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My Vepr-12 VPO-205-00 modification Part I

 

 

 

 

 

Several years ago Vepr-12 Molot (VPO205) made by VYATSKIEPOLYANY MACHINE BULDING PLANT (Molot) was bought due to better quality then IZHMASH production. IMHO Vepr-12 VPO-205-00 is better then Saiga-12K-030 that I was wanted to buy.

 

The "Vepr-12 Molot" shotgun is made on the basis of the Kalashnikov light machine-gun (RPK), produced for the shells of 12/76 gauge and Saiga-12-030 made on the basis of the Kalashnikov AKM. "Vepr-12 Molot" (VPO-205, 430 mm barrel) is a multi-purpose semi-auto shotgun, from other versions of Vepr-12 it differs with an available detachable flame arrester installed on the barrel muzzle part and with a mechanism blocking the trigger and eliminating from the possibility of shooting, when the stock is folded up.

 

First I bought and installed Polygon Muzzle brake and Burris FastFireII with Picatinny Protector to my Vepr-12. The muzzle brake was improve a little bit like it was made on Vsevolod Ilyns Polygon Muzzle brake.

 

Pic of Standart Vepr-12 VPO-205-00 with Polygon Muzzle Brake

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Pic of Modifided Polygon Muzzle Brake

 

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Secondly I decided to remove Original (Molot) stock and bough & installed Folding Stock Adapter (compatible with MilspecAR15 stock) made by Molot . Then was installed DPMS 6-Position Carbine Buffer Tube, Magpul CTR Carbine Stock & Magpul Enhanced Rubber Buttpad. Bolt details, as well as, Trigger Group and Bolt Rails ware polished.

 

 

Pic of polished Vepr-12 Bolt Rails

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Then Original Trigger Group was replaced by RSA Adjustable AK Trigger System for Saiga 12/20 Gauge from Power Custom. After trigger adjustments were made, Safety was Adjusted For Proper Safety Engagement by Removing metal from the Safety.

 

Pic of Adjusted Molot Safety

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Pics of polished Molot & RSA Trigger Group

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Also Original (Molot) pistol grip was replaced by Hogue AK-47 / AK-74 Rubber Grip with Finger Grooves & Original (Vepr-12 Molot) Lower Hand-guard Rail System was replaced by Molot RPK Hand-guard without Picatinny M1913. Then Original (Molot) magazine release was replaced by RAM Saiga 12 Extended magazine release.

 

 

E-Tac TwisterPuc (Standard) Gas Piston was modified to fit Vepr-12.

 

Pics of Molot & Twister Puc

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My Vepr-12 VPO-205-00 modification Part II

 

 

 

 

Later I decided to paint my Vepr-12 by Duracoat. Original paint was removed (by 98% Alcohol & brass brush). The polished rails before painting was covered by Tamya masking tape. Shotgun was painted by Duracoat Flat Black for the base color first.

 

Pic of drying Black color paint

 

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After drying the shotguns Internals ware painted two colors: Flat Black + Ultra Flat Tactical Extreme Gray and was covered by masking tape.

 

Pics of painted Bolt details

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Pics of painted Molot & RSA Trigger Group

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Pic of painted Molot & RAM magazine release

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Pic of Painted Adjusted Molot Safety

 

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Then Shotgun was painted by Duracoat Ultra Flat Tactical Extreme Gray and some parts was painted by Duracoat Ultra Flat Tactical Black , 8-round magazine was painted EOTch FlatDark Earth, 4-round magazine was painted UltraFlat Tactical Black.

 

Pic of drying Grey tactical color paint

 

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I changed my Polygon Muzzle brake to Guns Tuning Laboratories Muzzle Brake PSH-2 and painted it by Duracoat Ultra Flat Tactical Black .

 

Pic of painted Vepr-12 Muzzle attachments (Molot Flash hider & PSH-2 Muzzle brake)

 

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Pics of painted Vepr-12 details

 

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After drying for 4 weeks the Vepr-12 was assembled. The tactical colors was look super!

