Z_Felix 23 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 And about 9x19 carbines, in Russia before this models were no any cuvilian pistol-carbines. We also waiting for them. What americans think about you 9x19 our cartridges ? And about other types of cartridges. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 In America, Saigas are going for about $400 for rifles. $650 for shotguns. Veprs are $600-$1000 for rifles depending on caliber. $1000 for shotguns. I like the 9mm cartridge. I built an AR-15 pistol in 9mm and I own 9mm handguns. I'm also a fan of .45 ACP caliber. But I don't see that one coming in Saiga or Vepr carbine. Lol! In Russia, companies that manufacture firearms have no competition so they can charge what they want in Russia. Correct? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 In America, Saigas are going for about $400 for rifles. $650 for shotguns. Veprs are $600-$1000 for rifles depending on caliber. $1000 for shotguns. I like the 9mm cartridge. I built an AR-15 pistol in 9mm and I own 9mm handguns. I'm also a fan of .45 ACP caliber. But I don't see that one coming in Saiga or Vepr carbine. Lol! In Russia, companies that manufacture firearms have no competition so they can charge what they want in Russia. Correct? yes, you are right. About .45, maybe in future they build something in 45, saiga-9x19 is the first rifle that will be selling in Russian in pistol callibers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 I would prefer us to get a version of the Vityaz. If the demand is there, our magazine manufacturers will make the large capacity magazines for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 our magazine manufacturers will make the large capacity magazines for it. we are waiting for them too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
filthygovemploye 64 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 http://czcustom.com/CZ-75-CZ-85-9mm-26-Rounds.aspx ask and you shall receive!!!! lets get this thing goin folks! all we gotta do is start doint like armor, and eventually russia will catch up... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 That sporter version definately looks importable... we may need some parts or furniture for a proper restoration though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 new photos will be soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 And export next year?!?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Company said that they first try to sell them in russian and after that they will think about export. It will be gun show in moscow on friday, i will ask them about export once again. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) Company said that they first try to sell them in russian and after that they will think about export. It will be gun show in moscow on friday, i will ask them about export once again. Which model? Maybe Arsenal or Legion will bring them in. Edited October 10, 2012 by dayofruin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supertex 242 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Company said that they first try to sell them in russian and after that they will think about export. It will be gun show in moscow on friday, i will ask them about export once again. Which model? Maybe Arsenal or Legion will bring them in. or RWC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I dont give a damn who brings it in, as long as we can get them. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hoping for the Vityaz. SGM could do the mags! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Company said that they first try to sell them in russian and after that they will think about export. It will be gun show in moscow on friday, i will ask them about export once again. What kind of gun show is this? Like shot show? Or like our gun gun shows with vendors? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) khm.... "gun gun shows with vendors" i think, no shoting at all in the center of moscow Company IZMASH. as for me, i'm waiting for Vityaz Maybe i didn't say, Vityaz bolt is free like in submachine guns, Vepr-9x19 as i know is gas-operated. Edited October 11, 2012 by Z_Felix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Shot show is a big gun show that licensed dealers and manufacturers only (I think) can go to. Manufacturers can display and debut products that will be hitting the market soon. I'd prefer the Vityaz blow back operated as well!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) My Vityaz clone is in testing stage. Edited October 18, 2012 by ARMOR 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) What Mags are you using? Pics? Edited October 19, 2012 by dayofruin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 What Mags are you using? Pics? Sorry, but I think I better wait on showing or sharing information about this weapon. It's something I've been designing/testing/making for Will for the last 2 years and I don't think he would want me giving out the details. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 What Mags are you using? Pics? Sorry, but I think I better wait on showing or sharing information about this weapon. It's something I've been designing/testing/making for Will for the last 2 years and I don't think he would want me giving out the details. Hopefully testing goes well! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 vepr 9x19, i made a mistake, vepr is also blowback vitaz 9x19 is ready, it is in certifications proces. I had it in may hands, it is very interesting carbine, a lot of people are waiting for it in Russia. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Sweet!!!!! Hopefully these will be imported! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
filthygovemploye 64 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Shot show is a big gun show that licensed dealers and manufacturers only (I think) can go to. Manufacturers can display and debut products that will be hitting the market soon. I'd prefer the Vityaz blow back operated as well!! industry trade show....no? hey felix, tell em to call it a shotgun, sell it with a smooth bore and an extra rifled barrel (in US, not russia, you guys cant have extra parts, right) and the idiots at ATF cant ban their import!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Maybe i didn't say, Vityaz bolt is free like in submachine guns, Vepr-9x19 as i know is gas-operated. Just to clarify, are you saying that the Vityaz fires from an open bolt? I hope thats not the case because then it could not be imported. Or are you just saying that it is blowback-operated, and fires from a closed-bolt? Important distinction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superhawk138 202 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Closed bolt blowback operated 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 they are(Vityaz and Vepar) fires from close bolt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 What Mags are you using? Pics? Sorry, but I think I better wait on showing or sharing information about this weapon. It's something I've been designing/testing/making for Will for the last 2 years and I don't think he would want me giving out the details. Hopefully testing goes well! Check out my new Avitar. It didn't come from Russia either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 What Mags are you using? Pics? Sorry, but I think I better wait on showing or sharing information about this weapon. It's something I've been designing/testing/making for Will for the last 2 years and I don't think he would want me giving out the details. Hopefully testing goes well! Check out my new Avitar. It didn't come from Russia either. Haha!!! Sweet!!! Details soon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatio 515 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 tease. i already want one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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