DeepSEAiga 0 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I recently bought and installed a Tac 47 industries Saiga 12 auto plug. I made sure to try and set it exactly as the directions said to and I even watched the install video they have on the sight but I can't get my gun to cycle low brass any more. It was firing the low brass (remington sport load value pack from wal mart) fine before I installed the pulg. I just bought a twister puck hoping this might solve my problem. Does anyone have any experience with this product? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
geepelton 105 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Did you install the twister puck and the autoplug at the same time. If so throw the twister puck away and install the factory puck. Keep tuning the screw down untill it works properly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeepSEAiga 0 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I haven't even received the twister puck yet. I just ordered it tonight. I adjusted it with the factory puck installed. Should I have not bought the twister puck? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrBoomstick 16 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 The twister puck has a tendency to cause guns to cycle improperly, and It can also gunk up you gas block. I would bet you probably need to have some port work done as well as other tuning options like polishing the bolt carrier. The Remington ammo is fairly strong. I would recommend one of the MD arms pucks either the booster or the stainless steel one. I have found that my iz 107 didn't like the twister puck, but with the auto plug some guns need a light puck or something like the CSS puck with the nipple on the back to keep it in contact with the op rod a bit longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenman223 460 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) The twister puck is garbage, they cause cycling issues and have been known to mushroom and get STUCK in the gasblock. I dont know why there still sold. Cancel your order if its not too late. I'll give you my RUSTED twister puck if you want one Edited October 16, 2011 by big-J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 If the gun ran fine before, then return to what worked and stick with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeepSEAiga 0 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Yes, it did work fine before but I would like to get the auto plug operating properly so I can cycle different types of ammo without having to adjust the gas plug every time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 The Twister Puck isn't a fix. It's bad medicine. Sounds to me like you may have wasted $45 on unnecessary parts already. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurlus 1 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I'm having the same problem. My Saiga 12 (3 port) cycled Federal Value 7 1/2 on Factory Gas Plug Setting 1 and 2. I upgraded to the CSS plug and adjuster and everything was still fine. I installed the Auto plug this morning and ended up adjusting it all the way to the stops, when I fire the gun the bolt doesn't even move. Any ideas before I send this $50 POS back? Thanks fellas! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 It shouldnt be cycling that soft of a shot on setting 1, with the factory plug. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenman223 460 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Have you guys tried contacting Tac-47 ?? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glennhmd 23 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Have you guys tried contacting Tac-47 ?? +1 on this. assuming you have done exactly what the instruction says on the auto plug installation, then there may be problem with the plug itself. contact tac-47 first and hope you can sort it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
20nickels 21 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 FWIW the Autoplug adjustment part does unscrew under recoil. Found that out the hard way this weekend. I'm going to find it's sweet spot again and reset with Loctite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kyvtx1300 5 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 I was thinking about reshaping the bottom of the Autoplug a little so it will match up with the gas ports better. It just looks like the gas is not going to project toward the puck as well as it would with the factory plug. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaniel 7 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 I know this may seem like a dumb question, but are you absolutely sure you're adjusting it the right way? If the bolt doesn't even move it sounds like you could have reversed the direction you turned it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shadoh 16 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Yeah, the bolt not moving at all means your getting no gas? I dont think I can believe that. Even with the screw, spring and vavle removed from my plug the bolt still moves a bit. Ive said it before, the Auto Plug is the best upgrade Ive added to my gun but it WILL NOT work in an under gassed or an "on the edge" of being under gassed gun. If anything, with the Auto Plug I would start with a slightly over gassed gun and then back off the gas with the Auto Plug. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I have 2 Autoplugs and my S12s run as great as they did with the other plugs that I have used. Nothing wrong with them and I wish that I had a couple more. TAC47 hit a home run with that one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2010350ss 0 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I bought one last fall and had the same problems. Adjusted it from stop to stop trying several times in between and had everything from the bolt barely moving to FTE. It was almost like it cycled 3/4 of the way and that was it. Which I assumed still not getting enough gas.... The one thing I haven't done yet is to take my gas block off and see how it's lining up completly but from what I can see with a paperclip and flash light all three holes are within the area for proper gassing... Another thing I noticed was I was having more problems while using the 20 round drum. One thing I thought was that maybe the added pressure from a full drum and spring was causing some stress or drag across the bolt adding to the problem. Didn't have as many issues with the factory mag. Still, the best I got was only two or three round bursts before another FTE. Installed the factory plug again but I still don't seem to have flawless firing... Just kinda threw it in the corner and forgot about it. Suppose I should follow up with Tac-47 and see what they have to say... Just didn't make much sense to me and figured I had wasted a little bit of money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clifton 354 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I'm having the same problem. My Saiga 12 (3 port) cycled Federal Value 7 1/2 on Factory Gas Plug Setting 1 and 2. I upgraded to the CSS plug and adjuster and everything was still fine. I installed the Auto plug this morning and ended up adjusting it all the way to the stops, when I fire the gun the bolt doesn't even move. Any ideas before I send this $50 POS back? Thanks fellas! Your ports are not at ten and two .... Your plug needs to be in the detent... your guns bolt is not moving because you have all the gas blocked off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurlus 1 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I'm having the same problem. My Saiga 12 (3 port) cycled Federal Value 7 1/2 on Factory Gas Plug Setting 1 and 2. I upgraded to the CSS plug and adjuster and everything was still fine. I installed the Auto plug this morning and ended up adjusting it all the way to the stops, when I fire the gun the bolt doesn't even move. Any ideas before I send this $50 POS back? Thanks fellas! Your ports are not at ten and two .... Your plug needs to be in the detent... your guns bolt is not moving because you have all the gas blocked off. When I took it off I noticed the notch for the detent, I screwed it too far down and yes to those who commented, my gun cycles crap ammo with the Factory Plug on Setting 1 and 2. It's highly overgased. I have to wait until the weekend to try the plug again. Thanks for the help! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clifton 354 Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Looking forward for an update.. have a good shoot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeepSEAiga 0 Posted October 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I contacted tac-47 and all they said was to start with it 50% out and adjust it from there to see if that works. I'm going to try it this weekend and also see if what I'm hearing about the twister puck is true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JimCr 0 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I have a Tac 47 auto plug and I use the stock puck. Rangerguy is right, and so is the guy in the Tac 47 video. Use the stock puck and continue to make 1/2 turns clockwise until the FTE's stop! That's why I did, and my S-12 cycles just fine! Of course make sure after every firing session you clean your puck well and the holes in the gas block. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kfinley2942003 5 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 I love my auto plug! 3 turns and I was dialed in! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurlus 1 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 (edited) Looking forward for an update.. have a good shoot. Just installed, adjusted and burned about 50 rounds thru it. Ran everything from the Federal 7 1/2 load to Remington Slugger 2 3/4 Rifled Slugs perfectly. It also greatly reduced the recoil of my overgased monster to a decent level. 50 rounds and my shoulder isn't bruised, I couldn't run 10 rounds before and say that. Think I'm in love, thanks for the help and the awesome product! Edited October 23, 2011 by Kurlus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clifton 354 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Kurlus Thanks for the Great Review. Glad you liked the product. Please Check out the Magwell when you have a chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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