 

Pisc of the fresh painted Vepr-12.

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Later I found that tactical colors look very super, but not practical due to ultra flat tactical surface could be easily scratch by finger nail and be stained by oiled fingers. Accordantly to foregoing bug, I decided to lubricate all the tactical colors surfaces by Break-Free CLP oil to make the surface oil stainless.

 

In addition I changed my Guns Tuning Laboratories Muzzle Brake PSH-2 to Muzzle Brake GK-01 designed by IPSC shooter Mr.Vselolod Ilyn and made by VYATSKIEPOLYANY MACHINE BULDING PLANT(Molot). Plus I installed Magpul Magazine Assist & CrossTac Ambi Sling Connector (ASC) for AR-15 collapsible stock.

 

Pics of lubricated Vepr-12 after more then one year after Duracoat painting.

 

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freaking awesome!!!

 

does the railed dustcover some standard on the vepr?

All Molot Vepr-12 comes with non-removable railed dustcover and lower handguard as standard ! Like on this new Vepr-12 VPO-25-03 model with 300 mm barrel.

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If someone doesn't wont rails - it's an option made by special order in Molot plant for the extra cost.

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All that awesomeness and you put a twister puck in it?horror.gif

Actually I don't use twister puck, because IMHO it the useless stuff! I bought it as I believed to Go-Gun advertise that it cleans gas tube much better then the stock puck. I had to modified it to fit Vepr-12 due to Saiga have a little different bolt and puck without hole inside.

When all was done, I tested twister puck - and found that it is worth then standard Molot puck. I sent it to Molot plant for test and Molot guys said that this twister puck doesn't have any advantages to standard - only disadvantages. Now I have useless custom twister puck for Vepr-12what.gif

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How dows the left side safety piece attach to the main safety? A C-clip? A screw?

I hope this pics of my other Vepr-12 help you. No screw!

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Will the Vepr stock fit on a Saiga? Wanna sell it if it does?

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Sir,

 

You are my new best friend. Very nice looking gun. I like the two tone but like the digicam on the second one more.

 

Question for you. Having no gas plug to adjust, how does this system handle low brass/light loads (2 1/12 dram). Also, can you explain the purpose of the cut/slot near the front of the op rod?

 

Thanks

 

Oh how I long for my 030...

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Question for you. Having no gas plug to adjust, how does this system handle low brass/light loads (2 1/12 dram). Also, can you explain the purpose of the cut/slot near the front of the op rod?

 

Normally operates from 28 g and above.

 

Cut on the edge of the rod is made to ensure that they would remove the piston can be from the gas chamber. When the camera a lot of carbon to remove the piston can only be the case.

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Sir,

 

You are my new best friend. Very nice looking gun. I like the two tone but like the digicam on the second one more.

 

Question for you. Having no gas plug to adjust, how does this system handle low brass/light loads (2 1/12 dram). Also, can you explain the purpose of the cut/slot near the front of the op rod?

 

Thanks

 

Oh how I long for my 030...

 

Thanks!

 

Sergii've answered your questions, thanks him also. Maybe you'll wait a little bit and buy Vepr-12 instead of Saiga-12-030 - as I know, good guys from this forum are going to import to US a lot of Vepr-12 and sertifing them in US now!

 

Very, very nice avatar ;)

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PapaZorro or Sergii,

 

Can you please explain what make the Molot better than the Izzy? Better attention to detail, workmanship, design...?

 

On that photo of the version Molot plans to import, I think they will have to change the rail under the front gas block as that is now "evil". Is the rear of the receiver angled like that or is that just the wood stock covering some of the metal up? By the way, I'd be smiling just like the guy in the photo if I could get my hands on one too;-)

 

Thanks to both of you for your insight from abroad.

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PapaZorro or Sergii,

 

Can you please explain what make the Molot better than the Izzy? Better attention to detail, workmanship, design...?

