell them "LEE Precision" EVERY TIME!!!!!!! GO LEE!!!!! you all at Lee Precision are the BEST!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThirtyAughtSix 101 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Their customer service is top notch, I admitted to breaking a part myself due to missuse and they sent a replacement free of charge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 The Post Office clowns are notorious thieves. I would still file a complaint with the Postmaster. Glad you got your parts. Yakdung 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tokinshitload 12 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 As of now I have two lee presses. A four station turret press and a Load-All 2. Once set up they have produced thousands of rounds each without much fuss. Had to spray DGF on some of the surfaces to smooth out the action, but they work every time. The 600jr. doesn't come out much, and I have no need to spent the money on a RCBS. For the money Lee is a great buy! Glad to hear their service is top notch. This isn't the first I have heard about the great customer service people receive from them, but it amazes me they continue to do a good job at keeping customers happy in this day and age of "its your fault "service from company's across the USA. Whatever hapened to " the customer is always right"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigtwin 219 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 +100,000 All I have are Lee reloading products(almost, I have an RCBS trickler) Lee should pay attention to that(make one damnit)! I really love Lee products and they have always been very helpfull with my questions and service! I am with you Indyarms on the recomendation for sure! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 One thing you can say for Lee, is that even the products of theirs that look and feel like pure crap still work. I bought a Load-All 2 for 12 gauge, just to get my feet wet in shot shell reloading. Opened the box, and thought, "wow, what a hunk of crap" and chalked it up to what could I expect for 40 bucks.... Got it set up, and found out that the damn thing just works. Feels like it should break every time I cycle the handle, but close to a year and many hundreds of rounds later, it's still working just fine; I have had ZERO problems with it. And I make a point of buying their factory crimp dies for all of my rifle die sets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I broke the platic cover on the NEW model handi-prime tool... I called, and said that it busted, they are sending me TWO!!! Because the FIRST runs had BAD PLASTIC!!! go figure!!! Also... I tried to get a replacement handle for my OLD handi-primer tool... they said they stopped providing parts for them... so I had to buy the new one... well, guess what... the NEW handle fits the old... so I asked for another NEW handle and thats coming too!! YAY LEE PRECISION!!! They are THE BEST! :up: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtjccmotel 12 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Lee Precision is a top rate company at reasonable prices. I have used their presses and dies for almost 10 years now. I prefer their dies over RCBS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I agree I wont use anything else if I have a choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jr612 0 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 So why do Lee products have such a bad rep? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 So why do Lee products have such a bad rep? I didnt know they did... Perhaps its by the snooty people with more money than brains that figure cheap MUST equal GARBAGE.... when in reality.... LEE precision just offers quality at a REASONABLE PRICE... They want to make a PROFIT... not a KILLING off their customers... and that kind of business ethic... along with their customer service and warranty policy is the reason those who KNOW will NEVER go anywhere else... Why would you spend 50 bucks on something that you can get for 25 with a LIFETIME warranty that will perform JUST AS GOOD ( if not better - because of design differences making things easier to adjust... ) as something twice the price?!?!?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Post office is trying to shift the blame. I would be willing to bet that someone at the Post Office stole it. I would file a complaint with the local Postmaster in charge. Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 The only difference I have noticed on some LEE products is that the painted finish may not be as nice as some of the others, and they sometimes use plastic in places other don't. I did just get the Dillon Super Swager and it's top notch, but I paid a premium for since no one offers anything similar in the way it operates. I use LEE primarly and have no complaints given it's value for what you get compared to other companies offerings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 The only bad rep Lee gets is from other manufacturers that are slowly losing business to Lee. Lee has an excellent rep with reloaders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I use Lee dies and trimmer for my 50 BMG, and a Lee 12ga press for black powder loads (with a separate powder measure so I don't go BOOOM!) They work great. Tip: For cleaning 50BMG casings in bulk, get a cement mixer, then get ground corncob from the pet store for cheap. Add some case polish to the mix and let it run until shiny. I use a 16" pizza pan as a lid for the mixer, fastened down with three catches screwed to the drum to keep the dust down. Works like a charm, plus, I can tumble CASES of pistol ammo in one load! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1mile50 102 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I have Lee Dies for 500 S&W, .50 Beowulf, & 300 BLK. Also a .45 ACP Carbide Factory Crimp, a must for reliable loads in my Kimber Match. I have always been very satisfied with these dies and the rounds they load. Hands down, Lee is the best value in carbide dies, new calibers, and not so common, hard to get dies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tokinshitload 12 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Man I wish all companies treated there customers as good as Lee Precision! I have been a little rough with my reloading gear is seems, broke a decap pin on a lee loader in 3006, a sprue cam on a 6 cavity mold broke before I acquired a hot plate by loading it with too cool of lead before cutting the sprue, and wore out an index cam on a turret press. All things broken or wore out were not related to the quality of the product, but from heavy use or misfortunate mistakes on my part. I call lee factory service with credit card in hand expecting to pay for replacement parts. Let me tell you I got the nicest customer service rep on the phone who explained how to prevent some of the damage I caused, and promptly sent out replacement parts at no cost to me. NO ONE BUT LEE DOES THIS ANYMORE! Wow! I will continue to purchase Lee, and recommend them to anyone who wants to get into reloading. BTW, I started collecting those lee hand loaders in all calibers. They even used to make them for shotgun. Some of my most accurate loads come from those kits. Well worth the 25$ or so that they cost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnNicholasM 7 Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Everyone seems to agree; Lee stuff looks kinda cheap, feels kinda cheap, but works just fine all the time. Their dies are great. The "factory crimp die", which is really a full length sizing die and taper crimper combined is real nifty for pistol ammo. Improves accuracy and reliability. J. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Lee stuff looks kinda cheap, feels kinda cheap, but works just fine all the time Not sure what parts you refer to that look cheap or feel cheap... My press is about as SOLID and rugged as they come... and the dies are not any different than anyone elses, other than ergonomic differences... Maybe the shotgun loading press?? I have never actually seen/handled/used one... so I cant speak for that... But when it comes to rifle/pistol loading items... They seem to be as good as anyone elses... And sure the powder dropper/measure is plastic... but it works very well, and is VERY consistent and accurate in its dispensing... and thats what really counts, isnt it?!?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 90% of the reloading items i own are made by lee. thats gotta say something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tokinshitload 12 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Lee stuff looks kinda cheap, feels kinda cheap, but works just fine all the time Not sure what parts you refer to that look cheap or feel cheap... My press is about as SOLID and rugged as they come... and the dies are not any different than anyone elses, other than ergonomic differences... Maybe the shotgun loading press?? I have never actually seen/handled/used one... so I cant speak for that... But when it comes to rifle/pistol loading items... They seem to be as good as anyone elses... And sure the powder dropper/measure is plastic... but it works very well, and is VERY consistent and accurate in its dispensing... and thats what really counts, isnt it?!?! The shotgun press does feel like it woud fall apart, but the damn thing works! I have loaded 40 or more boxes of 12 g with it, and it still works as good as the day I unboxed it. There are some tricks to that one to unload the powder and shot. Just unclip the arms from the side, and the whole thing comes up off the base, cover one side at a time to empty ou the powder and shot, put it back on the base, and snap the arm back on. It is not as easy to unload as a mec, but it cost alot less! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnNicholasM 7 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 "looks cheap", not "is cheap". The cast aluminum pieces seem kinda light weight compared to the cast iron monsters that some other companies make. But the aluminum is certainly strong enough to get the job done. (I think it has been only in the last several years that Lee has been making a cast iron press.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Lee used innovation, computer numerically controlled (CNC), to produce equipment cheaper, faster, and to tighter specs eliminating overbuild. Those companies that refused to follow suit, at first, accused Lee of making inferior quality. What Lee has done has been a boon to reloading and I am damned glad they are around. If more American companies were as innovative as Lee our lives in America today would be a lot better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sitkashooter 1 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 never had any issues with lee products. i use their 50 bmg press and it works great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I hate LEE so much I'm getting ready to buy a LEE PRO1000 .223 press so I have one dedicated just for that caliber. Just typing this got me excited and I may just go buy it now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tokinshitload 12 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I hate LEE so much I'm getting ready to buy a LEE PRO1000 .223 press so I have one dedicated just for that caliber. Just typing this got me excited and I may just go buy it now. From what I have read people like the pro1000 once it is dialed in. The load master has a design flaw with the priming system that doesnt seem to carry into the pro1000 press. I may pick one of these up myself. Let us know how it works for you. It seems 223 is getting scarce on the ammo shelves these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 I already have a lee pro 1000 for my 9mm. Runs like a champ as long as I pay attention to what I'm doing. Most of the time I have problem it's me and not the press. I can say the pro 1000 feeds primers best when the tray is kept full. As soon as the last primers leave the tray I add more. Since the system is gravity fed it helps to keep some weight from primers in the tray pushing primers through the feed tube. I have loaded sveral thousand rounds with it. The first run was the run that I had the most issues dialing it in. AS with all reloading a bullet puller is a must to recycle the mistakes. After doing a little research I found that some people have had issues with running Varget powder throught the pro1000. I'm going to do some more looking. I may have to switch to spherical poweder for the pro1000 to meter the powder properly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 I already have a lee pro 1000 for my 9mm. Runs like a champ as long as I pay attention to what I'm doing. Most of the time I have problem it's me and not the press. I can say the pro 1000 feeds primers best when the tray is kept full. As soon as the last primers leave the tray I add more. Since the system is gravity fed it helps to keep some weight from primers in the tray pushing primers through the feed tube. I have loaded sveral thousand rounds with it. The first run was the run that I had the most issues dialing it in. AS with all reloading a bullet puller is a must to recycle the mistakes. After doing a little research I found that some people have had issues with running Varget powder throught the pro1000. I'm going to do some more looking. I may have to switch to spherical poweder for the pro1000 to meter the powder properly. If you like the way VARGET shoots out of the loads you make, you may want to check out 8208XBR from IMR. It shoots very close to Varget as far as loading specs go... it is completely insensitive to temperature variance on your loads ( loads shot at 10 degrees will perform the same as lods shot at 90 degrees ) And the size of the powder is about a THIRD the size of varget granules. I use 8208 a LOT in a lot of different calibers, and it seems to give me excellent groups. It also tends to perform better when you start getting closer to max loads... It's good stuff... might be worth a try... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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