Sergii 142 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 That is a nice-looking gun, Sergii. Any estimate on the price point? In Russia, the prices are as follows: The cheapest Saiga-12 (as in the U.S.) - $ 650 These are not popular in Russia, no one is buying. Normal Saiga-12 is - $ 700-1300. The price depends on the model of weapon. Vepr-12 - $ 930-1100 What are the prices at Vepr-12 will be in the U.S. do not know. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2ndAmendican 23 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 I want one so bad that my balls hurt!!!!!!!!! That is one sweet weapon!!!! So if it's around $1100.00 +/- a few $$$$, and you can get mags for it (by the time they start selling the shotgun), I am so in for one!!!!!!! What are the current mag capacity choices in Russia? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sergii 142 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 I understand the RPK receivers are made for the heavier barrels, but what good is that for a Shotgun? When you say better manufacture can you explain more? Are you saying they have better quality control then the Saigas? I think if they are making them for a commercial market her in the US that level of care might diminish. With the different gas system, is there any issues with using the cheap loads people love to run in there Saiga 12s? Higher quality machining, assembly, painting. The quality and the same for Russia and the United States. Vepr-12 with a barrel length of 430mm is guaranteed to shoot 32 gram charges. With the barrel 520-680mm - guaranteed to shoot charge of 28 grams. In Russia, the IPSC Vepr-12 replaces the Saiga-12. Most of the shoots of Vepr. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sergii 142 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) So if it's around $1100.00 +/- a few $$$$, and you can get mags for it (by the time they start selling the shotgun), I am so in for one!!!!! This is the price in Russia. What price will Vepr in the U.S. i do not know. In the U.S., will be a little gun "castrated." What are the current mag capacity choices in Russia? Mag 8x - $ 43-45 Mag 4x - $ 50 I want one so bad that my balls hurt!!!!!!!!! That is one sweet weapon!!!! Move to live in Russia. Buy yourself Vepr-12 :D Edited November 5, 2011 by Sergii 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Mag 8x - $ 43-45 Mag 4x - $ 50 How come the 8rounders are cheaper than the 4 rounders Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sergii 142 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 How come the 8rounders are cheaper than the 4 rounders 4x recently began to sell. Probably a great demand, so the price is high. Russia... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaZorro 401 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Mag 8x - $ 43-45 Mag 4x - $ 50 How come the 8rounders are cheaper than the 4 rounders Molot Mag 4x as well as Mag 2x are made from Molots Mag 8x by simply cutting off some "extra" light, so buyer should pay for hand made extra charge . For Molot It's cheaper to "cut off" then make special press-form for 4x & 2x Mags, not is a great demand mentioned by Sergii. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Molot Mag 4x as well as Mag 2x are made from Molots Mag 8x by simply cutting off some "extra" light, so buyer should pay for hand made extra charge . For Molot It's cheaper to "cut off" then make special press-form for 4x & 2x Mags, not is a great demand mentioned by Sergii. Gotcha, thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wobbly 3 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Lots of talk about how good the VEPR is, but has anyone shot one ? A friend of mine and his son, both have a Saiga 12 and VEPR, and have to say the VEPR are a real heavy gun, with much more recoil than the Saiga. Better made, maybe, but one of the VEPR's they own is back in Germany where it was supplied, because of FTE. I will stick with my S12. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wobbly 3 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Thought you might like to see the guns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sergii 142 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Lots of talk about how good the VEPR is, but has anyone shot one ? A friend of mine and his son, both have a Saiga 12 and VEPR, and have to say the VEPR are a real heavy gun, with much more recoil than the Saiga. Better made, maybe, but one of the VEPR's they own is back in Germany where it was supplied, because of FTE. I will stick with my S12. " Lots of talk about how good the VEPR is, but has anyone shot one ?" I have two Vepr-12. My friends have a Saiga-12. I have the opportunity to compare these two rifles. "A friend of mine and his son, both have a Saiga 12 and VEPR, and have to say the VEPR are a real heavy gun, with much more recoil than the Saiga." How can the recoil to be more, if the weight of a gun anymore??? "Thought you might like to see the guns" On the left side is Vepr-12. Why he has such a long barrel? Muzzle brake is installed incorrectly. Vepr-12 purchased from Dirk Frey? http://www.planet-of-gun.de/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaZorro 401 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Lots of talk about how good the VEPR is, but has anyone shot one ? A friend of mine and his son, both have a Saiga 12 and VEPR, and have to say the VEPR are a real heavy gun, with much more recoil than the Saiga. Better made, maybe, but one of the VEPR's they own is back in Germany where it was supplied, because of FTE. I will stick with my S12. " Lots of talk about how good the VEPR is, but has anyone shot one ?" I have two Vepr-12. My friends have a Saiga-12. I have the opportunity to compare these two rifles. "A friend of mine and his son, both have a Saiga 12 and VEPR, and have to say the VEPR are a real heavy gun, with much more recoil than the Saiga." How can the recoil to be more, if the weight