mancat 2,368 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Any updates on the Saiga-9 coming in? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Any updates on the Saiga-9 coming in? That's just stupid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Nobody in Russia can understand why izmash is not doing saiga-9 as quick is possible. For last information it should come to our weapon stores in april. You will be surprised but we still don't have civil guns in 5.45x39 in Russian, IZHMASH simply don't do it for us, all for USA's, americans buy everything and gives real $ I dont know how to describe in english what people are working on our weapon plants in management, they are so far from civil people and modern guns. "Stone Age in Age of laser rifles". For full understanding situation - situation is like company is still making casset players, when all other companys for a long time already making modern flash players, and the first company dont do anything for modernization, and thinking that everyrying is alright. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
filthygovemploye 64 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Nobody in Russia can understand why izmash is not doing saiga-9 as quick is possible. For last information it should come to our weapon stores in april. You will be surprised but we still don't have civil guns in 5.45x39 in Russian, IZHMASH simply don't do it for us, all for USA's, americans buy everything and gives real $ I dont know how to describe in english what people are working on our weapon plants in management, they are so far from civil people and modern guns. "Stone Age in Age of laser rifles". For full understanding situation - situation is like company is still making casset players, when all other companys for a long time already making modern flash players, and the first company dont do anything for modernization, and thinking that everyrying is alright. naw, i work for us gov, and its just a lack of caring and demorilization of troops.....they would love care, but they dont see results when they do. its easier to go with the grain than to be a rebel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Previous director of IZMASH(1996-2011) was arested, he have stolen 159 275 000$ from izmash while he was working on plant. It's putins russia, stoling money from country is normal for putins goverment. Director simply have not shared stolen money with "goverment", that's why was arested. Zimbabve, Sir! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I will be selling a 9mm prototype if anyone is interested? RJF is returning one of the pair to me. I'm pretty sure it will be the first one I made? If it is, it will be this one. I'll be gone for a week, but I'll list it on GunBroker after I get back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Le Hachoir 16 Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Wish I can afford when released, still need to get AK pistol! No money enough though. =( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Wish I could afford to right now. I bet when that gets listed it goes for pretty good amount! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatio 515 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 pm sent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Wish I could afford to right now. I bet when that gets listed it goes for pretty good amount! I concur. I am definitely interested, just couldn't afford what he would be asking....especially on gunbroker doubt he's willing to trade too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="AZG" data-cid="895047" data-time="1366923807"><p> <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="dayofruin" data-cid="893594" data-time="1366604315"><p>Wish I could afford to right now. I bet when that gets listed it goes for pretty good amount!</p></blockquote> I concur. I am definitely interested, just couldn't afford what he would be asking....especially on gunbroker <span rel='lightbox'><img src='http://forum.saiga-12.com//public/style_emoticons/default/wacko.png' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span> doubt he's willing to trade too. </p></blockquote> I've traded all my trading fodder for things I wouldn't trade. Lol! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Will sent me the second prototype and no the first one. It is being returned to him and is not for sale. Sorry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Vepr 9x19 had been released, but price for it in the Russian gunshop where it was found is about 1913$, hell and israel! http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410477.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410479.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410481.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410493.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410495.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410509.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410511.jpg http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410580.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410602.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410604.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410624.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410626.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410640.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410642.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410646.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/007410/7410648.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Interesting - and looks like it's actually gas operated, not blowback, but I could be wrong. Typically the blowback-only AKs have only a gas piston stub, not a full piston. Glock mags? Personally I would prefer MP5 mags if I was buying one, but I don't own a Glock, so.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) metal glock mags? thats wild!! i think it would look cooler and possibly more functional with hk mags, but the y have a different lock up... Vepr 9x19 had been released, but price for it in the Russian gunshop where it was found is about 1913$, hell and israel! Edited June 18, 2013 by saltydecimator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) I can't find positive info on the real Vityaz, but the Vityaz magazines look identical to MP5 mags. The locking points are even in the same location. I suspect that the two are compatible, or if not, very close. Another reason why a Vityaz would be great.. MP5 mags are pretty easy to come by, and cheaper than hi-cap Glock mags. Edited June 19, 2013 by mancat 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 There are no good news, IZMASH now is not doing any civilian guns, and when it will start doing it nobody knows. An other plant started to sell real AK-47/AKM carbines in Russia, without auto-fire ofcourse. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 That looks like it came from Molot. The pistol grip and handguard especially and the swelled trunnion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) There is no more "IZMASH", it was renamed to "Kalashnicov", but plant now is mostly dead then alive. Saiga's are not making about a year. "Molot" custom workshop started to do some carbines, but i think there are no a lot of them will be done. http://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/008050/8050487.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/008050/8050489.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/008050/8050491.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/008050/8050493.jpghttp://forum.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/008050/8050495.jpg Edited October 1, 2013 by Z_Felix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) I'm working on a more compact Vityaz style weapon now. A "K" model of the MASTER FLG. http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76054 Edited November 19, 2013 by ARMOR 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) If anyone has a gas block thread protector from a PAP92/85, would you send me a P.M. I need one for my mockup. Edited November 19, 2013 by ARMOR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 A few more parts came yesterday. Looks like the SP89 barrel 11C ABN sent me will fit a Romy AK47 front trunnion perfectly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) I'm working on a deal with to produce a Vityaz, but we have to 3D autocad some of the parts for cnc and I need a investor.If I forget to post here, I also have a thread on GUNCO.http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76054 Edited November 26, 2013 by ARMOR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 izhmash is dead, but some saigas were sold 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantic Firearms.com 170 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Do you have any closes ups of the bolt & bolt face ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z_Felix 23 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 No, it not my carbine. But its shure one metall thing, not two like in saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Picture 3 shows most of it. It looks to be blowback only. Looks like they made an all machined bolt carrier and milled the bolt face into it. That is a fairly easy gun to build. The "piston" is merely a weight and guide for the bolt. The receiver is shortened at the front since there is no trunion, other than to hold the barrel and a bullet guide. The one in the photo has a "safety sear" (auto sear here) as it has a third pin but no auto position. I don't know why someone is not already making something like this here.. Atlantic, if you make one I'd probably buy it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantic Firearms.com 170 Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 We are working on 2 diffrent designs now for the 9 mm AK format in a pistol and rifle configuraiton hopefully we will see some progress on this just tyring to gater as much input and info as possible before starting on the proto type phase of things. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 We are working on 2 diffrent designs now for the 9 mm AK format in a pistol and rifle configuraiton hopefully we will see some progress on this just tyring to gater as much input and info as possible before starting on the proto type phase of things. Are you guys trying to build off the prototype from the guy off AKfiles? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 We are working on 2 diffrent designs now for the 9 mm AK format in a pistol and rifle configuraiton hopefully we will see some progress on this just tyring to gater as much input and info as possible before starting on the proto type phase of things. yes please come in under a grand..... magazines type should be glock so we could use the 50 round drums Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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