 

On that photo of the version Molot plans to import, I think they will have to change the rail under the front gas block as that is now "evil". Is the rear of the receiver angled like that or is that just the wood stock covering some of the metal up? By the way, I'd be smiling just like the guy in the photo if I could get my hands on one too;-)

 

Thanks to both of you for your insight from abroad.

 

In Molot higher overall quality of manufacture. Machining of parts, assembly, etc. Smaller percentage of defects.

 

Rear corner of the receiver the same as the Molot with a rifled barrel.

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Instead of a wooden butt and you can put an adapter on a Magpul.

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Molot weighs a little more Saiga. It has thicker walls receiver.

Molot is in the same factory which produces the Kalashnikov machine gun.

Saiga is made in the same factory which produces AK

 

 

By the way, I'd be smiling just like the guy in the photo if I could get my hands on one too;-).

Thanks to both of you for your insight from abroad.

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Sorry for bad English.

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PapaZorro or Sergii,

 

Can you please explain what make the Molot better than the Izzy? Better attention to detail, workmanship, design...?

 

On that photo of the version Molot plans to import, I think they will have to change the rail under the front gas block as that is now "evil". Is the rear of the receiver angled like that or is that just the wood stock covering some of the metal up? By the way, I'd be smiling just like the guy in the photo if I could get my hands on one too;-)

 

Thanks to both of you for your insight from abroad.

 

Sergii, again, mostly answered your question.

 

From me I'll add shortly: Molot has better quality in whole and better barrels in particuarly.

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Thanks guys.

 

So is it just the exported models that have the angled rear receiver? I do not see yours having the angle like the version you say will be imported into the USA. That would really limit the amount of stocks you could use.

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Maybe you'll wait a little bit and buy Vepr-12 instead of Saiga-12-030 - as I know, good guys from this forum are going to import to US a lot of Vepr-12 and sertifing them in US now!

 

 

Please elaborate, also how do you know this??

 

big-J, I asked WPA in their WTS section and they mentioned working with Molot to get the Vepr 12 into importable configuration. Not as much detail as is here but sounds like it is in the works. I'll have my CC ready.

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Maybe you'll wait a little bit and buy Vepr-12 instead of Saiga-12-030 - as I know, good guys from this forum are going to import to US a lot of Vepr-12 and sertifing them in US now!

 

 

Please elaborate, also how do you know this??

 

This information is from a representative of the factory Molot.

He said this to me at Armory Show in Moscow October 16, 2011

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Maybe you'll wait a little bit and buy Vepr-12 instead of Saiga-12-030 - as I know, good guys from this forum are going to import to US a lot of Vepr-12 and sertifing them in US now!

 

 

Please elaborate, also how do you know this??

As Sergii I talked with Molot guys at Armory Show in Moscow this October

 

 

 

Maybe you'll wait a little bit and buy Vepr-12 instead of Saiga-12-030 - as I know, good guys from this forum are going to import to US a lot of Vepr-12 and sertifing them in US now!

 

 

Please elaborate, also how do you know this??

 

big-J, I asked WPA in their WTS section and they mentioned working with Molot to get the Vepr 12 into importable configuration. Not as much detail as is here but sounds like it is in the works. I'll have my CC ready.

 

Molot will not be import Verps to US, it will do exclusively by a new partner of Molot (American Company)!

As I understood this company will decides what models of Veprs to import to US as well they will certify these models in US.

 

 

 

So is it just the exported models that have the angled rear receiver? I do not see yours having the angle like the version you say will be imported into the USA. That would really limit the amount of stocks you could use.

 

As I wrote above, it absolutely depends on US importer, what I've heard, that several different Vepr-12 were sent to US for certification (all of them with angled rear receiver (New model of Vepr-12 VPO-205-04 pictured by Sergii) or with normal rear receiver like standard Vepr-12 I don't know).

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Papa and Sergii,

 

Thanks again for all your insight. Very interesting and exciting news. I really hope the imports do not have the angled receiver. The other hope is that the new importer will be able to keep the supply of Russian magwell mags up to a decent level.

 

 

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