of a gun anymore??? "Thought you might like to see the guns" On the left side is Vepr-12. Why he has such a long barrel? Muzzle brake is installed incorrectly. Vepr-12 purchased from Dirk Frey? http://www.planet-of-gun.de/ Sorry Sergii but this Maxrounds Muzzle brake installed corectly, as recommended by Maxround! Anyway, Vepr-12 VPO205-02 on the picture doesn't have thread in the barrel originally (it has internal thread & it's interesting how they fix Maxround brake to this barrel) plus Maxround isn't an effective Muzzle brake either. Pic from Maxround Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wobbly 3 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 On the left side is Vepr-12. Why he has such a long barrel? All shotguns in UK have a 24" minimum barrel length Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sergii 142 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Lots of talk about how good the VEPR is, but has anyone shot one ? A friend of mine and his son, both have a Saiga 12 and VEPR, and have to say the VEPR are a real heavy gun, with much more recoil than the Saiga. Better made, maybe, but one of the VEPR's they own is back in Germany where it was supplied, because of FTE. I will stick with my S12. " Lots of talk about how good the VEPR is, but has anyone shot one ?" I have two Vepr-12. My friends have a Saiga-12. I have the opportunity to compare these two rifles. "A friend of mine and his son, both have a Saiga 12 and VEPR, and have to say the VEPR are a real heavy gun, with much more recoil than the Saiga." How can the recoil to be more, if the weight of a gun anymore??? "Thought you might like to see the guns" On the left side is Vepr-12. Why he has such a long barrel? Muzzle brake is installed incorrectly. Vepr-12 purchased from Dirk Frey? http://www.planet-of-gun.de/ Sorry Sergii but this Maxrounds Muzzle brake installed corectly, as recommended by Maxround! Anyway, Vepr-12 VPO205-02 on the picture doesn't have thread in the barrel originally (it has internal thread & it's interesting how they fix Maxround brake to this barrel) plus Maxround isn't an effective Muzzle brake either. Pic from Maxround Look at the window size and configuration. To compare. Photo from official site Maxround. In general, you're right. At the Vepr-12 is set so that's a muzzle brake. And it really is installed correctly: But the photo of the site Dirk Frey. Muzzle brake is installed on the other: In general, this muzzle brake does not reduce the recoil. The gases are directed along a different path. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doodi1 23 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I want the MOLOT, but if they slant cut the back of the frame like in some of the pictures, I will not buy it. I want to be able to put a folding stock on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Thought you might like to see the guns. The "metal" posts kind of detract from your otherwise natural looking fence. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) I want the MOLOT, but if they slant cut the back of the frame like in some of the pictures, I will not buy it. I want to be able to put a folding stock on it. It will not be a problem. Edited November 20, 2011 by SCHULTZE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FlameRed 4 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 May I inquire to what drum is pictured here? Is it available in the US? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sergii 142 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 May I inquire to what drum is pictured here? Is it available in the US? This Maxround: http://www.maxrounds.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fitty% 808 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 So....does that muzzle break work or what? If it does I want one seeing as I only have one arm...I need all the help I can get lol. I went to the site but when I went to buy it I couldn't check out...or at least didn't see a way to once it was in the shopping cart and I picked the shipping time. After that...nothing. Answers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Ak-47 49 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) Atlantic Arms hinted that they are hoping for an end of the year arrival. Edited July 7, 2012 by Lord Ak-47 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alternety 7 Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 This may be a dumb question, but what about getting parts to make it legal in the US? Will this have to be done like the Saiga? Are/will there be parts available? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Maxround drum? Is the Promag drum or MD Arms drum not available in Europe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) So....does that muzzle break work or what? If it does I want one seeing as I only have one arm...I need all the help I can get lol. I went to the site but when I went to buy it I couldn't check out...or at least didn't see a way to once it was in the shopping cart and I picked the shipping time. After that...nothing. Answers? You see them come up for sale on the ak forum from time to time. Maxround drum? Is the Promag drum or MD Arms drum not available in Europe? Only if one of us ship it to them. MD Arms and others dont export to drums to people across the water. Edited July 19, 2012 by madmax4x4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I vant a VEPR to take apart and examine. I'm not really interested in how good it is. I just want to make it better 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) I vant a VEPR to take apart and examine. I'm not really interested in how good it is. I just want to make it better Closest you're gonna get right now. enjoy, courtesy of papa zorro http://papazorro.blo...om-edition.html http://papazorro.blo...roject-how.html Edited July 20, 2012 by AZG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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